Star Wars The Bad Batch Batch 301 302 and 303 Podcast

[00:00:00] This is the Bad Batch Podcast on TV Podcast Industries. We're back for Season 3 of the Bad Batch, Episodes 1, 2 and 3.

[00:00:08] There is no we. And there is no escape. I've already tried.

[00:00:16] Every stronghold has a weak point. Maybe I can convince Emory to help. She's one of us.

[00:00:22] Not every clone is your ally. You trust too easily.

[00:01:21] plop plop. Because you know he was going to say something worse.

[00:01:25] He was.

[00:01:26] He was.

[00:01:27] That just covers up what he really said.

[00:01:28] Yeah, well that's true.

[00:01:30] Good stuff.

[00:01:31] But yes, we're back with the Bad Batch for the final season of this animated show from

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[00:01:36] Nice to be back in the galaxy far, far away once again.

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[00:04:26] That's a good one. The shuttle crashes, but as it's outside the secure boundary of the Imperial Facility and the troopers aboard are left to the planet's wild and dangerous creatures. Separated from the rest of the Bad Batch, Amiga is being held at Dr Hemlock's lab on Mount Antis. Every day she works with Dr Emery Carr to take blood from the clones and herself for

[00:05:42] analysis by the Kaminoan Cloner Narasai, who is working on a mysterious project. time it is but I think captures nicely the I guess the awfulness of being in an imperial facility because it's kind of like you know is she a prisoner isn't she is she a hostage isn't she they think she's not she certainly thinks that she is and she is she's locked in her cell but it's just like yet poo. It is. It's almost like it's one too many. It's just to keep everyone off guard. It's just the one sharp by the strong people that just goes wildly to the left. Yeah.

[00:08:20] It's poo, poo, poo.

[00:08:21] Cross those shaky hands just getting an extra one off I guess.

[00:08:25] Exactly, exactly. almost rubbing his hands with expecting no recovery team for you guys. But yeah, it's kind of it's interesting. The fact that I realized that this planet was called Wayland and it's like Wayland Yutani, like from Alien. Exactly.

[00:09:40] And I'm like, OK, and there's all these monsters out there.

[00:09:43] And there is actually another the next episode.

[00:10:45] as they're attacked by some kind of unknown creature. So, like ultimately, yes, it's a fairly inhospitable world.

[00:10:51] It seems out of this kind of secure boundary

[00:10:54] that they have the facility in.

[00:10:57] Yeah, yeah.

[00:10:58] We kind of see the native creatures later on

[00:11:00] in the episode as well.

[00:11:01] So they aren't very friendly unless treated really,

[00:11:04] really well.

[00:11:05] The Lurkerhounds.

[00:11:06] Yeah, I guess you to see where this goes. And then it just cuts straight back into the main story. And I'm like, interesting. Yeah. Well, absolutely. And it's really straight in. And I have to say really great animation and scene,

[00:12:22] just to remind you of how good the animation is.

[00:12:25] Yes.

[00:12:26] The moment where that Imperial shuttle, That's how the last season ended. They were going to go out on their mission to do them. There's four people on the ship which you would suspect is Wrecker, Hunter, Rex maybe and Echo. It would be the four that you'd suspect that are coming here. So the fact that you have them with voices that would sound very similar, of course, to the batch because they all have similar voices, right? So the fact that you would have that, you'd

[00:13:41] have them thinking that they're going to get past the security to get onto Tantus and save So, every day is exactly the same for Amiga. Yeah. Eat, sleep, rave, repeat. Well. But less raving, I guess. Eat, sleep, take blood samples. Samples. Deliver blood sample, have blood sample destroyed. Repeat. Yeah, it's not as great a fat boy slim kind of track. It's not. I had every day is exactly the same.

[00:15:01] The Nanny's nails track in my head the whole time.

[00:15:03] Yeah, exactly.

[00:15:04] It's more that style. But yes, we is going on when she's in the presence of Nala Se. She's upbeat about the plan that she's explaining to cross her or she wants to plan and escape. I'd say she's This is where Lego does a set of Omega's cells with Stormtrooper stamping on her doll. It's Lego for kids, you know, from this episode. It is really dark. I'd agree with you guys.

[00:17:40] The overall tone, it's like we're like, oh, okay, I think this, this is potentially what they're doing. They're not just scooby doing icing it. It's just like, oh, it was the guy down the road. Ha ha. There's a lot more there that we can take from it. And when, for me, this was, it was really sort of low at the end of season two, though, certainly with tech being lost. But you know, as well, it does remind me, you know, is this the kind of research that you did on Camino? And she's like, you know, it's not like that. It's nothing like that. But we did on Camino.

[00:21:40] Exactly.

[00:21:41] And she goes, the specimens aren't clones.

[00:21:45] Yes. What's your C levels in your blood? Yeah. What's your mcount in the blood? Yeah.

[00:23:00] Excellent. Perfect. Yeah. I know. Great little way of getting rid of metachlorians.

[00:23:05] Exactly. this episode is written, it's pulled away pretty quickly because effectively the guy who's supposed to be minding there, the droid that's supposed to be minding the creatures while she's away, has decided that he's going to kill it because he feels that it's developing an emotional attachment which won't be useful to the Empire so he's going to kill it, you know. Again,

[00:24:21] it's another one of those things about this episode which is increasing the depression that

[00:25:26] celebratory ending with on a plan to be walks. Yeah, I get the feeling that's what they're doing. They they're the the first three episodes are going to be that very somber, very depressing

[00:25:38] kind of style to basically go, you are about to hit the lowest of the low. So we can bring you to

[00:25:44] the highest of the highs at the end of this season.

[00:26:47] batcher and she's being told that she can't have any other attachments. She can't have an attachment to any personal items. This has to be taken away from her. So she's being

[00:26:52] left on her own potentially here months and has not had any contact with any member of

[00:26:58] the batch other than Crosshair who's been telling rest of that but it's a nice little touch that it looks very like the one to do something with midichlorians. I'm going with she into the Emperor's plan. Exactly. And we will talk about this much more because we obviously have seen the other two episodes, I don't want to spoil the other two if you haven't seen those episodes yet, fellow bachelors. So let's hold off on the M count discussion until we get into one of the two other episodes. Absolutely. We're going to talk about it. Yeah. Any final points on this episode or overall what did you think of it?

[00:31:01] Overall, I really enjoyed this. Like for me, whether it's the doll making, If you watch this episode and you're, you know, maybe six or seven years old and you've been watching the colourful, shiny show about the Bad Batch, you might want to turn it off right here and not watch the rest of the season because it might be a bit too depressing for you. So, they're setting out their stall right here because they resisted the urge to do anything

[00:33:43] that they've done in previous episodes that have been dark. You don't have any moment here with Crosshair's hand is shaking. It's like, what is that about? That doesn't sound great given he's having blood taken on a daily basis. And just this notion of what's down in the vaults, it does feel kind of like Hamahara-esque in that sense. What is going on down there?

[00:35:04] What are the experiments that Dr. Hamlock's doing? Absolutely. Well, That's the first question of our Cantina quiz questions. Two more to come in this podcast and one every week for the 15 episodes of The Bad Batch. Gather all the answers together and email us to feedback at TV Podcast Industries dot com with all the correct answers and you can be able to chance of getting your hands on some bad batch goodies. That is also the place you can email us with your thoughts about any of the episodes

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[00:36:25] slash TV podcast industries. We are going to take a break and we'll be back in a moment episode two, Paths Unknown. I am one of your bad batching hosts, John. I'm still one of your hosts, Derek. And roundly as the group, I am the epitome of what Racker talked about as defective, but effective. I am Chris. I was thinking that would be the sort of the tagline for Wallace from Wallace and Gromis.

[00:37:42] I produce, you know, inventions that are kind of defective but end off working. that will lead them to the missing Omega. But when they follow the provided coordinates they find an abandoned laboratory and fear the worst for Omega. They also encounter three young regular clones Mox, Deek and Stack who have been left to survive on their own after the Empire abandoned and destroyed the

[00:39:00] facility. Hunter and Rekka work together with the young clone Deek to try and Yeah, I think so. I think we can safely say they're going to go to Pabu here. And rightly so. Absolutely. A sort of gorgeous island retreat for them to recover from, I guess, being prisoners for however long.

[00:40:21] Plus trying to survive on the planet on their own. the alien nightmare. Yes, yeah, yeah. Season 1. I was, I think the connection is really cool and cool that they would do that and just bring that in. So I think that's really cool, but it's just like, kind of like, okay, this is really like, it's just unexpected, I think. And so you kind of try to figure out what's going on and then yet you remember, you know, season one. And I mean,

[00:44:21] equally what we will find is, you know, the member of the Pike Syndicate that took his horn was actually the leader of the Pike Syndicate on that planet back in that episode. The episode ended with him effectively being disgraced

[00:45:40] but being given Omega's kind of pet lizard beforehand. Even though she's saying that, Roland's saying to them, I hope you do achieve your goal, I hope you find Omega because Omega was the service of the Empire. And I'm like, is that like could one of them, and it doesn't go into any of that, but literally in relation to the last point, are three of those mocks, deke or stack.

[00:48:23] And so it's like, there's a real nice little touch,

[00:48:25] even though it might not be specific going to be a load of them. I get the sense that this is a second laboratory that we've that kind of being talked about obviously outside of the one on Mount Tantus. I get the feeling that there's going to be a fair few and in different Well that's it I mean even this you know the clones these three young clones are alone they have no trust either in the big red button. You mean this big shiny red button right here? Absolutely. I'm gonna press that button. You're gonna do this, I mean, now that you've said it, it's going to happen. It is predestination. Absolutely, yep, we're there today. If it wasn't gonna be Hunter, right? It has to be record ownership.

[00:52:20] Definitely, yeah, no, I really like that.

[00:52:23] But I mean, even just seeing these two on their own to find where, which way to go, where to, where to get to, to anywhere. So you see him here finding the clones, knowing that there's, that he's being watched at all times. It's this heightened sense that he has almost that comes out before the clones engage or the red clones engage, let's say. Absolutely. And some other nice touches here though, from, from the casting, which I really like.

[00:53:44] Two of the clones, Mox and Deke are played by Daniel Logan, who played

[00:54:45] evil yeah yeah okay yeah but is redeemed very quickly yeah yes with it with literally within the 90 minutes he's redeemed yeah yes it's a superhero movie

[00:54:51] you have to do that and if you haven't seen hunt for the

[00:54:53] world of people a really really good movie a great that's that that was a big

[00:54:57] introduction to the world so yeah yeah highly recommend seeing that so so great

[00:55:02] to have him here in the Star and save and be be alive or you could put yourself in massive danger where you know there's a risk of you dying so I can kind of see why they would think like that but but Deke's difference Deke seems to be more

[00:56:21] of that clone trooper braveness inside him. Well it fact, I like the fact that we do go back to Mox and Stack as the other three go into the belly of this facility. And you see them discussing about hotwiring the marauder and getting off planet and leaving them behind because they're not

[00:57:40] going to survive that facility. Which to be honest, they're not half wrong either.

[00:58:51] that other aspect to Rekka, Hunter and then Deke going into the facility to this console. The other part of it that I really liked was just the upside down gunk choice that Rekka

[00:58:57] was carrying.

[00:58:58] Absolutely.

[00:58:59] We need a pair of shirts.

[00:59:00] I got exactly the one.

[00:59:01] Gunky.

[00:59:02] Yeah, and the gunkies.

[00:59:03] It was just the ultimate disrespect for Gunky.

[00:59:05] It was a lot of them, wasn't it? then when you cut off parts of a body it grows independent and grows sentience in life I was like oh this is just it's cool mutation I just want to see that live-action that's the one where I'm like you're adding horror level stuff

[01:00:23] into this Star Wars universe we when it's not there, I'm like, oh maybe this is a different one on the same planet. Nope. Oh, okay. And then getting to, even to the end, I was like, oh, it kind of felt Monster of the Week-ish. Yeah.

[01:01:40] And I'm like, okay, we've had those in season two and they're still good.

[01:01:45] And like, same again.

[01:01:47] This is still good. a walking Salak pit or I think I had in my notes, I called it the vine mother, you know, or the vine queen. And I was like, you know, get your hands off my bad batch, you batch. You know, I just kind of like, this is really like good stuff. I did like it. I mean, I

[01:03:01] liked the fact that it was indestructible with one thermal detonator and they had to and then takes over. Well, now that Disney also owned the rights to all of the alien movies as well as the Star Wars movies, that's how you get your crossover, isn't it? I guess so. Aliens versus Imperials. That'd be hilarious. I actually would see that. Totally. We saw two aliens versus predators crap movies.

[01:04:22] We can definitely see an alien movie set at Star Wars.

[01:04:24] I like the first one.

[01:04:25] No, you liked the second one andie of even with the three young regular clones, you've got Rekka having a good old laugh and a bit of banter with them. And I also guys said they've taken the boys to Pabu and I'm kind of wondering if they're kind of collecting allies in Pabu. Well, yeah. If we'll get this kind of the final push from the batch at the end is

[01:08:04] Unfortunately, I do think that means we're going to lose another couple of members of the Bad Batch by the end of the season.

[01:08:06] Oh, God, yes.

[01:08:07] Since we haven't seen any in live action.

[01:08:09] Well, we've seen one in live action.

[01:08:11] But we know a few do survive from some of the other shows.

[01:08:15] I hope some of them do, for sure.

[01:08:18] But with that, any final thoughts?

[01:08:20] For myself, I enjoyed this.

[01:08:22] I said Second Watch was a lot better for me. on one side and we don't see Omega because we had seen the other side of it last episode, maybe. But I did find this a much more exciting episode, of course, than the first episode, a really interesting episode. But there is sadness in this episode, John, you mentioned just that focus on the space that's left behind, the unoccupied space

[01:09:41] from Omega to kind of tie you back into we see with other members of the Bad Batch, with Rex and so on, and how give this four upside down gonkeys out of five. Fantastic. Let's go to the Cantina for a quick drink. Definitely, need it. Maybe a sprig of slither vine in our blue milk with some gin

[01:12:21] as well. But yes, fellow quizzes, fellow bachelors, welcome back at the end of the season to feedback at TVPodcastIndustries.com and you could be able to chance of getting your hands on some Bad Batch goodies. Yes, good stuff fellow Batchers. Yeah, we're just taking a quick break and then we'll be back with Bad Batch season three, episode three, Shadows of Tantus.

[01:13:42] Don't touch that fine.

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[01:15:04] Yes, we're the official talk about Star Wars The Bad Batch. Keep an eye on our feeds for all those other goodies because it is there. But gentlemen let's dive straight into episode three of The Bad Batch season three Shadows of Tantis. Derek do you want to tell us who gave us what with this episode? Absolutely the

[01:16:24] director of this episode of Stuart Lee. This episode was written by Matt with analysing the latest set of clone bloods that includes one of Amiga's samples. With everyone preoccupied, Amiga borrows Nala Saya's datapad and uses it as you get to this third episode, I wonder whether you could have intersp It's a royal visit, a visit from the Emperor. Yes finally a proper connection

[01:20:22] to Palpatine's mission. This seen it in pretty much all the live action shows, this plan building out.

[01:21:40] And here we're seeing it, of course, in a show around the clones.

[01:21:44] You're going to see the starting of this project, you know, as his sister. I don't know, she is his sister, isn't he? His daughter? Ray's his granddaughter. Oh, granddaughter, yeah, exactly. But effectively the explanation is that potentially one of the clones that were cloned off the Emperor

[01:23:03] had a daughter and that's Ray. That's the explanation.

[01:23:06] Yeah, exactly. be the missing key to unlocking this ability to create a clone that can be the receptacle for the Emperor when he dies. In Obi-Wan we saw that they were already storing multiple force users to experiment on them to see if they provide the missing key. So we have all that and here most likely we're seeing

[01:24:23] the first potentially force user or a person with a high M count. Let's call it essentially one car to Esposito figuring out Grogu that's the key so it's still happening the services are still going on but then essentially we get to probably a point where it's all viable that they're just missing that Grogu

[01:25:41] link if you want to call it the mcount link so it sounds like it's pretty like a High Republic film or slash TV show which is like all the way in the back in the back in the day. They talk of an Old Republic show as well and then we're obviously getting Andor season two and then the Acolyte and Skeleton crew. I don't even know where the Acolytes way in the past. Yes it is. And then the

[01:27:02] Skeleton crew I think is around the same time as Mandalorian but I don't know whether they've been able to clone Palpatine or not, whether it's just a standard clone and the clone obviously doesn't have the force powers, which is what he wants to be able to continue his legacy. That's the big leap that they need to make. And it could be that he's trying to create multiple vessels that are all, that all have his force powers, which is why he needs this high M count in each receptacle. That's why

[01:28:23] he's trying to gather together all of the dead Jedi, as we saw in Obi-Wan, he's very keen that the facility is both hidden and secure, you know, he says it's imperative that we keep this, you know, hush, hush, because, you know, the work that is being done here by Hemlock would be seen as an abomination, even by people, you know, all that, you know, sharing of ideas. And I won't say ideation and that happens. And, you know, that kind of stuff. So I think it's all kind of, yeah, exactly. It's really connected. It harks back iconic, along with Vader, absolutely. Yeah, but I think Ian McDermott was just being interviewed quite recently by Empire Magazine about the 25th anniversary of Phantom Menace, and he came up with this great quote that he realises now, looking back on all the years, that it's the Emperor that's the trigger for

[01:32:20] everything.

[01:32:21] Yes, of course Darth Vader is iconic.

[01:32:24] Get that.

[01:32:25] But without the Emperor, there would be no Vader. with a little help from Nala say yeah absolutely and I actually quite like how this all starts off as though It's the day-to-day like we saw in episode one actually of this season and except you know an Omega Sees that there's more troops around and we you know she's told that there is

[01:33:42] You know a special guest arriving yeah, and I kind of like that feel and

[01:34:42] So I love the fact that it's all stacked against them. It's all being winged, really.

[01:34:45] And I kind of like that sort of

[01:34:50] almost accidental nature of this escape.

[01:34:53] And because it is, yes, you can plan, but you have to then take that opportunity.

[01:34:58] And in some ways, Omega has planned in the sense she knows

[01:35:03] that she needs to escape and she certainly wants to take cross her.

[01:35:07] Yes. Yeah, and she was she's had to adapt because it is literally Nala Sei saying, you know, if they take your sample and analyze it, you're in danger, you need to get goes the same. And that's why this for me is pure batch. Without it. It's just it is what this show is. It's like skin your teeth thinking off cuff of your pants.

[01:37:43] Everything's fun.

[01:37:44] Absolutely.

[01:37:45] But I do totally put this on Alice A. Like.

[01:37:48] Oh yeah. special guests, maybe they're not being told. So gossips going around, you know, it's almost like they're distracted by the additional work and security that they have to do. And I'm just saying, you know, stormtroopers seem easily distracted. They don't have a great shot. So it's kind of like, whilst the attention is focused

[01:39:00] on something, you know, they're doing guards of honor.

[01:39:03] Like how many troops are out there as the shuttle arrives?

[01:39:05] So they're not Django something else.

[01:40:21] Or maybe is Django but with just different.

[01:40:25] No, she's still a clone like.

[01:40:28] Like the batch.

[01:41:28] So, like, she's looking out for the interests of Amiga, yet, you know, she will try and stun her.

[01:41:29] And so, it's difficult to know really, you know, she gives her the doll, yet she taketh

[01:41:34] away the doll or will allow, you know, them to rifle through her bunk area.

[01:41:42] So who knows? you feel. So it does feel a bit like a fusion of science and probably Night Sister type stuff, but you know, there are those red markings on the floor in the vault. And so all this was really nicely done where it's just having this, this if you do rack up the tensions, they get to the ship. The comms don't work, that alerts everyone. Then you've got a ship coming, then you've got like these beasts, which are just like scaly gorillas. The lecturers or the big beasts?

[01:44:20] The big beasts.

[01:44:21] The big beasts, yeah, the ones we haven't got the name for. I suppose the tension from

[01:44:24] that comes from we know we lost three stormtroopers in the first episode heavily armoured, carrying beast from from last season. But it also maybe it was crossed with some of the genetics of Grand Admiral Thrawn because it had red eyes. So maybe it's hyper intelligent. I think this is the native creature to the patch. It's the relationship between Amiga and crosshair it's just interesting isn't it because he's kind of it's like it's almost he can't be bothered but he absolutely is bothered

[01:47:00] you know it's in some respects it's a distant way whilst they've both been prisoners at Mount Tantis. It's an interesting one.

[01:48:20] That's part of Amigia's character is that she is looking for the good in people all

[01:48:25] the time and will always find the blood sample which has glows a nice yellow, positive yellow

[01:49:40] to say that this blood has got the right m-count So I love that calculation that happens here, which allows them ultimately to escape as he has to think of keeping her alive. Exactly. Yeah, so I really like that. Really good. And that's where we end. That is the end of this opening trilogy of episodes.

[01:51:02] Gentlemen, any notes that we may have not discussed? I have two actually on this. who's the guard there and he goes back into the turbo lift and it felt really unusual because it felt significant and yet it's the first time I've seen that guard there was if they weren't significant there was no other reason to linger on them so it was just throwing that she's a female clone. There's quite a few other female members of the team that are working there, the scientists that are working there, that we see in the background quite a lot. It's not just Emory, right? So, I presume they're all clones that are working on this project because they all look quite similar. It's hard to tell with animation unless it's specifically being pointed out to you, but they all look quite

[01:53:42] similar. So, I was just wondering if there are it was going to take a massive strike to break them out of Tantus so the fact that they got out on their own and now are going off to search for the match in their own way is really interesting. I wonder does it mean though that Hunter and Wrecker are going to arrive on Tantus and get captured by themselves to just

[01:55:01] swap places with Echo and Crosshair? That would be disappointing. All they're sweeping that sector and get around this project necromancy and the fact that it is Palpatine's contingency plan. No matter how much he sort of wraps it up as being for the good of the Empire, I love the way he calls it this Empire the tone is what I would kinda classify as 10-20% darker than season 2. Yeah. Which ended quite dark. With a good teaspoon of necromancy. Yeah. Okay, exactly thinking, oh my goodness, that's the worst New Zealand accent I've ever heard. Anyway, that was your Scottish accent. I thought about Scottish accent. Thank you. Well, it's better than New Zealand accent. But do you know what will really make this episode so much better?

[01:59:00] Let's head on over to a cantina.

[01:59:02] Yes, that is exactly right, Chris. getting some bad batch goodies. Excellent. Yes. That brings us to the end of our episode one, two, three discussion. But you know what that means. It's the end of the episode, not the end of the show, because we will be back next week for our discussion of the bad batch