Derek and John chat all about the very twisty Lanterns Episode 4 "The Weenie" in full spoiler filled detail. Do we know who the Manhunter is or just get even more candidates for the list?
Lanterns Episode 4 “The Weenie” Synopsis
Episode Written by: Breannah Gibson
Episode Directed By: Geeta Vasant Patel
In 2016, Sinestro gives Hal Jordan information about the Manhunters physiology and also suggests delivering the Manhunter to the Guardians to undermine John Stewart, proving he is unfit to replace him as Earth's Green Lantern.
Meanwhile back on Earth, as John and Hal continue to hang around Rushville, John is visited by the Guardian, Lianna, at his motel room who tells him the time in now right for him to replace Hal and urges him to take the ring.
With the Alien Antaan's, 48 hour deadline to identify the Manhunter rapidly approaching, Hal and John's stakeout of the Macon ranch identifies a hidden structure or "Weenie" being guarded by several lookout towers. Suspecting William's benefactor is at his ranch, Hal and John infiltrate the property, after looping in Sheriff Kerry Kane, and discover an armoury of high-tech weapons. After triggering an alarm they are captured and brought in front of William Macon. John is asked to draw William in the nude, while his wife, Zoe is present. During this unusual capture, William reveals quite a lot to Hal and John and also tells them he is protecting the benefactor's identity in exchange for ensuring Rushville's safety. Half and John are saved by the intervention of Sheriff Kane who takes them into custody.
Later, Zoe secretly visits John at his motel room to convince him to leave town but fails and in so doing also reveals a lot more as she extends her stay with John in his room. Leaving the motel with a bounce in her step, Zoe's truck is destroyed by an orbital strike and she apparently dies.
Hal and John, with the help from Kerry Kane who has been gathering evidence from her husband's files, traces the attack to Atlas, Inc. A company involved in high-tech abattoirs and owned by Hector Hammond. When Hal pushes his bluff he owns up to being a decoy and identifies William as the real Manhunter.
However, Hal later deduces that Zoe is the Manhunter and that John already knew it. After he gets John to call Antaan to arrange a meeting, Hal jumps from their car and causes it to crash, leaving John inside.
Lanterns Episode 4 Cast
- Aaron Pierre as John Stewart
- Kyle Chandler as Hal Jordan
- Kelly MacDonald as Sheriff Kelly
- Garrett Delahunt as William Macon
- Poorna Jagannathan as Zoe
- Ulrich Thomsen as Sinestro
- Paul Ben-Victor as Antaan
- with Laura Linney as Lianna
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00:00 --> 00:07 [SPEAKER_03]: This is the Lenton's podcast on TV podcast industries, and we're discussing Lenton's episode for The Weeny.
00:08 --> 00:09 [SPEAKER_00]: So who's this man under?
00:11 --> 00:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure you have a theory.
00:13 --> 00:15 [SPEAKER_01]: We think it's making benefactor.
00:16 --> 00:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And because your husband is making slower, I'm guessing, that you know the money makers identity.
00:24 --> 00:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I don't.
00:26 --> 00:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Come on, you're as wife.
00:28 --> 00:30 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't have that kind of relationship.
00:31 --> 00:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I've lived here a long time, and I've never seen you make as money guy.
00:35 --> 00:37 [SPEAKER_00]: How do you, too, even think you're going to get to him?
00:37 --> 00:39 [SPEAKER_01]: We think he's in a building on the ranch.
00:39 --> 00:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Junior called it a weaning, and we're going to pay a visit to it.
00:43 --> 00:45 [SPEAKER_01]: OK. OK, that's it.
00:46 --> 00:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Aliens are going to blow up my town, finding him.
00:49 --> 00:50 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll stop them, right?
00:51 --> 00:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, probably.
00:55 --> 00:56 [SPEAKER_00]: you're only gonna get one shot at this.
00:57 --> 00:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Do not mess.
01:24 --> 01:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back fellow lanterns, fellow guardians.
01:27 --> 01:30 [SPEAKER_03]: This is the lanterns podcast on TV podcast industries.
01:31 --> 01:36 [SPEAKER_03]: And we're here talking all about lanterns episode four, the Weeney.
01:37 --> 01:38 [SPEAKER_03]: I am one of your host John.
01:39 --> 01:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I am your other host Derek.
01:41 --> 01:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I will not be exposing my Weeney on this podcast.
01:44 --> 01:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
01:45 --> 01:45 [SPEAKER_02]: audio podcast.
01:45 --> 01:57 [SPEAKER_03]: I presume Walt Disney was talking about something else John Stewart's when he maybe called his architectural is hidden architectural and structure a weaning yes.
01:58 --> 02:02 [SPEAKER_02]: But John Stuart is also an architect and, you know, I think he probably knows the right term.
02:02 --> 02:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just one of those weird anomalies that when you choose the term in 1930s and 1940s, a couple of years later, it suddenly means something very different.
02:11 --> 02:11 [SPEAKER_02]: That's just true.
02:12 --> 02:15 [SPEAKER_02]: But I do love that moment when Halterge had to jump and go as well.
02:15 --> 02:16 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess we did see Mike and Zweeney.
02:17 --> 02:21 [SPEAKER_03]: So, yes, anyway, we are here for the fourth episode of Lanterns.
02:22 --> 02:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we are.
02:24 --> 02:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Again, another really good episode for me.
02:28 --> 02:30 [SPEAKER_03]: I am loving this series.
02:31 --> 02:39 [SPEAKER_03]: I just think there's a really nice mix of just the mystery Good, a good snappy humor.
02:39 --> 02:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, back and forth and also just some good character development.
02:44 --> 02:46 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm enjoying this story is basically what I'm saying
02:46 --> 02:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Devson and the cast and the right thing.
02:48 --> 02:51 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, it's very special.
02:51 --> 02:56 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's it's really Gonna down a tree really in my brain anyway.
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03:11 --> 03:27 [SPEAKER_02]: You can email us with your thoughts on any of the episodes that we're covering on TV podcast industries to feed back at TV podcast industries.com Which is the same place at the end of the series where you can email your answers to our rush fill redneck pub quiz And the next question of which will be up later on in this episode.
03:28 --> 03:33 [SPEAKER_02]: There'll be eight questions given either across the course of the series And at the end you may be able to get your hands on some lanterns.
03:33 --> 03:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Good easy if you get them all right.
03:34 --> 03:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, fellow lanterns and of course fellow quizzes.
03:37 --> 03:40 [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, can't wait to see the results
03:41 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_03]: of this upcoming Rushville redneck bar quiz.
03:46 --> 03:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, should be fun.
03:47 --> 03:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Always do enjoy a good bar quiz.
03:49 --> 03:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, poor quiz.
03:50 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and thankfully because it's HBO, there are some good lanterns related goodies are available as well as their little shop open at the moment.
03:58 --> 04:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, they do have a replica of the ring, but it's apparently on back order till about November.
04:04 --> 04:06 [SPEAKER_02]: So if that does happen to be one of the
04:07 --> 04:09 [SPEAKER_02]: items that's available in the goodies.
04:09 --> 04:11 [SPEAKER_02]: You may get it, but it may be like, there you go.
04:12 --> 04:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, indeed.
04:13 --> 04:23 [SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing worse though than bad merch associated with good TV shows.
04:24 --> 04:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Primarily as well, comic orientated TV shows because you just think the merch the merchandise would be One of the big things you really were going from these types of shows.
04:34 --> 04:48 [SPEAKER_03]: So well done HBO absolutely I'm sure there's quite a few viewers that would love to have a replica of a of John Stuart's drawing of Garrett del Hunt Absolutely there I say it just a new version of John Stuart
04:49 --> 04:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that too, maybe, yeah, maybe.
04:51 --> 04:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Zoe, yeah.
04:52 --> 04:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely, yeah.
04:54 --> 04:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Off she goes.
04:55 --> 04:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
04:56 --> 04:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Need seconds.
04:57 --> 04:58 [SPEAKER_03]: And, possibly.
04:59 --> 05:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Let us get on with a spoiler-filled description of this fourth episode of Lantons.
05:06 --> 05:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Derek, what are some of the episode details?
05:09 --> 05:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the show owners for the show, of course, are Chris Mundi, Damon Lindloff, and Tom King.
05:13 --> 05:16 [SPEAKER_02]: This episode was written by Brianna Gibson, her first episode of the series.
05:16 --> 05:18 [SPEAKER_02]: She also write next week's episode episode 5.
05:18 --> 05:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Previously, we talked about Brianna's contribution to our other DC show, the Pengunci wrote episode 5.
05:24 --> 05:29 [SPEAKER_02]: That was the episode where Sophia introduced the gigante family to Gotham.
05:29 --> 05:32 [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, really good episode of Pengun as well.
05:32 --> 05:36 [SPEAKER_02]: If you haven't seen Pengun and you're sitting here watching Lanterns and going, oh, I'd love to see a show like that.
05:36 --> 05:37 [SPEAKER_02]: But,
05:37 --> 05:40 [SPEAKER_02]: set in a crime-ridden city like Gotham, go back to penguins.
05:40 --> 05:45 [SPEAKER_03]: You're absolutely, I think William Maccon is from the Giganti family of the world.
05:45 --> 05:46 [SPEAKER_03]: He certainly is.
05:46 --> 05:48 [SPEAKER_02]: He certainly is.
05:48 --> 05:50 [SPEAKER_02]: The episode was directed by Geese of Ascent Patel.
05:51 --> 05:53 [SPEAKER_02]: She will be directing three episodes this season, including this one.
05:53 --> 05:55 [SPEAKER_02]: And Rex Episode 5 and Episode 7.
05:56 --> 05:58 [SPEAKER_02]: She also directed three episodes of The House of the Dragon.
05:58 --> 05:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll show you absolutely love watching too.
06:00 --> 06:03 [SPEAKER_02]: And directed the penultimate episode of a Soka Season 1.
06:03 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_02]: So, are we talked about it before it or?
06:05 --> 06:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's a big one then, the penultimate.
06:07 --> 06:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well as yeah, it was massive episode, yeah.
06:09 --> 06:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Excellent stuff, yeah.
06:11 --> 06:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Good pedigree is going on here, I think, with the rising and directing.
06:15 --> 06:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Definitely, definitely.
06:17 --> 06:20 [SPEAKER_02]: HBO always seemed to get their hands and great writers and directors for the shows as well.
06:21 --> 06:23 [SPEAKER_02]: So try the quality is so good on HBO, really.
06:23 --> 06:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
06:25 --> 06:29 [SPEAKER_02]: So John, do you want to tell us what they gave us with your synopsis for a lanterns episode four?
06:29 --> 06:29 [SPEAKER_02]: The Weenie.
06:30 --> 06:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
06:32 --> 06:45 [SPEAKER_03]: In 2016, Sinestro gives Hal Jordan information about the manhunter's physiology, and also suggests delivering the manhunter to the guardians, to undermine John Stuart, proving he is on fit to replace him as Earth's Green Lantern.
06:45 --> 06:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Meanwhile, back on Earth, as John and Hal continue to hang around Rushville, John is visited by the guardian Leanna, at his motel room.
06:54 --> 06:59 [SPEAKER_03]: He tells him the time is now right for him to replace Hal and urges him to take the ring.
07:00 --> 07:15 [SPEAKER_03]: With the alien, Anton's 48-hour deadline to identify the man hunter rapidly approaching Halenjon's stake out of the Macon Ranch, identifies a hidden structure, or weeny, being guarded by several lookout towers.
07:16 --> 07:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Suspecting William's benefactor is at his ranch, Halenjon infiltrate the property after looping in Sheriff Kerry Kane, and discover an armory of high-tech weapons.
07:27 --> 07:36 [SPEAKER_03]: After triggering an alarm their captured and brought in front of William Maken, John is asked to draw William in the nude while his wife Zoe is present.
07:37 --> 07:47 [SPEAKER_03]: During this unusual capture, William reveals quite a lot to Hal and John, and also tells them he is protecting the benefactors identity in exchange for ensuring Rushville's safety.
07:48 --> 07:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Hal and John are saved only by the intervention of Sheriff Kane who takes them into custody.
07:55 --> 08:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Later, Zoe secretly visits John and his motel room to convince him to leave town, but fails.
08:02 --> 08:09 [SPEAKER_03]: And in so doing, also reveals a lot more about herself as she extends her stay with John in his room.
08:09 --> 08:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Leaving the motel with a bountiness step, Zoe's truck is tragically destroyed by an orbital strike and she apparently dies.
08:17 --> 08:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Hal and John, with the help from Kerry Kane, who has been gathering evidence on her husband's files, traces the attack to Atlas Incorporated.
08:25 --> 08:30 [SPEAKER_03]: A company involved in high-tech ABBA trials, and owned by Hector Haland.
08:31 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_03]: When Hal pushes his bluff, he owns up to being a decoy and identifies William as the real man hunter.
08:38 --> 08:44 [SPEAKER_03]: However, how late it reduces that Zoe is the man hunter and that Jon already knew it.
08:45 --> 08:53 [SPEAKER_03]: If you get Jon to call Anton to arrange a meeting, how Jon's from their car and causes it to crash leaving Jon inside.
08:55 --> 08:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Who's the man home tonight?
08:57 --> 09:03 [SPEAKER_02]: No, that's about 16 different theories still in the episode.
09:03 --> 09:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I reckon it's Terry Kane.
09:05 --> 09:06 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
09:06 --> 09:10 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a moment that it felt like it was Terry in the episode, you know, where she's going.
09:11 --> 09:15 [SPEAKER_02]: We don't have that kind of relationship when asked a pretty straight forward question.
09:15 --> 09:16 [SPEAKER_02]: What's going on?
09:16 --> 09:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Why do you not have that kind of relationship with your husband?
09:19 --> 09:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Is it because you're the man, aren't you?
09:21 --> 09:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, it's a weird response to that question.
09:24 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, arguably she could be just saying, I'm not in his business, like, Terti Klein privilege as well.
09:31 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
09:32 --> 09:34 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, it could be that.
09:34 --> 09:38 [SPEAKER_03]: But equally, she's in the loop, you know, as House says, I'm looping her in.
09:39 --> 09:54 [SPEAKER_03]: She is involved in all this so if the man hunter has a good chance of being able to sort of get a couple of steps ahead Yeah, it's because the man hunter is carry king absolutely also currently hugely onto the radar so
09:55 --> 09:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, very good.
09:56 --> 10:09 [SPEAKER_02]: No, they do keep saying that the reason why it can't be is because she has records that are before they know the bandhunter was on the planet, so yeah, there's definitely no way anybody could falsify records at all that would be impossible.
10:11 --> 10:24 [SPEAKER_03]: in a city like Gotham, such a high-tech person, being able to sort of infiltrate and yes, correct, different records or even just insert them in, yeah, so I don't think there would be capable of that.
10:24 --> 10:34 [SPEAKER_02]: So really what how has to do is go rent and pulling out people's hearts and seeing if they turn to crystal, just to see who is the man hunter, that's basically it.
10:34 --> 10:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
10:36 --> 10:36 [SPEAKER_02]: But
10:40 --> 10:45 [SPEAKER_03]: I think we should get into our powering points at first up, powering point number one.
10:50 --> 10:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Four.
10:53 --> 10:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Never gets old.
10:55 --> 10:55 [SPEAKER_03]: I might be getting old.
10:55 --> 10:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Never gets old.
10:57 --> 10:58 [SPEAKER_02]: For our listeners.
10:58 --> 10:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
10:59 --> 11:03 [SPEAKER_03]: We are on to our powering point number one.
11:03 --> 11:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Zenestro.
11:04 --> 11:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
11:05 --> 11:09 [SPEAKER_03]: I must say I am really, really, really enjoying this Zenestro.
11:09 --> 11:11 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's hardly been on screen.
11:11 --> 11:12 [SPEAKER_03]: I like the...
11:14 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_03]: like the design, the vibe of him, just, you know, not outrageous, but, you know, quietly threatening.
11:23 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
11:24 --> 11:31 [SPEAKER_03]: And very calculated, very methodical, and just really, really enjoying it.
11:31 --> 11:33 [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, arguably, a lot of these, uh,
11:34 --> 11:38 [SPEAKER_03]: opening bits with Sinestre, or what we saw at the end of episode two.
11:39 --> 11:58 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, some of the same conversation and dialogue, but this I'm really, really enjoyed and I do just like the quiet authority that Orick Thompson is bringing here as Sinestre, as I remember.
11:59 --> 12:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I could sort of lap up those conversations even if it was just in the planet prison and because
12:10 --> 12:22 [SPEAKER_03]: I think this semester has made a really good impression, and weirdly, I think it was Mark Strong in the original Green Lanterns, was probably one of the better things about that movie.
12:22 --> 12:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I would say casting Mark Strong in any role, in any movie is usually a really good thing.
12:28 --> 12:32 [SPEAKER_02]: It's terrible movie, and the role is pretty poor, unfortunately, to completely misused.
12:33 --> 12:51 [SPEAKER_02]: if not miscast he was he you cast him in the movie he's going to do a great performance but even he couldn't save us no agreed yeah um but here this is a really good synestro they've made reference and i think we mentioned this uh the last time we saw synestro this is intended to evoke um sounds for the lambs it's intended to evoke
12:52 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_02]: You're main investigator speaking to Hannibal Lecter behind bars, you know, so so there's definitely an element of that We can definitely feel that as well.
13:04 --> 13:13 [SPEAKER_02]: So much so I think I've watched about six episodes of the of the first season of Hannibal this week Because it's been in my mind so much and so that's because of lanterns
13:13 --> 13:31 [SPEAKER_02]: But I wanted to come back to one quick point because we mentioned last time the ending of the episode with Cestro and how it walked in, Cestro was talking about the fact that the man hunter will be the second biggest threat to how and that John Stewart could potentially be the first threat but we were wondering whether it was just how they were cutting that.
13:33 --> 13:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Cliff Hanger at the end of the episode, or whether Sinestro genuinely means that John is the biggest threat to how.
13:40 --> 13:44 [SPEAKER_02]: And he does, well, at least he has that conversation with how that he believes John's the biggest threat.
13:44 --> 13:48 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's this big question, Hang on a second, you're on a planet on your own.
13:49 --> 13:51 [SPEAKER_02]: You have no contact with anybody.
13:52 --> 13:54 [SPEAKER_02]: How would you possibly know about John Sturors?
13:55 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Sanestra saying to how, well, you know, my trainee got a trainee.
13:59 --> 14:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Those types of things tend to make waves and tend to find their ways to my ears.
14:03 --> 14:06 [SPEAKER_02]: So, Sanestra does have some kind of connection to the outside of the world.
14:07 --> 14:08 [SPEAKER_02]: I think somebody brings it food.
14:08 --> 14:09 [SPEAKER_03]: No, absolutely.
14:09 --> 14:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
14:11 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think as well here with Sanestra, he says, you know, well, you don't believe he's your backup, do you, you know?
14:18 --> 14:20 [SPEAKER_03]: And how is, like, no?
14:21 --> 14:21 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't.
14:21 --> 14:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, then what is he?
14:22 --> 14:24 [SPEAKER_03]: And he's like forced to confront it.
14:24 --> 14:26 [SPEAKER_03]: It's his replacement.
14:26 --> 14:31 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think Sinestro also says, my training has a training as well.
14:31 --> 14:37 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's just a nice little, you know, moment here where, like you say,
14:38 --> 14:51 [SPEAKER_03]: In solitary confinement in a dungeon, he has his threads going his little birds a bit like Varus for our own game of Thrones.
14:51 --> 14:54 [SPEAKER_02]: He's going out, bringing him information.
14:56 --> 15:07 [SPEAKER_03]: I do like the fact he's kind of, you know, probing as, you know, word did the Guardian's get him, you know, it's the Marines and he's like, well, you will need to kill John Stuart though, he says.
15:07 --> 15:14 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, at least Halter's no, because I mean, like, when asked why it's like, well, I'm not eating this.
15:14 --> 15:17 [SPEAKER_03]: And just because I don't like him, doesn't mean I'll kill him.
15:18 --> 15:19 [SPEAKER_03]: But then, you know,
15:21 --> 15:43 [SPEAKER_03]: after that sort of more direct way of undermining John Stuart by death or murder, you know, just kind of place the idea in the mind of how to undermine John Stuart here by effectively, you know,
15:44 --> 15:59 [SPEAKER_03]: bringing the manhunter to the guardian directly rather than John Stewart, thereby in a sense, I think he says, disgracing John, in the process you do this, you'll be able to get your job back based in and press the guardian.
15:59 --> 16:00 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's an interesting one.
16:01 --> 16:08 [SPEAKER_02]: And definitely something I feel like after watching a couple of times, something else that came out of the conversation is,
16:09 --> 16:26 [SPEAKER_02]: how celestial tells how to undermine John and how to deal with him is basically if he's fearless and you believe that he's fearless he'll also be arrogant and he'll be blinded to the fact that you're trying to manipulate him to get the manhunter and bring him back to the Guardians and keep your job effectively.
16:26 --> 16:33 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you notice from that point onwards in the episode, how seems to be dealing with John in a bit of a different way than he has.
16:33 --> 16:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, absolutely.
16:35 --> 16:39 [SPEAKER_03]: I do like the fact as well, it sort of triggers how to say, is that how you treated me?
16:39 --> 16:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, to sinister.
16:41 --> 16:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Very much so.
16:41 --> 16:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, realizing maybe the the the method he that was used to sort of, you know, deceive him.
16:50 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I can, you know, this, this was really good.
16:54 --> 16:58 [SPEAKER_03]: back and forth and piss a part of between how and sinister here.
16:58 --> 17:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely, and we learn, you know, in a conversation later on that's had in the episode, we learn that how is telling John and instructing John to keep everybody in a distance.
17:09 --> 17:12 [SPEAKER_02]: This is an F and lonely job he says.
17:12 --> 17:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Keep everyone in a distance from now on for the rest of your life or else you will be hurt and so will they, effectively, is what how it's saying.
17:19 --> 17:20 [SPEAKER_02]: And it feels like here,
17:21 --> 17:31 [SPEAKER_02]: He's talking about Sinestro, himself and Sinestro had such a close relationship, again, mirroring the relationship that John at least wanted to have with how, how had that relationship with Sinestro in the past?
17:31 --> 17:39 [SPEAKER_02]: I really want to see the flashback which I hope was coming in a feature episode where we see the two of them working side by side because we haven't seen much of NICE
17:45 --> 17:47 [SPEAKER_02]: This is around the time he was working with semester.
17:47 --> 17:47 [SPEAKER_02]: We understand.
17:47 --> 17:59 [SPEAKER_02]: And from this point onwards, we see the guardians are effectively saying that they want John to take over immediately from Hell now because he's broken his oath and gone to visit Snaster.
18:00 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_02]: So, so this mentor meant he relationship this close connection between the two of them means that John has broken his oath gone against what the guardians want gone to talk to Snaster.
18:09 --> 18:34 [SPEAKER_03]: got this information from him to treat John differently and he does well and to find out about manhunter as well like what does he know about manhunter so he just get or glean that information we learn later and but it is also that Sinestro also then dominates that conversation there is own purposes and you get that sense of Sinestro's threads throughout this not just in terms of
18:35 --> 18:37 [SPEAKER_03]: how they're playing through.
18:37 --> 18:57 [SPEAKER_03]: So on the one hand, it's that John is thinking of how to sort of get back in favor with the Guardians, but it's also by John going by bringing the manhunter, it's also precipitated this whole visit as precipitated this violation of his oath.
18:58 --> 19:22 [SPEAKER_03]: for how which then is precipitating Leanna going to John to say you now have to take the ring and thirdly like you say just how he personally whether it's in small talk or whether it's about asking how John's mom is doing you know post an estro it feels a little bit more personal in
19:25 --> 19:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, absolutely.
19:26 --> 19:38 [SPEAKER_03]: So I love how the threads of Sinestro sort of go through this episode via how and actually what it's kick started exactly.
19:38 --> 19:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
19:39 --> 19:41 [SPEAKER_02]: And one of the other things we're going to mention.
19:41 --> 19:44 [SPEAKER_02]: We were talking about the potential man hunters in the episode.
19:44 --> 19:49 [SPEAKER_02]: And even by the end, when it seems to confirm who is the man hunter, I'm still questioning it.
19:49 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_02]: One of the other candidates for that.
19:51 --> 20:15 [SPEAKER_02]: for me definitely as Leanna after this episode whose presented herself as a guardian is talking to John but interestingly in the past every single green lantern has been chosen by a ring here and this show John Stuart's been chosen by the guardians he's only met one of them at she appears in his hotel room and says to him the next time how gives you the ring then you say
20:20 --> 20:23 [SPEAKER_02]: And John kind of goes, question to the same way I did, hang on a second, what do you mean?
20:24 --> 20:27 [SPEAKER_02]: You won't tell how that he is being replaced.
20:27 --> 20:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I have to do that, undermine him and steal the position as Green Lantern from underneath.
20:33 --> 20:36 [SPEAKER_02]: And that seems like a really odd way to do this.
20:36 --> 20:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't it, like suddenly, how else thrown out on the streets and I've got his ring and I know that he Lantern.
20:42 --> 20:44 [SPEAKER_02]: That's never happened before that I understand anyway.
20:44 --> 20:48 [SPEAKER_02]: So it makes me think Lyanna is manipulating John.
20:48 --> 20:58 [SPEAKER_02]: We hear a comment in the episode that the manhunter will find a position of power, manipulate that position of power until they have the power.
20:58 --> 21:00 [SPEAKER_02]: So it feels like Lyanna is doing that with John.
21:00 --> 21:07 [SPEAKER_02]: He is a person that could potentially take the power of the Green Lantern and hand that power over to the manhunter basically.
21:08 --> 21:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Or be back at it by that.
21:09 --> 21:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
21:10 --> 21:13 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I know absolutely.
21:13 --> 21:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's certainly not clear yet that the man home to despite what they have done in the past, despite what Anton and the alien.
21:23 --> 21:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
21:24 --> 21:31 [SPEAKER_03]: As said, they did to his people, you know, why did Avansar have this man home to
21:37 --> 21:43 [SPEAKER_03]: been like taken into custody, or was he trying to protect it in some way?
21:44 --> 21:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Again, this pathway to power and privilege within the community in Rushville, or more Galactically with the guardians, as you say, because all of the guardians are on board with
21:58 --> 22:07 [SPEAKER_03]: what is happening around John Stuart, but it's that manipulation potentially by Leanna, but it is
22:08 --> 22:11 [SPEAKER_03]: known by the Guardians as we understand.
22:11 --> 22:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, is this?
22:13 --> 22:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know.
22:14 --> 22:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, he's the coward.
22:15 --> 22:16 [SPEAKER_03]: But nobody else is talking to him.
22:16 --> 22:18 [SPEAKER_03]: But how is he going back to?
22:18 --> 22:22 [SPEAKER_03]: But how is knows that he's his trainee from the Guardians?
22:22 --> 22:31 [SPEAKER_03]: So unless he's going directly from Leanna, and know all the Guardian, then if it was just a ruse.
22:31 --> 22:32 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, true.
22:32 --> 22:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
22:33 --> 22:45 [SPEAKER_02]: The Guardians would be going on what he's talking about, true, but we know that he has limited connection to them because of his major action with Sinastery, but I think this is all stuff that we're supposed to think of.
22:45 --> 22:56 [SPEAKER_02]: I assume definitely one of the cool things about this show, because it's four episodes in of Ace, we've got another, or only halfway through, so we should be still questioning everybody, agree as to who's the manhunter, because that's this kind of central
22:58 --> 22:58 [SPEAKER_02]: a mystery, right?
22:59 --> 22:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
22:59 --> 22:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Agreed.
23:00 --> 23:08 [SPEAKER_03]: I think the other great thing here with the Anna, there is just how difficult when she speaks to John Stewart, just how difficult it becomes.
23:08 --> 23:16 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we see that John is, you know, it originally has gotten a call from his dad saying that the Guardian is trying to get in contact and he kind of...
23:17 --> 23:21 [SPEAKER_03]: I think you just hear him say, I'll go and get more, yeah, you're mother.
23:22 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_03]: And he hangs up.
23:23 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
23:24 --> 23:31 [SPEAKER_03]: But as Leana comes in, you know, and tells him he, you know, you have to go and get it.
23:32 --> 23:33 [SPEAKER_03]: You must take it.
23:33 --> 23:36 [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, oh, I didn't realize I would have to do the act.
23:36 --> 23:37 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought it would be the
23:42 --> 23:46 [SPEAKER_03]: And then it's like, I didn't realize your dad's weakness runs through you.
23:46 --> 23:48 [SPEAKER_03]: So far, really harsh.
23:48 --> 23:53 [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm influenced as John the Bites back, you know, I've worked my life for it.
23:53 --> 23:54 [SPEAKER_03]: That ring is mine.
23:55 --> 23:58 [SPEAKER_03]: That A-hole is just keeping it warm for me.
23:58 --> 24:02 [SPEAKER_03]: And that seems to satisfy that, you know, enough.
24:02 --> 24:06 [SPEAKER_03]: But it's just this immediate sort of...
24:07 --> 24:22 [SPEAKER_03]: poke and prod by Leanna at John and pure manipulation and but he's resolute with that look I've been doing this since before I was five.
24:23 --> 24:23 [SPEAKER_03]: This is mine.
24:23 --> 24:30 [SPEAKER_03]: I love that that is so definite in him on the
24:34 --> 24:41 [SPEAKER_03]: even though he could be being manipulated by Leanna or the Guardians or Leanna as a manhunter or whatever.
24:42 --> 24:51 [SPEAKER_03]: But you know, it's just really, really potentially the how this will all sort of unfold is really intriguing.
24:51 --> 25:03 [SPEAKER_02]: It is, it is definitely anisobos as the episode goes on knowing that John didn't actually take the opportunity at any point to take the ring, say the oath and become the Green Lantern even after this moment where he attacks back at the
25:04 --> 25:09 [SPEAKER_02]: It's also quite interesting to his story, isn't it, that he told her that's my ring.
25:09 --> 25:13 [SPEAKER_02]: I will absolutely do it and had two opportunities linked to do it.
25:13 --> 25:13 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't do it.
25:14 --> 25:14 [SPEAKER_03]: No, exactly.
25:15 --> 25:26 [SPEAKER_03]: I think one of the things I do like is that she says, well, how Jordan has been given us reports and he's saying that you're uncreative.
25:26 --> 25:28 [SPEAKER_03]: I know this links into our second point
25:32 --> 25:44 [SPEAKER_03]: you know, just before they go to InfoTrade, uh, Makins Ranch, and that he gives him a drawing of something that he should materialize with the green ring and it goes
25:46 --> 26:00 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm creative, like just a little, a little prod back at how as well after that interaction with Leanna, I'm creative, it's just really, I just like it's a nice little touch.
26:01 --> 26:06 [SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like he's saying to him, I have heard about your reports, yeah, don't think that you're a nice relation.
26:06 --> 26:10 [SPEAKER_02]: And I also know, again, how it goes, oh, why don't you create a junior who's the ring?
26:10 --> 26:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Because how can't create something as complicated as that?
26:13 --> 26:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
26:15 --> 26:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that in our point number one?
26:16 --> 26:16 [SPEAKER_02]: That's an extra.
26:17 --> 26:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely, I think we should get into our powering point number two.
26:27 --> 26:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, powering point number two, we're then a planet of sentient tentacles, or as my favorite new story connected to Atlantis this week, accidentally misread this as we're then a planet of sentient testicles and went to the search through all of DC Green Island in his future to find out, was it ever mentioned that there's a sentient planet of testicles in there?
26:48 --> 26:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, then I, Jan, definitely need your subtitles on when you're going to.
26:52 --> 26:56 [SPEAKER_02]: They're absolutely very weird path of what type of aliens there are in the galaxy.
26:56 --> 26:56 [SPEAKER_02]: No, absolutely.
26:56 --> 26:59 [SPEAKER_02]: They did find one, though, which made it even prettier.
26:59 --> 27:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Richard, yeah.
27:00 --> 27:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, third piece.
27:01 --> 27:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.
27:02 --> 27:06 [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, I had to watch it a second time.
27:06 --> 27:12 [SPEAKER_03]: And once you said that, just to make sure, because I did, I just think, given
27:14 --> 27:22 [SPEAKER_03]: the whole situation in the study that it was actually testicles, because that the intention and rather than tentacles.
27:22 --> 27:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, it was really, um, this, I think second point is, it is really kind of...
27:30 --> 27:41 [SPEAKER_03]: unique for me as to how weird it was but also just how telegraphed it was as well that weirdness by the actors in it.
27:41 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_03]: But it did lead to some really good nice little bits of humour.
27:45 --> 28:00 [SPEAKER_03]: and it also added in some really nice mystery over the high-tech weapons that were seen and used by the militia on Makins farm as well.
28:00 --> 28:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this darkness, I think.
28:02 --> 28:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he calls it as a prepared for any type of invasion, including basically if any green lanterns turn on them.
28:09 --> 28:13 [SPEAKER_02]: they wouldn't have to use the weapons that they were given if the green landed and turn on them.
28:13 --> 28:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Right?
28:14 --> 28:15 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what make and says.
28:15 --> 28:23 [SPEAKER_02]: So that black smoke that's emitted that seems to block the abilities of the green ring.
28:24 --> 28:27 [SPEAKER_02]: That's only there if they were attacked by green lanterns and they were.
28:27 --> 28:33 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, what an interesting set of space age weapons are available to
28:34 --> 28:40 [SPEAKER_02]: make his men to block them from, to block any attack from anybody that could be a threat to the man hunter.
28:40 --> 28:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.
28:42 --> 28:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was really, really good.
28:46 --> 28:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Seeing that, and then you get the study as well.
28:50 --> 28:51 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're
28:52 --> 28:55 [SPEAKER_03]: And again, it's just, it's the power control, isn't it?
28:56 --> 29:05 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not just that he is naked, lounging on the front of his study desk, man, as he's being painted by one of his prisoners.
29:06 --> 29:15 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's that the other prisoner is completely distracted and by this, like he does ask John Stuart, this is some weird shit, absolutely, you know?
29:16 --> 29:17 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm right, aren't I?
29:17 --> 29:38 [SPEAKER_03]: But it's not just about that, it's also about the fact in particular for John Stuart that he tells his wife to stay and he has the bite back when, you know, I think when Hal says, well, look, you can cover up now because Junior here can, he can draw really good from memory and he's like,
29:39 --> 29:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Macan's just says, well, maybe you'd like to draw my wife then.
29:42 --> 29:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
29:43 --> 29:50 [SPEAKER_03]: So like it's all this power play and coming from Macan.
29:50 --> 29:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
29:51 --> 29:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
29:51 --> 29:57 [SPEAKER_02]: But we do guess lots of information revealed about the manhunter.
29:57 --> 30:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Here he says manhunter arrived when he was told he was going to die of cancer.
30:03 --> 30:04 [SPEAKER_02]: The manhunter cured his cancer.
30:04 --> 30:07 [SPEAKER_02]: He said that Zoe was his nurse at the time when all the
30:09 --> 30:16 [SPEAKER_02]: He also says that the reason why the whole town is prospering, not only in their crops, they're also prospering in their health.
30:16 --> 30:24 [SPEAKER_02]: The reason why the health center is, looks brand new as we comment it on, is because the manhunter is helping them all age.
30:24 --> 30:32 [SPEAKER_02]: The whole town is benefiting from the relationship and the protection that make it an as man is providing to the manhunter, which is something we'd speculate at a base.
30:33 --> 30:34 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, if we
30:35 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_02]: take that jump forward that we saw in episode 1 to 2026, make it's entire ranch has been completely destroyed.
30:41 --> 30:43 [SPEAKER_02]: What does that mean for the people of this town?
30:43 --> 30:46 [SPEAKER_02]: If they're being protected by the man in prison?
30:46 --> 30:47 [SPEAKER_02]: And they're protecting the man hunter.
30:47 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
30:48 --> 30:51 [SPEAKER_03]: I love this conversation as well.
30:52 --> 30:58 [SPEAKER_03]: As he progresses through this and in particular, it's the coming back to how he's like goes,
30:59 --> 31:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so he's your boss now.
31:00 --> 31:05 [SPEAKER_03]: So it kind of it moves from benefactor to boss and then all of a sudden house like that.
31:05 --> 31:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it sounds more like a savior now.
31:08 --> 31:16 [SPEAKER_03]: You're you talking about a god and you know, sort of by the end of the conversation he's gone from a benefactor to being a god this manhunter.
31:16 --> 31:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and you know, it I just really enjoyed that
31:23 --> 31:43 [SPEAKER_03]: the way that was done really, yeah, to go through that story, as I say, you know, also peppered with some really nice kind of humorous bits, I think, at one point, Hal says, can we talk about the elephant in the room to which make and replies which one, and not that one.
31:44 --> 31:45 [SPEAKER_03]: And even, yeah, exactly.
31:46 --> 31:58 [SPEAKER_03]: And even the one, well, I've just mentioned before, where he says, you know, well, Junior can draw from memory, he says, well, maybe you can holster up now.
31:58 --> 31:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
31:58 --> 32:01 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's just those turns of phrase is really good.
32:01 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
32:02 --> 32:06 [SPEAKER_02]: And I also like when we're going to do like a bit of smoth in the end.
32:06 --> 32:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
32:08 --> 32:12 [SPEAKER_02]: And I also like when Sheriff Kane walks in to save the two guys, because so he's
32:15 --> 32:27 [SPEAKER_02]: put it away, you know, and it may be laugh because it may be think that he does this all the time when he's showing when he's showing his power and the power that an amic that he's in in this room that he will bring people in disrobe and make them draw him.
32:27 --> 32:30 [SPEAKER_02]: It just happened to get a great artist and John.
32:30 --> 32:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because actually John Stuart kind of hands it to him as he's taken away by Sheriff Kane and it's kind of like
32:39 --> 32:41 [SPEAKER_03]: There you go, look at that.
32:41 --> 32:42 [SPEAKER_03]: I love it right.
32:42 --> 32:43 [SPEAKER_02]: It looks pretty happy about it.
32:43 --> 32:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm wondering if occasionally you just get stick figures.
32:46 --> 32:47 [SPEAKER_03]: No, exactly.
32:47 --> 32:54 [SPEAKER_03]: I think the other good thing here as well is carrycains intervention.
32:54 --> 32:54 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean,
32:55 --> 33:16 [SPEAKER_03]: after the fact when she's sort of brought them back to the motel because the prison is still being effectively rebuilt from the explosion from the alien she goes, you know, she's really mad and she's like, I'm in with you in this shit now, you know, I'm totally this and deep in it, you know, she's
33:17 --> 33:29 [SPEAKER_03]: just kind of really do you ever shut up, you know, to the hell, Jordan and she gives John Stuart a shotgun and house like well nothing for me, she goes
33:30 --> 33:51 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're a super hero and I like I kind of I really like this, but I think even more so just you know this notion that she's being brought into the loop so they tell her that they're going to intervene and try and get into the compound and she says like you've got one chance at this and if if
33:52 --> 33:54 [SPEAKER_03]: if you caught, you've blown it.
33:54 --> 34:06 [SPEAKER_03]: And it is only from her intervention that we don't see what may have happened, you know, having been captured by William's militia effectively.
34:06 --> 34:08 [SPEAKER_03]: So I kind of liked
34:19 --> 34:21 [SPEAKER_03]: that level of information.
34:21 --> 34:30 [SPEAKER_03]: I know we saw it then again in 2026 and meeting up with John Stewart then the first episode.
34:31 --> 34:34 [SPEAKER_03]: But I was kind of the wondering, well,
34:36 --> 34:45 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a lot of information, depending on her relationship with the manhunter, let alone whether she might be.
34:46 --> 34:53 [SPEAKER_03]: She might think this is a great thing, I mean she has been actively managing the alien presence in the town.
34:54 --> 34:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, um, so it, it's that she's really interesting.
34:58 --> 35:00 [SPEAKER_03]: I think there's still more to come here.
35:00 --> 35:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes.
35:01 --> 35:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes, we are again episode four.
35:03 --> 35:05 [SPEAKER_02]: So we've got four more to go.
35:05 --> 35:11 [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think it's as simple as the reveal at the end of the episode.
35:11 --> 35:17 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's as simple as that because we pretty much called that reveal, which we're going to talk about in the second.
35:18 --> 35:20 [SPEAKER_02]: in the first episode of the series.
35:20 --> 35:24 [SPEAKER_02]: So my date is as simple as that is the reveal and that is all that it means.
35:24 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_02]: So we will see as the episodes go on at what contribution Kerry has to everything that's going on.
35:31 --> 35:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
35:32 --> 35:33 [SPEAKER_02]: But I do think
35:33 --> 35:39 [SPEAKER_02]: just even the reveal of how little time is left before the aliens are going to come into town, blow the place up.
35:39 --> 35:40 [SPEAKER_02]: It's about 36 hours, I think.
35:41 --> 35:44 [SPEAKER_02]: The judge says, you know, they're only a day and a half away.
35:44 --> 35:47 [SPEAKER_02]: And the time will lead to blow up or the manhunter will be revealed.
35:47 --> 35:53 [SPEAKER_02]: So Kerry Caine's got to go and, oh, I better get on board here pretty quickly and find the manhunter myself.
35:53 --> 35:55 [SPEAKER_02]: I need to do my own investigation because of that thing fails.
35:56 --> 35:57 [SPEAKER_02]: We need to find out how to stop
36:00 --> 36:23 [SPEAKER_03]: So in that kind of timers kind of spurring around to really step up her investigation and she's still investigating again She's got good tools that they haven't used absolutely and I mean because I do like the fact that she You know rifles through her husband's files In order to try and like narrow down who you know Follow the money and who that could lead to around the benefactor absolutely
36:24 --> 36:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, really good stuff.
36:25 --> 36:27 [SPEAKER_02]: The section really, really enjoyed it.
36:27 --> 36:36 [SPEAKER_02]: And particularly on a cardite, that amazing boring machine that John creates with his range looks so cool and really, really detail.
36:36 --> 36:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I love how it builds out of the sky and out of the light, it's really cool.
36:41 --> 36:55 [SPEAKER_02]: and really cool moment between John and how when they're breaking in and how to ask him questions about his family and you can see the light starts to flicker every time John gets slightly put off by any personal questions that are coming from how, because again, how's acting a bit weird?
36:55 --> 37:04 [SPEAKER_02]: He's asking him personal questions, so yeah, some cool stuff in this central point, but let's get on to our final power ring point, power ring point number three.
37:08 --> 37:12 [SPEAKER_02]: We talked a lot about the potential manhunter in this episode.
37:12 --> 37:20 [SPEAKER_02]: So originally we called this as though we the manhunter, but I guess we have a question mark at the end of that, though we the manhunter may be sort of kind of.
37:20 --> 37:44 [SPEAKER_02]: And we already mentioned, as we had a trip over, to have a chat to John, and a bit more than a chat as Ted's to happen between the two of them, but there's an interesting kind of post-coital conversation that they have where she says to John, when I tell you what I know it will change absolutely everything, and she seems really resistant to tell him what it is that she pretty much most have come there to tell him, right?
37:46 --> 37:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I guess so.
37:47 --> 38:00 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean even though with speculations about her being the manhunter, I think necessary it could have been a number of people and I'm still not entirely sure that with her arriving I just thought it was odd.
38:01 --> 38:10 [SPEAKER_03]: I think like there's an odd cut in this bit as well which suggests then okay maybe this is trying to show that something happened
38:12 --> 38:14 [SPEAKER_03]: before we actually think it did or something.
38:15 --> 38:22 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's where they're on John and Zowie are on the bed and talking after they've had sex.
38:22 --> 38:30 [SPEAKER_03]: And then it's when he cuts to them at the doorway of the motel and then he cuts back to them being on bed.
38:30 --> 38:34 [SPEAKER_03]: And then the next part is we see her leaving.
38:34 --> 38:35 [SPEAKER_03]: She's tries to tell him to leave.
38:35 --> 38:35 [SPEAKER_03]: She says,
38:36 --> 38:44 [SPEAKER_03]: You're either getting out of here alive by leaving or dead because my husband, William, is going to kill you.
38:44 --> 38:46 [SPEAKER_03]: So, and he and John...
38:49 --> 38:50 [SPEAKER_03]: doesn't want to leave.
38:50 --> 39:02 [SPEAKER_03]: He says that I feel everyone's lying to me and you know they have this I just say this conversation after the nooky nooky and and you were ultimately wants to find out the truth.
39:02 --> 39:06 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't know whether she said anything or not.
39:06 --> 39:12 [SPEAKER_03]: She may have done actually and to confirm absolutely that Jon knows that she is the man
39:18 --> 39:21 [SPEAKER_03]: I think yeah it's just really interesting.
39:21 --> 39:29 [SPEAKER_03]: I think as well in that conversation, John is saying, you know, what do you owe your husband here with this man?
39:30 --> 39:32 [SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, no, you have it wrong.
39:32 --> 39:37 [SPEAKER_03]: He was dying when I met him and I saved his life.
39:38 --> 39:41 [SPEAKER_03]: And now I'm trying to save yours.
39:42 --> 39:42 [SPEAKER_03]: And we
39:45 --> 39:56 [SPEAKER_03]: But William Maken has said clearly that the man hunter saved his life, not his wife, so he, and less.
39:57 --> 39:58 [SPEAKER_03]: she's the manhunter.
39:58 --> 40:02 [SPEAKER_03]: So there's a a few things here dropping to confirm that she's the manhunter.
40:03 --> 40:06 [SPEAKER_03]: And he's a still thing that could be a twist to be honest.
40:06 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm still not entirely sure.
40:10 --> 40:14 [SPEAKER_02]: But I want to say I'm just as simple as that she introduced the manhunter to make it.
40:14 --> 40:19 [SPEAKER_03]: It might be yeah and I think she certainly that could be why exactly.
40:20 --> 40:27 [SPEAKER_03]: And I also think that in the story, it could lend itself to John and how believing she is the man hunting.
40:27 --> 40:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Again, it's another layer of light that John has been talking about that kind of hangs over this town of Rushville, but also his situation as this trainee to a green lantern that doesn't want him.
40:42 --> 40:42 [SPEAKER_03]: So
40:43 --> 40:47 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's all kind of fairly layered and I still feel we're going to get a surprise.
40:47 --> 40:54 [SPEAKER_03]: But on the basis of her walking out, she's then killed as though she's not the man hunter or seemingly killed.
40:55 --> 40:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Again, I wonder whether that
40:58 --> 41:17 [SPEAKER_03]: cut edit type thing with almost like a flash forward and then a flash back again is some kind of indication that she's not entirely human that that's what she can do to it appears that she's leaving later than she actually does so that stuff can be done or whatever I don't know
41:25 --> 41:39 [SPEAKER_03]: and John on a journey to then go to the Atlas slot high-tech slaughterhouses in order to find the owner and who they then think is the man hunter.
41:41 --> 41:44 [SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, it all kind of progresses from there.
41:45 --> 41:57 [SPEAKER_03]: I must say I do like the high tech slaughterhouses here and the lasers before they dissect the cow that comes to one of those black.
41:58 --> 42:12 [SPEAKER_03]: teleporting the holes that we saw in the interview episode that John Stuart falls through and sort of puts the cuts of meat in laser form on on the cow.
42:12 --> 42:14 [SPEAKER_03]: But yes, this
42:15 --> 42:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Cowlays is just it was a very interesting high-tech slaughterhouse for sure and really was to to perfectly crush a cow into every single possible crush of meat you could get in a second but but something I just just to mention that as well you mentioned about the black doorway or the black portal that's created and the cow comes out of it.
42:38 --> 42:54 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, another indication that maybe Leanna is connected to more connected to the man hunters than to the guardians is the last time we saw that was it was being used by the person at guiding John Stuart towards his interview with Leanna he's the one that threw it at the black hole and so.
42:55 --> 43:02 [SPEAKER_02]: why would the manhunter have access to that technology and give it to this guy hector beforehand?
43:02 --> 43:11 [SPEAKER_02]: How would he have access to that if he's not connected with the Anna and the guardians or just the Anna is the manhunter, maybe that's another little sign of that.
43:12 --> 43:17 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it all comes from the investigation from Sheriff Cain because
43:18 --> 43:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Zoey's been killed by a satellite shot from space that took out her truck when she was leaving the hotel.
43:26 --> 43:28 [SPEAKER_02]: I just wanted to mention it because I just loved the scene.
43:28 --> 43:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I loved how Runzay's goes point in the sky, basically tell me where to go.
43:33 --> 43:35 [SPEAKER_02]: He goes and grabs the satellite.
43:35 --> 43:40 [SPEAKER_02]: The sky brings a den, throws it on the ground, smashes it in front of John.
43:40 --> 43:44 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's kind of like, well, I can't say for her, but I can very quickly track down who was the
43:45 --> 43:45 [SPEAKER_02]: basically.
43:45 --> 43:53 [SPEAKER_02]: So they use Sheriff Cains abilities to search up the serial number and find out what company could possibly be.
43:53 --> 43:56 [SPEAKER_02]: The ones behind this and it turns out to be this company Atlas.
43:57 --> 43:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
43:57 --> 44:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but also again, that's another double like bluff effectively.
44:05 --> 44:09 [SPEAKER_03]: because Hector Hammond is actually Hector Gutierrez.
44:09 --> 44:13 [SPEAKER_03]: But there's a nice scene just before that I think where Hector is threatening John Struz.
44:13 --> 44:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Family with another laser strike on the family home.
44:18 --> 44:23 [SPEAKER_03]: But also he then releases audio because he said he's been listening in just at the end.
44:24 --> 44:34 [SPEAKER_03]: key moment of when John is basically saying, you know, uh, this old man is just keeping the ring warm for me and it's the conversation in ours with uh, Leanna.
44:34 --> 44:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
44:35 --> 44:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but the ring is mine and I will take it and how then players up to that he kind of sees that
44:44 --> 44:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Hector is probably a smoke screen or a decoy, but Annie, he confronts him with it.
44:51 --> 44:56 [SPEAKER_03]: But he says, you know, let the laser go then, but I'll rip out your heart.
44:56 --> 44:57 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll give you 10 seconds.
44:59 --> 45:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Johnson, it's freaking out, you know, what are you doing?
45:02 --> 45:03 [SPEAKER_03]: He's good.
45:03 --> 45:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I would have given a ship before the recording.
45:06 --> 45:10 [SPEAKER_03]: But now, well, I'm not really that concerned.
45:11 --> 45:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Plus see them as, which I really love this line and I think it's classic line.
45:15 --> 45:19 [SPEAKER_03]: every superhero journey should start with the death of their parents.
45:20 --> 45:28 [SPEAKER_03]: And bang in the middle of all of this, we're really nice humour, a point of humour from how back to John Stewart.
45:29 --> 45:31 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's another bit to the mystery here for me as well.
45:32 --> 45:41 [SPEAKER_02]: It's part of the omission in the episode in the original discussion that how has with Sinestro Sinestro effectively holds it over how that
45:42 --> 45:51 [SPEAKER_02]: he knows more about man hunters than the guardians do, and that he would be able to give them information that would make it would be very valuable to the guardians.
45:52 --> 45:53 [SPEAKER_02]: But we don't hear what the information is.
45:54 --> 46:06 [SPEAKER_02]: We see how confront this guy, Hammond, and say to him, you know, what color was up on sewer, and when he can't answer that or tries to play it away, how goes, I don't think you've seen any aliens at all.
46:08 --> 46:18 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's from that point onwards that I'm wondering whether any of that information about the man hunters having hearts that turned to crystal, whether that was true or not, or whether it was just threatening this guy that he now knows his human.
46:19 --> 46:21 [SPEAKER_02]: And it turns out he's right.
46:22 --> 46:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Because I feel like there would be hardly any coming back from the fact of how almost push John Stuart's parents on the line here.
46:30 --> 46:31 [SPEAKER_02]: on lessy new otherwise.
46:31 --> 46:48 [SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like how was pretty convinced that since he didn't know the color of up and so this isn't the man hunter from there on everything else he says is just to wind up the guy and a little bit of winding up John Stuart but I don't think he had ever any intention that this guy would actually kill John Stuart's parents.
46:48 --> 46:50 [SPEAKER_02]: So I just I just wonder whether he is
46:53 --> 47:02 [SPEAKER_02]: just playing around with us a little bit on here because we didn't hear the information directly from Sinestro as to who what makes someone a man hunter or not.
47:02 --> 47:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, it's the same strategy as he played on Whalen, but he's using that technique, but he gets the sense.
47:14 --> 47:19 [SPEAKER_03]: That they could be dealing with a decoy or it's a trap.
47:19 --> 47:33 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but again, I think I'm not entirely sure you would have the manhunter sat behind the desk and maybe it's that as well Because all the slow-tale staff are acting very strange almost as though they're not
47:33 --> 47:33 [SPEAKER_03]: there.
47:33 --> 47:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they've been told not to worry about to strange people on the premises, breaking in as such but that is quite that was quite strange and that's not really being explained because it's almost like they don't know or don't see that they're there and but maybe John's was going well I wouldn't expect the man hunters to be sat behind the desk in
47:56 --> 47:57 [SPEAKER_03]: an abattoir.
47:57 --> 47:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, even if it is high tech.
47:59 --> 47:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
48:00 --> 48:14 [SPEAKER_03]: So, and those call the bluff and manages at least together, another part of the puzzle, at least off the table, but Hector gives up that well isn't it obvious who the man hunter is?
48:14 --> 48:16 [SPEAKER_03]: It's will make him.
48:16 --> 48:18 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, so the fact it back to Wilma.
48:18 --> 48:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Back to Wilma.
48:19 --> 48:22 [SPEAKER_02]: They had him naked in front of him in the ranch, and maybe he's the
48:24 --> 48:28 [SPEAKER_02]: but it also is the final question in the episode.
48:28 --> 48:41 [SPEAKER_02]: We have Hal and John driving back on their way to to William Maykins and Hal kind of goes, well, hi, I'm just like, and I noticed you were pretty stressed about potentially losing your parents.
48:41 --> 48:44 [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't seem very that stressed when you literally
48:45 --> 48:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Zoe, who's a person that you've had sex with a couple of times, I'm just seemed to be careful a lot.
48:49 --> 48:54 [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't really share it here or anything when she actually died right in front of you.
48:55 --> 48:58 [SPEAKER_02]: How did she survive unless she's the manhunter?
48:59 --> 49:03 [SPEAKER_02]: And then he jumps out of the car and sends John into a post in the car.
49:05 --> 49:19 [SPEAKER_02]: So this is the final piece of, is Zoe the Man Hunter, because how seems to think that she is, and that's the only possible way she could have gotten as of the satellite laser blowing up her car, and that John knew that.
49:19 --> 49:22 [SPEAKER_02]: So another massive cliffhanger at the end of the episode.
49:22 --> 49:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's the stall isn't it from John when Hal's asking him about man hunters and his conversation with Sinestra about manipulating and finding sources of power and working their way up.
49:38 --> 49:43 [SPEAKER_03]: that sort of power chain in local communities and he just says, does that remind you of anyone?
49:43 --> 50:02 [SPEAKER_03]: And effectively you have installing here and he just comes out with, well, it must be will make him as hector says and and how then kind of asks him to sort of out the blue to call Anton, the alien guy, um,
50:02 --> 50:27 [SPEAKER_03]: with the deadline before he sends in exploding aliens and how's like well I really did forgive you back there and I thought you'd be honest how long did you know about Zoey and so you get this confirmation that now they both got their suspicions on Zoey but they've kind of hardened again we don't really know fully what's happened in that motel room for
50:28 --> 50:38 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it then ultimately, as you say, lands with Zoe being, um, candidates, prime candidates for being the man of the manhood.
50:38 --> 50:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
50:39 --> 50:44 [SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, other interesting, what a great way to have your fourth episode for me anyway.
50:44 --> 50:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I love this kind of mystery show.
50:46 --> 51:01 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm having your fourth episode where you're still questioning everything that's going on even though People have been 100% convinced about who the man hunter is throughout this episode on screen And then you got to the end of the episode to go hang on a second Everybody's still a kind of the day.
51:01 --> 51:08 [SPEAKER_02]: I think nobody's been proven to be a man hunter until they actually say they are a man hunter Directly on-screen and maybe transform into their earlier form.
51:09 --> 51:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we can we can say for definitely the man hunter is
51:12 --> 51:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no.
51:13 --> 51:14 [SPEAKER_03]: I still think there's going to be surprises.
51:14 --> 51:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, loads more surprises to come.
51:17 --> 51:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Just got the general notes on the episodes.
51:19 --> 51:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Last week's episode had over 10 million viewers when the highest viewed shows in DC history, really, one of the, by back to some massive levels.
51:28 --> 51:33 [SPEAKER_02]: It's up there with some of the game's Game of Thrones ratings for HBO, so the show is absolutely huge.
51:33 --> 51:43 [SPEAKER_02]: And we're at a mouth as getting out there, getting people to watch some of this series, because it is very different to what people would expect, especially if they've only ever had an experience of the Green Lantern movie.
51:43 --> 51:49 [SPEAKER_02]: So, hopefully, that's a successful chance like to, to even more viewers for each week's episodes.
51:50 --> 51:51 [SPEAKER_02]: As I've got through it.
51:51 --> 51:55 [SPEAKER_02]: When we didn't mention last week, it was actually going to be our pub quiz question, John.
51:55 --> 51:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, do you remember it when,
51:58 --> 52:00 [SPEAKER_02]: John goes into his interview and behind him.
52:00 --> 52:02 [SPEAKER_02]: We see a cosmetics add in the background.
52:03 --> 52:05 [SPEAKER_02]: It's called Janus Cosmetics.
52:05 --> 52:08 [SPEAKER_02]: I remember you were writing down going, this could be a good question.
52:08 --> 52:10 [SPEAKER_02]: What Cosmetics Company is?
52:10 --> 52:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Janus Cosmetics is in the DC universe.
52:12 --> 52:15 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a sourness, corporation company.
52:16 --> 52:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Sourness is the black mask and he's appeared a couple of times.
52:20 --> 52:30 [SPEAKER_02]: in animated shows and maybe there's a possibility he might appear in James Gunn's live action universe because those posters have been around in some of the other DC properties as well.
52:30 --> 52:31 [SPEAKER_02]: So kind of cool.
52:32 --> 52:33 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah good stuff.
52:33 --> 52:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah one of my favorite lines.
52:35 --> 52:37 [SPEAKER_02]: The episode is where how walks into the uh...
52:38 --> 52:44 [SPEAKER_02]: high-tech abattoir and here's some some absolutely terrible music and goes jazz.
52:45 --> 52:45 [SPEAKER_02]: This can't be good.
52:46 --> 52:46 [SPEAKER_02]: It isn't.
52:47 --> 52:47 [SPEAKER_02]: It's terrible.
52:47 --> 52:52 [SPEAKER_02]: No, that was sung by Kenny G, which is not jazz and isn't very good at all.
52:52 --> 52:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, that was a great line.
52:53 --> 53:00 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just before the Carolazes take effect on the poor cattle.
53:00 --> 53:02 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, no, that was a good line.
53:02 --> 53:12 [SPEAKER_02]: and I love that after they've avoided being covered in blood because hell's put up the shield just John goes, that is why I am a vegan, that's really good.
53:12 --> 53:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Last one, Halle refers to a lantern who is a squirrel who is in the car talking away to John, that is correct in the comic books, there is a squirrel looking creature, I'm just called Chip in the comics, so he is a green lantern that looks like a squirrel.
53:25 --> 53:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Excellent, there you go.
53:27 --> 53:30 [SPEAKER_02]: So, I love that they've just told in those little Easter eggs here are there.
53:31 --> 53:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Overall, John, what's your final thoughts on this episode of Landtons?
53:35 --> 53:38 [SPEAKER_03]: I really enjoyed this episode of Landtons.
53:38 --> 53:43 [SPEAKER_03]: I'd give this five paint me like one of your French boys as a five.
53:44 --> 53:49 [SPEAKER_03]: I just saw the mystery and even the back and forth on the manhunter.
53:49 --> 53:51 [SPEAKER_03]: I just liked that because I think everyone's had their own
53:54 --> 54:16 [SPEAKER_03]: thoughts there is all the way through and they've been changing around who the manhunter could be in Rushville and I think even though how and John have sort of come down on Zoe being the manhunter and I suspect it will be I still feel there could be some kind of twist to this that it's not
54:22 --> 54:36 [SPEAKER_03]: life difficult for John Stewart in his dealings with the the aliens that he's been told to to phone and arrange a meeting, you know, ahead of being slammed into a telegraph pulse.
54:36 --> 54:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
54:37 --> 54:41 [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, that's all really a great cliffhanger here.
54:43 --> 54:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think the weirdness of Will Maken's office down to sort of Sinestro's opener and all really layer this with huge amounts of intrigue as I said at the start.
54:58 --> 55:00 [SPEAKER_03]: I think I'm just really enjoying this story.
55:00 --> 55:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I've not really ever been in the Green Lantern's world before and
55:06 --> 55:10 [SPEAKER_03]: If I have been, I've wanted to come out of it quite quickly.
55:10 --> 55:15 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm loving the fact that this has got me paying attention to this corner of the DC world.
55:15 --> 55:20 [SPEAKER_03]: The whilst I've known about it, it's not something I've really wanted to look into.
55:20 --> 55:26 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm enjoying the characterization, the story, the mystery, the central mystery here.
55:27 --> 55:29 [SPEAKER_03]: And ultimately, you know, why?
55:29 --> 55:30 [SPEAKER_03]: How?
55:32 --> 55:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, is this going to conclude, uh, so yeah, really looking forward to the next episode.
55:37 --> 55:41 [SPEAKER_03]: So for me, five, paint me like one of your French boys out of five.
55:41 --> 55:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Fantastic.
55:42 --> 55:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Good stuff.
55:44 --> 55:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, wouldn't they go do kind of regret without that we didn't watch all of the Green Mountain movie again as apparently Hector Hammond is a major, uh, well, a secondary villain.
55:52 --> 56:00 [SPEAKER_02]: in that Green Lantern movie where Ryan Reynolds, and we didn't get past the first five minutes, as we said, recent feet, so I didn't remember that one as name came up.
56:00 --> 56:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I was just kind of going, oh, Hector Hammond, you know, the way comic books always have first initial and the last one, so they're always the same for a villain, so I thought, oh, major character, but turned out to be another smoke screen in the episode.
56:12 --> 56:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, excellent stuff.
56:13 --> 56:18 [SPEAKER_02]: John, I think we need a drink over in the Rushville bar, so let's go for a Rushville redneck barquise.
56:19 --> 56:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely welcome back to the Barquiz fellow quizzes and fellow lanterns.
56:26 --> 56:37 [SPEAKER_03]: We are on episode four, so of course that means we are dishing out question four, which is what are the coordinates of the satellite that targets and blows up Zoe's truck?
56:37 --> 56:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, very good, very good, and you can't just point in the air we want the actual ones.
56:43 --> 56:44 [SPEAKER_03]: There you go, don't you get the guys double by time?
56:45 --> 56:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, what are the coordinates of the satellite that targets and blows up Zoe's truck?
56:50 --> 56:54 [SPEAKER_03]: They're the ones that a very precise...
56:56 --> 56:59 [SPEAKER_03]: John Stewart gives to how to begin with.
56:59 --> 56:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Excellent.
57:00 --> 57:09 [SPEAKER_02]: That is the fourth question advice at the end of the season sent in all the correct answers to feedback at tvpodcastindustry.com and you could be in with the chance of getting your hands on some lanterns and goodies.
57:09 --> 57:24 [SPEAKER_02]: That is the same address that you send all your feedback into each week to feedback at tvpodcastindustry.com or pop on our tour group as facebook.com-groups-tvpodcastindustries or go over to our discord, the details which are in the show notes for this very episode and you can
57:24 --> 57:28 [SPEAKER_02]: see the spoiler posts there to leave your feedback at for each of the episodes.
57:28 --> 57:32 [SPEAKER_02]: So with that said, let's get some feedback from our fellow guardians jump.
57:32 --> 57:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, first up we have some email feedback from Coffin Vodgo, who says, Greetings fellow Fenderbender Defenders.
57:39 --> 57:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, they felt they had to make up for missed current content after last week, so we've got Zoe supposedly still alive and the prime candidate as the man hunter.
57:50 --> 57:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Helen John's relationship status is officially complicated, while Sinestro and Hal seem to be in a Hannibal-lector loop.
57:58 --> 58:07 [SPEAKER_03]: The Guardians seem almost too anxious to have the ring passed on to John, and the radio silence between them and how is a bit suspect.
58:08 --> 58:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Most of the series plots and subplots have become decidedly gray with little to no good versus evil comic elements, who is what and why with only four episodes to go.
58:19 --> 58:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's to hoping they're able to land this season satisfactorily, but for now, loving every
58:28 --> 58:35 [SPEAKER_03]: boring solutions and bantering lanterns out of five pieces and take a coffee and vodka.
58:36 --> 58:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Great stuff, coffee and vodka, loving the old Richard picks, which sure I have to take credit for that.
58:42 --> 58:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, coffee vodka, I had to amend what you'd put in there because I can't put it into our podcast at the moment, but Richard picks is a good, a good substitute, I think.
58:51 --> 58:51 [SPEAKER_03]: I think so.
58:51 --> 58:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, indeed.
58:52 --> 58:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I like boring solutions for the for the boring machine and bantering lanterns as well.
58:58 --> 59:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I mean I would also cough in vodka can have been agreement that the plot subplots have become decidedly sort of obscure, as you say, and
59:12 --> 59:14 [SPEAKER_03]: it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
59:14 --> 59:28 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it is in this one as right to say, you're kind of going, you know, maybe this manhunter isn't evil, maybe it's the aliens, you know, maybe it's the guardians, maybe it's all three of them.
59:28 --> 59:29 [SPEAKER_03]: So you never know.
59:30 --> 59:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Ultimately, it's probably earthhood come out on the wrong side of it.
59:35 --> 59:36 [SPEAKER_03]: So what exactly?
59:40 --> 59:42 [SPEAKER_03]: is John being manipulated.
59:42 --> 59:43 [SPEAKER_03]: So who knows?
59:44 --> 59:49 [SPEAKER_02]: That might be interesting after two more minutes of speculation is that it's Zoe and Leanna.
59:50 --> 59:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Both the manhunter, because we haven't seen them both in the same location at the same time.
59:54 --> 59:55 [SPEAKER_02]: We saw Leanna at
59:56 --> 59:59 [SPEAKER_02]: appear in the middle of John's hotel room.
59:59 --> 01:00:06 [SPEAKER_02]: And we believe that Zoe has disappeared out of the, uh, out of the vat truck before I blew up.
01:00:06 --> 01:00:08 [SPEAKER_02]: So maybe she has that ability as a manager.
01:00:10 --> 01:00:10 [SPEAKER_02]: So there you go.
01:00:10 --> 01:00:11 [SPEAKER_02]: You theory.
01:00:11 --> 01:00:15 [SPEAKER_02]: You hear me coming every 30 seconds here on TV podcast industry.
01:00:15 --> 01:00:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, coffee and vodka for your thoughts.
01:00:17 --> 01:00:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, thanks, coffee and vodka.
01:00:18 --> 01:00:20 [SPEAKER_02]: That's popping over to Discord.
01:00:20 --> 01:00:23 [SPEAKER_02]: First up, Joe Herbst has a great episode.
01:00:23 --> 01:00:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Lots of info.
01:00:24 --> 01:00:28 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't expect we'd get confirmation of the or a manhunter's identity already.
01:00:28 --> 01:00:34 [SPEAKER_02]: I like that the show wasn't setting up one big mystery, but instead multiple smaller ones about the whole situation.
01:00:34 --> 01:00:42 [SPEAKER_02]: seems like this season's progressing rather quickly, but then I wouldn't surprise me if we soon have a whole episode flashback to Hal's past, like we did for Johns.
01:00:42 --> 01:00:45 [SPEAKER_02]: That seems to be one of the things that Linda Loft does pretty often on a show's.
01:00:45 --> 01:00:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Great stuff, Joe.
01:00:46 --> 01:00:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I definitely suspect we're going to have a big flashback to Hal and how he got to the point where he is now.
01:00:52 --> 01:00:58 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we've got a good 30 years of him being the lantern to cover, which I don't think they're going to save till season two.
01:00:58 --> 01:01:03 [SPEAKER_02]: I think they're going to give us a good reason why he is the way he is now.
01:01:04 --> 01:01:12 [SPEAKER_02]: what his relationship with Sinestre was like when he was in training with him and we'll see a funny and more fun side of Hal Jordan, I think, and that flashback episode.
01:01:13 --> 01:01:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
01:01:14 --> 01:01:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, definitely great feedback, Joe, thanks for that.
01:01:20 --> 01:01:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Certainly for sure, it feels like we've blinked and already we're halfway through the season.
01:01:25 --> 01:01:26 [SPEAKER_03]: So here's
01:01:34 --> 01:01:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Second series of lanterns could be in the making, but we'll see, but yeah, thanks for the feedback, Joe.
01:01:43 --> 01:01:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely, thanks Joe.
01:01:45 --> 01:02:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Also on Discord, Philippe Gurgle says, I was a little worried when I opened HBO Max and saw Guy Gardner in the thumbnail, but fortunately it wasn't a spoiler, another great episode and really enjoying this kind of slow-paced series.
01:02:00 --> 01:02:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
01:02:01 --> 01:02:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
01:02:02 --> 01:02:04 [SPEAKER_02]: I was laughing on IMDB.
01:02:05 --> 01:02:13 [SPEAKER_02]: When the series started, it said Guy Gardner, who's the character played by Nathan Fillion in Superman.
01:02:13 --> 01:02:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Guy Gardner would appear in eight, sorry, in seven episodes.
01:02:16 --> 01:02:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And then after the first episode went, it went down to six episodes.
01:02:19 --> 01:02:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Then it went down to five.
01:02:20 --> 01:02:22 [SPEAKER_02]: It's ahead to four episodes because this four episodes left.
01:02:22 --> 01:02:24 [SPEAKER_02]: And we have no idea how many episodes.
01:02:24 --> 01:02:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Nathan Fillion's going to be in Bush.
01:02:26 --> 01:02:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was absolutely convinced that we would see Guy Gardner this week in this week's episode, Bush.
01:02:32 --> 01:02:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Still not there.
01:02:34 --> 01:02:36 [SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's, no, it goes hasn't arrived, not yet.
01:02:36 --> 01:02:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
01:02:37 --> 01:02:43 [SPEAKER_03]: I, to be honest, I'm still, It's not say Guy Gardner played by Nathan Philly and can't work.
01:02:44 --> 01:02:45 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not actually anything about that place.
01:02:45 --> 01:02:48 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just the look of Guy Gardner from Superman.
01:02:49 --> 01:02:53 [SPEAKER_03]: I just wonder whether that would work here, but then having said that they did, Dean.
01:02:54 --> 01:02:58 [SPEAKER_03]: will make him and the naked paintings.
01:02:58 --> 01:02:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
01:02:59 --> 01:03:00 [SPEAKER_03]: It could quite easily.
01:03:00 --> 01:03:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:03:00 --> 01:03:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:03:01 --> 01:03:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
01:03:02 --> 01:03:03 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the indefinitely right.
01:03:03 --> 01:03:04 [SPEAKER_02]: I definitely agree to him.
01:03:05 --> 01:03:09 [SPEAKER_02]: We also have some feedback on discord from parallel who says, I enjoyed this episode.
01:03:09 --> 01:03:12 [SPEAKER_02]: The story progressed rather quickly and that brings special effects or grace.
01:03:13 --> 01:03:17 [SPEAKER_02]: So, Sinestro is manipulating how against John, the gardens are manipulating John against how.
01:03:18 --> 01:03:23 [SPEAKER_02]: If Zoe is the manhunter then she is a construct according to lore, is she manipulating John as well?
01:03:23 --> 01:03:23 [SPEAKER_02]: What for?
01:03:24 --> 01:03:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Just to get rid of the two of them?
01:03:25 --> 01:03:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I found the episode quite darkly shocked.
01:03:27 --> 01:03:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I had to watch it again in the evening to see what was going on.
01:03:30 --> 01:03:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Given howls experience and great reflexes shown in the last scene, his and John capture at the weedy felt rather out of character don't you think?
01:03:38 --> 01:03:43 [SPEAKER_02]: As I always look forward to hearing your take on this, four efficiently slaughtered cows out of five for me.
01:03:43 --> 01:03:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Excellent, Paolo.
01:03:46 --> 01:04:04 [SPEAKER_03]: I know what you're saying about their capture was really quick and I think it was more that the high tech weapon, whatever that darkness being fired from it, it wasn't just simply that it made the room murky and they couldn't see it deactivated the ring and it prevented it from
01:04:10 --> 01:04:17 [SPEAKER_03]: both of them are ultimately just men sat in front of William Macken with the ring on the table.
01:04:17 --> 01:04:21 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's only by from wearing that ring.
01:04:21 --> 01:04:25 [SPEAKER_03]: So I think so I didn't really take it as being out of counter.
01:04:25 --> 01:04:32 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just they came across and were faced with the new tech that they weren't expecting and that happened to deactivate
01:04:33 --> 01:04:35 [SPEAKER_03]: their power through the ring.
01:04:35 --> 01:04:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and these guys are fully trained as well.
01:04:37 --> 01:04:39 [SPEAKER_02]: They're in a really surprised situation.
01:04:40 --> 01:04:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I do love just before that when Hal sets off the silent alarm.
01:04:45 --> 01:04:47 [SPEAKER_02]: The pressure point is not something they can.
01:04:47 --> 01:04:51 [SPEAKER_02]: They both kind of go what waste area, oh that was a good movie wasn't.
01:04:51 --> 01:04:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Trying to think which one they meant is that is that lethal weapon when we have
01:04:55 --> 01:05:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Mertal stuck to his toilet because he's sitting on a pressure bomb and he can't get off the toilet without the help of of Riggs Mel Gibson's character, who pulls up off the toilet and the toilet explodes.
01:05:07 --> 01:05:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Remember in the way the weapon won, so I wonder was it that?
01:05:10 --> 01:05:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Or was it Indiana Jones?
01:05:11 --> 01:05:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Where he's weighing up the the waist of the sand in a bag to
01:05:17 --> 01:05:18 [SPEAKER_02]: I know exactly.
01:05:18 --> 01:05:24 [SPEAKER_03]: I'd love to know exactly which reference that is, but I'd say it's a little weapon.
01:05:24 --> 01:05:28 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like that's the body cup comedy that's the two of them.
01:05:28 --> 01:05:31 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a nice little touch within the the weenie.
01:05:32 --> 01:05:32 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
01:05:32 --> 01:05:33 [SPEAKER_02]: It was.
01:05:33 --> 01:05:33 [SPEAKER_02]: It was.
01:05:34 --> 01:05:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Excellent stuff.
01:05:34 --> 01:05:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks so much, Palo, for your feedback.
01:05:36 --> 01:05:37 [SPEAKER_02]: And thanks everybody for your feedback.
01:05:37 --> 01:05:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Keep sending it into us each week.
01:05:39 --> 01:05:41 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be chat and all the basics on next week's episode as well.
01:05:42 --> 01:05:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, thank you so much fellow lanterns.
01:05:44 --> 01:05:50 [SPEAKER_03]: And of course, quizzes as well for coming back to us for this week's episodes.
01:05:50 --> 01:05:55 [SPEAKER_03]: We are going to be back next week with the fifth episode of lanterns.
01:05:56 --> 01:05:59 [SPEAKER_03]: So, heading into the second half of this series.
01:05:59 --> 01:06:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:06:01 --> 01:06:03 [SPEAKER_03]: And this right from director for this episode.
01:06:03 --> 01:06:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Looking forward to it.
01:06:04 --> 01:06:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Very much, unfortunately, speaking again next time.
01:06:07 --> 01:06:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, thanks so much for the lanterns, guardians.
01:06:10 --> 01:06:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Until next time, of course, keep watching, keep listening, and of course, keep shining a light.
01:06:16 --> 01:06:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Bye.
01:06:16 --> 01:06:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Bye.