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[00:00:05] Batch Season 3 Episode 10 Identity Crisis and Episode 11 Point of No Return.

[00:01:00] Welcome back fellow batches to our two-parter podcast where we are looking at the Bad Batch

[00:01:27] Season 3 Episodes 10 and 11 Identity Crisis and The Point of No Return. I am one of your hosts, John.

[00:01:36] I'm your host Derek, Chris unfortunately unable to join us for this double episode this week.

[00:01:40] We need to put that in quite a lot now. We do unfortunately.

[00:01:43] Can we get Chris to record this in a grovly way? Yes, we should actually. I'm not here this week.

[00:01:49] Yes, I put that in there. But if you do want to hear more, Chris, he is podcasting with me

[00:01:53] on Invincible at the moment. We have our final episode coming out next week on Invincible Season 2.

[00:01:59] So if you do want to hear more of him, we'll be recording that later this week.

[00:02:02] And also we'd love you to get in your thoughts and your feedback on the full Season 2 of Invincible

[00:02:07] which we'll be recording on that podcast. But that's the other animated show that we're

[00:02:11] covering. A little bit more violent than Bad Batch. But I will say these episodes are

[00:02:16] quite adult of the Bad Batch. These two episodes are very adult. Very dark. I mean

[00:02:21] really kind of very dystopian in a way. And yeah, it was really, really good. I mean, especially

[00:02:31] with Identity Crisis, you know, it really is just from the point of view of the Empire.

[00:02:36] There are no current or previous Bad Batch members in that episode at all.

[00:02:42] But maybe a future Bad Batch member. Well, maybe. We'll get into it.

[00:02:47] Interesting. Very interesting. What have you spotted that I obviously have from the episode?

[00:02:54] It's not that deep. I'll get into it as we get to the point.

[00:02:56] Absolutely. Before we get into our spoiler filled discussion though of these two episodes,

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[00:03:56] those questions that'll be coming up after our discussion about the episode. Yes, Derek,

[00:04:01] with that kick us off with some of the episode details, please. Well, executive producers

[00:04:06] for the show are Brad Rao and Jennifer Corbett. These two episodes were written by Amanda Ross

[00:04:11] Munoz, the 06 and 7th episodes of The Bad Batch as well. Nice. Nice one, Amanda. Yeah. And episode

[00:04:18] 10 was directed by Saul Ruiz and episode 11 was directed by Nate Villanueva who both directed

[00:04:24] many episodes of The Bad Batch in the past as well. Indeed they have. John, do you want

[00:04:28] to tell us what they gave us with your synopsis for The Bad Batch season three episode 10

[00:04:32] and season three episode 11? Sure. All over the Empire, children revealing false sensitivity are

[00:04:38] snatched up and delivered to Tantis. With Nala Sey's imprisonment, Hemlock reluctantly promotes Emery

[00:04:45] Carr to her vacant position and familiarizes her with Project Necromancer. Witnessing the

[00:04:52] Callus Brutality with which the children are treated as specimens, Carr slowly becomes

[00:04:57] disillusioned with the Empire and the righteousness of her work. Meanwhile, facing the cancellation of

[00:05:03] his project's funding, Hemlock learns that his clone assassin from Teth has obtained intel on

[00:05:09] Fee after interrogating Sid and sent him after her. The clone assassin infiltrates Fee's ship

[00:05:16] during a checkup and hacks her navigation computer, learning about Amiga's whereabouts

[00:05:21] on Pabu. Just as The Bad Batch proposes to leave the planet, the assassin arrives and confirms their

[00:05:27] presence, destroying the Marauder and calling in an Imperial strike team. With their means of escape

[00:05:34] cut off, the rest of the batch try to evade their pursuers while Hunter leaves to steal a gunship.

[00:05:40] But after Hunter fails, Amiga decides to surrender herself, both to spur the people of

[00:05:46] Pabu and to enable the batch to chase her to Tantis. Crosshair's attempt to plan to track her

[00:05:52] fails and the assassin leaves with Amiga on board.

[00:06:16] So hope the replacement is worthy of being the Marauder's replacement?

[00:06:21] Yeah, absolutely. That's kind of been their home for the last couple of seasons outside of Pabu.

[00:06:28] All they've got left are a pair of goggles and Amiga's toy now of their home.

[00:06:33] Yeah, Lothcat plushie.

[00:06:36] So much merchandise in the galaxy far, far away.

[00:06:39] There certainly is. But will we get into our blaster points, John?

[00:06:43] Absolutely. Let us kick on with our blaster point number one.

[00:06:53] Simply titled Cad Bane.

[00:06:56] Welcome back, Cad Bane.

[00:06:58] Yes, with cocktail stick in mouth. I wonder if it had a cherry or an olive before him?

[00:07:05] I feel at one point it was cigar that was that was drawn into his mouth like

[00:07:10] like or a cigarilla was it that Plenty's should used to have as the name and in the westerns

[00:07:15] because that's the kind of look Cad Bane always has.

[00:07:17] Yeah, definitely.

[00:07:18] Out of the good, the bad, the ugly.

[00:07:20] Well, absolutely. But Cad Bane doing the machinations of the empire in sort of being

[00:07:28] well first off, the creatures that the four sensitive kid which is effectively

[00:07:36] ratted out by ball face as far as I can see.

[00:07:40] But yes, the spider appendage neighbor.

[00:07:44] I think it's someone that you wouldn't want to live beside.

[00:07:46] No, not really.

[00:07:48] And he seems quite disappointed with the amount of credits that he gets for that intel.

[00:07:54] I wondered what that was about.

[00:07:57] I was thinking about that.

[00:07:58] It's I actually think it's not particularly disappointed by the amount of credits

[00:08:01] he gets. It's the way they're thrown at him.

[00:08:04] It's almost like I don't know whether you get it.

[00:08:07] You've disrespected me somehow.

[00:08:09] Like the Bible story of Judas where he sells out Jesus and gets the pieces of silver

[00:08:14] thrown at him and then suddenly realizes what have I done here?

[00:08:17] This is what this is what I think the neighbors got because it's really like from

[00:08:20] Cad Bane as he walks past it's just like thanks for the tip and just throws the money in his

[00:08:24] face. It's not even like congratulations.

[00:08:27] You've done something amazing for the empire.

[00:08:28] It's like look what you've done.

[00:08:30] You've sold out your neighbor.

[00:08:31] You know, you've left your neighbor on the floor and her child has been taken away from

[00:08:34] what she sleeps through.

[00:08:35] Absolutely. Even the other two people at the market where the child's abilities

[00:08:39] sound to get realized by their neighbor are kind of like don't say stuff like that.

[00:08:44] You know, it could be all amounts of trouble.

[00:08:47] They can tell but they're smart enough not to say anything.

[00:08:52] I mean interestingly I was like did Cad Bane kill the kid's mother?

[00:08:56] No, I think he knocks her out so she's going to wake up from a child being stolen.

[00:08:59] It's only on the second time that I watched this that I kind of saw the blue stun rings

[00:09:04] that you normally see from the Stormtroopers blaster.

[00:09:08] Exactly.

[00:09:08] So I think it was that she was literally stunned rather than killed but the first time I was like

[00:09:16] oh this is really dark and you know killing her mom.

[00:09:20] Murder the mom and steal the child.

[00:09:22] Yeah, that would be really dark.

[00:09:23] So I was like okay.

[00:09:25] But still pretty bad I guess like waking up to your child being gone as

[00:09:28] you know would you want to be just dead as a parent?

[00:09:30] You know, he's taken away from her own while she's knocked out.

[00:09:35] Interestingly just because of the complaint that we had last week about

[00:09:38] not complaint but the comment that we made last week about Asajj Ventress putting

[00:09:43] Omega through all of these tests to see if she had a high Mkent.

[00:09:46] Cad Bane came prepared with his Mkent tester like the one Qui-Gon Jinn used on Anakin

[00:09:52] back in The Fat of Menace so he has that tested kit and it takes him about three

[00:09:57] and a half seconds not an entire episode to check if this kid has the high Mkent.

[00:10:01] Yeah, I mean I think Jedi or former Sith just run differently really don't they?

[00:10:08] They have to do it the hard way.

[00:10:10] Yeah.

[00:10:10] At a really you know so that they know it's not just that they need to do a little sort of

[00:10:17] blood test type thing.

[00:10:19] I think you'll find that would be beneath them.

[00:10:21] I think you'll find Qui-Gon Jinn was quite an experience to Jedi when he tested Anakin's

[00:10:26] go up.

[00:10:27] Yeah that's true actually.

[00:10:28] But Asajj Ventress may just not have had the equipment on board she wasn't going out

[00:10:33] trying to find people with high Mkent.

[00:10:36] It seems like Cad Bane has pretty much traded in this for quite a long time.

[00:10:40] Yeah.

[00:10:41] We heard Fennec Shan saying that she's never taken one of these jobs to find

[00:10:44] someone with a high Mkent.

[00:10:46] I wonder now if Fennec realized that it was children that were being stolen

[00:10:51] and decided that she wouldn't partake of that.

[00:10:54] Yeah maybe maybe and interestingly you know he's

[00:10:57] he says later on in the episode yeah I'm good at this you know when

[00:11:01] Emery Carr asks him how many he's gotten he says well I'm pretty good at this.

[00:11:07] And that's a nice little reference back to season two of The Clone Wars the episode

[00:11:13] Children of the Jedi where he's also capturing young links Jedi young links as well.

[00:11:20] So yes he's got a long history of

[00:11:22] basically I guess punching below his weight.

[00:11:28] Well absolutely.

[00:11:28] I mean they're not as such they're not risky bounties that he's doing because they're

[00:11:33] children primarily.

[00:11:35] Yeah unless they use the force on them or know how to use the force.

[00:11:38] Unless they know exactly but generally they don't.

[00:11:43] Yeah exactly.

[00:11:44] I would think because they may not know how force sensitive they are anyway at

[00:11:47] least not these children that have been brought to Tantis.

[00:11:51] Certainly not this baby effectively and interestingly when he meets up with Emery

[00:11:56] Carr to hand over this force sensitive child.

[00:12:00] Interestingly Emery Carr asks him where the child is from.

[00:12:04] Yeah.

[00:12:05] And Bane's response is asking questions like that will reveal more intention than you

[00:12:10] wanted to reveal and he doesn't tell her so this child has no idea where its home is it's

[00:12:15] only a baby and nobody else does either the the tie has been severed effectively by

[00:12:21] Cad Bane not revealing so this child is now on the other side of the galaxy not knowing

[00:12:25] any way to get home to its mom.

[00:12:26] Well that's it yeah no idea.

[00:12:29] Awful dreadful but still great to see Cad Bane back.

[00:12:32] Oh definitely.

[00:12:32] I love to see on screen.

[00:12:33] He's a great character great character.

[00:12:35] And also Kelly Cools seeing Toto is heavily put upon droid played once again by Seth Green

[00:12:42] in there but yeah I did like that sequence with Toto is like I'm not

[00:12:45] a nanny droid but yeah again another plushie placed to keep the the kid from screaming you know and then

[00:12:54] I guess but they just lock it up in a like it looks like a pet travel basket but even more

[00:13:01] lockdown than than that so yeah like it just sound proof it.

[00:13:06] You could and that would be the end of it I guess.

[00:13:09] So maybe a small kindness from Cad Bane to give it its teddy bear.

[00:13:13] Toto even.

[00:13:14] Toto to give the teddy bear.

[00:13:15] Yeah exactly.

[00:13:15] Yes yes but.

[00:13:16] Cad just wants it shut off.

[00:13:17] No exactly but with speaking about Emery Carr let us get on to our blaster point number two.

[00:13:30] Yes the promotion of Dr Emery Carr on to Project Necromancer.

[00:13:38] Yes chief scientist that is the easiest promotion opportunity I've ever seen.

[00:13:45] I wish I had work interviews like that or I could just go I want to be Secretary General.

[00:13:51] Yeah absolutely sure I've worked by you by your side trust me yeah no problem here you go

[00:13:55] I'll take the keys to the castle.

[00:13:57] Here's the pay rise.

[00:13:58] Excellent.

[00:13:59] Would be nice.

[00:13:59] That would be nice.

[00:14:00] Here's the pay rise no extra work for you you're doing all already.

[00:14:03] Yeah that'd be awesome and so maybe there is benefit of working for the Empire done.

[00:14:07] Absolutely.

[00:14:09] Career opportunities come up quite often and sometimes the leader of the Empire will

[00:14:15] strangle someone in a position that you wanted to attain.

[00:14:18] Loads of opportunities in the Empire for promotion.

[00:14:23] Here is where I reveal that I believe that Emery Carr might be someone that could join

[00:14:29] the Bad Batch in the future she's a clone she's been working in the Empire she's becoming

[00:14:33] very disillusioned with the Empire so by the end of this episode I feel she at least will be

[00:14:39] an ally to the Bad Batch in the future because her position is turning but I do wonder if she

[00:14:46] may even join the Bad Batch in the future.

[00:14:49] Yeah that's a possibility now that you say it.

[00:14:51] She's got them goggles that old tech used to have.

[00:14:54] She does have them goggles and certainly as the course of this episode goes on from

[00:15:03] the treatment of the the children that are already part of Project Necromancer.

[00:15:11] So I mean two levels here there's assets in the sub level container chamber which so we

[00:15:17] haven't seen that.

[00:15:18] That's right.

[00:15:19] So I thought actually when Hemlock was taking Dr Carr actually to the vault I thought

[00:15:26] we were going to see that space with all the canisters that presumably are housing something

[00:15:35] that we're going to see that and then all of a sudden it was like a nursery and I was like

[00:15:40] oh.

[00:15:40] It's like waiting at a second foot.

[00:15:42] Yeah that's happening.

[00:15:43] Where's the vault?

[00:15:43] Yeah the vault sounds much more or should much more secure and intimidating than the

[00:15:50] sub level container chamber but I guess that yes it is what it says on the tin.

[00:15:55] Tons of containers containing something or someone down there but ultimately he has

[00:16:04] We haven't seen it yet.

[00:16:05] No and he has shown her that he does discuss that but because when Emery speaks to Nala say

[00:16:13] she does say well then you would have seen the sub level containers.

[00:16:17] Okay I missed that.

[00:16:19] But there she we only really get to see her in the vault with the children which means that

[00:16:28] that sub level chamber is going to be really spicy.

[00:16:32] It has to be.

[00:16:32] Yeah it has to be.

[00:16:33] Sourcy even I think.

[00:16:35] Maybe.

[00:16:36] Are you hungry?

[00:16:37] Maybe.

[00:16:37] Okay thought so.

[00:16:39] Chickeny even.

[00:16:41] And also we did see Dr Hemlock looking at some containers in a higher chamber so that's not

[00:16:51] what's in the vault he was looking in.

[00:16:53] He takes a lift down from it and then says to Emery Cara going down to the vault so

[00:16:58] there's a third location.

[00:16:59] It's not the one with all the hieroglyphics on the floor which is where we saw the

[00:17:03] emperor at the start of this season.

[00:17:06] Exactly.

[00:17:07] It's actually the kind of almost conning tower that tower within the structure and that is

[00:17:16] where we saw the clone assassin first of all when I commented that he was showing some shins.

[00:17:25] He was at the bottom of the elevator of the lift where Dr Hemlock takes it down but

[00:17:31] we do see Hemlock looking in one of them closing it up.

[00:17:36] We don't see what's inside it and then he's looking at his data pad and it looks really like

[00:17:40] the operative or the assassin and then he tells the operative later in the episode that

[00:17:45] none of his fellow operatives are available to do the or ready to do the job.

[00:17:49] Yeah they're not ready.

[00:17:49] They haven't cooked enough.

[00:17:50] Yeah so it seems like there's a few of them in there waiting to go at some point

[00:17:55] Yeah definitely.

[00:17:56] I'm getting ready so anyway.

[00:17:57] But actually one of the reasons why I said it was very dystopian this is because just the

[00:18:05] treatment of the children.

[00:18:07] I mean we have Emery Carr still having that kind of emotional side to her which in

[00:18:13] a sense she does begin to interact with at least one of the children through Eva because

[00:18:20] Eva is trying to talk to her.

[00:18:22] Yes.

[00:18:22] But it's how Hemlock really says you know limit your social interactions with the children.

[00:18:31] They're nothing more than scientific assets.

[00:18:34] Yes.

[00:18:34] You know the specimens when asked why is it children because they take to the

[00:18:39] experiments better and that it's easier to be subjugated for them to be subjugated.

[00:18:48] And it's that dystopian divorcing of the okay humanity is obviously the wrong word because

[00:18:54] we're not human but their own emotions and life.

[00:18:58] Yeah exactly they're just to be treated like a Bunts and Burner or a test tube and they're

[00:19:06] just assets and they have worth for this project absolutely nothing more you know completely

[00:19:13] dehumanized from anything and it's something that you see Emery Carr struggle with you know

[00:19:21] she does try to do it but certainly Eva is that sort of it's that little point that's

[00:19:27] caused the chink and when she goes to see Nala say Nala say push us a you know what will

[00:19:33] you do Emery you do have power here and you can do something about it.

[00:19:38] Yeah Nala say his job was to ensure that the empire didn't get Omega she was able to do that

[00:19:43] she achieved her objective and now these children will look to Emery Carr.

[00:19:48] Yeah I thought it was really on point to say to Emery Carr you have the power to stop this

[00:19:54] car saying I don't have power at all and then it just left hanging in the air with

[00:19:59] or do you do you have this power.

[00:20:02] And I mean ultimately it finishes with in a sense of Emery Carr feeling a bit crappy

[00:20:10] because Eva knows that she lied you know that they didn't keep her other cellmate Jack safe

[00:20:20] and that they just want to go home you know that this trust has kind of been lost between

[00:20:25] Eva and Carr and Emery gives her Amiga's doll that she made whilst in Tantis almost just to give that

[00:20:36] childhood back to Eva which I thought was really good again but not something that Hemlock would

[00:20:43] allow at all. Absolutely absolutely and I will give huge credit to the casting director for

[00:20:52] the show they don't have to cast many voice people for the show generally because deep out

[00:20:56] there breakers are so many voice cast but here the casting choice for Eva is the cutest child voice

[00:21:05] I've ever heard it's like it's just perfect it's just the way she goes Dr Carr will you tell

[00:21:14] me how I can get home will you look into that for me you know. It's kind of like the

[00:21:18] Simpson spelling bee episode where as soon as Eva sort of says anything everyone's like

[00:21:27] yeah absolutely perfect casting but you know it is they just want to go home I think you

[00:21:33] know you can actually deduce that Nala say well you're only here temporarily you will get home

[00:21:38] eventually but I mean even to the point where Jack does try to escape from the vault but

[00:21:45] ultimately is not only stun blasted by one of the guards but is isolated then for two rotations

[00:21:54] and you know as punishment so you know and this is why Eva knows that Carr lied to her because

[00:22:04] Jack's wasn't kept safe and he was just trying to get home so this is really a depressing

[00:22:10] predicament for these three kids well especially because we've seen Tantas we know how difficult the

[00:22:16] facility it is to escape we know the planet outside is a very dangerous place to be and

[00:22:21] Jack's kind of believes at the end of the character or there's a door that will get him out

[00:22:24] and get him home he's on a different planet he probably woke up in the same way as the child

[00:22:29] did getting there woke up after being knocked out and stolen from his planet he has no idea

[00:22:33] what's between him and the outside world exactly a lot more levels than you think Jack's yeah

[00:22:39] but yeah so the promotion and dare I say it the descent into rebellion of Dr Emery Carr here

[00:22:48] I think so I think so there's just one other thing that I want to talk about in this in this point

[00:22:55] I know this is awful finding out that the empire are stealing children who have a high

[00:23:00] m count from their families and bringing them into this experiment effectively we'd mentioned

[00:23:07] last week that we had a theory that what was happening with Amiga's blood was that the emperor's

[00:23:11] blood was being put into it what's actually happening is it's these kids blood with the high m count

[00:23:17] and it's being able to be sustained in her blood so that means they can clone

[00:23:23] high m counts yes which is the test for the emperor in the future right that's that's

[00:23:28] the way it's happening it's not they're using the emperor's blood they're using these kids

[00:23:31] bloods to do it but I do want to say because we were talking about after watching the episode

[00:23:37] I do want to say one of the things that is hardly ever talked about really is that the Jedi do that

[00:23:42] did this as well when the Jedi was at the height of its power they also took children from their

[00:23:46] families that's true before they were fully grown a kid like Anakin who was about eight or nine

[00:23:51] when we meet him first was considered too old to train by the order they have to get special

[00:23:56] dispensation to train him all the other kids that were in the Jedi order it was more consensual

[00:24:02] though wasn't it I mean they were given the choice if I remember well the youngest kids that are brought

[00:24:09] to the Jedi are brought as babies who exhibit some high level of m count and then are trained in

[00:24:15] the Jedi ways the Jedi order now is gone so the empire are now taking these kids for their

[00:24:20] purposes but it's just the reason why I say it is because there has been a lot of stories a

[00:24:24] lot of extended universe stories in Star Wars and they kind of talk about that that the kids don't

[00:24:29] know their families they've been put into this order a religious order almost that's telling them

[00:24:34] how they must live their lives they can't have relationships all that kind of stuff I think

[00:24:37] there's even a quote about Obi-Wan Kenobi not knowing whether he has a brother or not he has

[00:24:43] a vague memory of a brother yeah before joining the Jedi order fine line isn't it between good

[00:24:49] and evil so or they just both evil or evil justified as good depending on how you spin it well yeah

[00:24:57] it's a complicated gray area much more complicated than it was for kids we just thought they picked up

[00:25:02] laser swords and were Knights of the Republic excellent good point well made yes there you go

[00:25:08] but with the crumbling of all we know about the Jedi after Derek's little assertion let us move

[00:25:16] on to blaster point three

[00:25:22] yes so blaster point number three the Transdotion feed the pirate and the operative

[00:25:29] harking back to yes where Hemlock is talking to the operative we get to hear very briefly that

[00:25:36] he has interrogated the Transdotion aka Sid that's right yes no return of reaperman

[00:25:44] this season so far but yeah it looks like Sid eventually did turn on the bad batch which we

[00:25:50] had suspected she might all the way back to first meeting her we heard many times don't trust her

[00:25:56] from a number of people around the bad batch but they have left they've gone off well she brought

[00:26:00] the Empire to her bar I mean she has betrayed them anyway that's true I can't imagine the

[00:26:06] interrogation involved sort of you know knuckle screws or sort of you know slicing and dicing

[00:26:14] in any way no you know but certainly you just never know because he said interrogation and the

[00:26:21] operative is you know does come up across very menacing when he says it yes it does interesting

[00:26:29] she's ultimately pointed to feed the pirate here as one of Amiga's associates or an associate of the

[00:26:39] bad batch yes with which he should follow up on that lead and hemlock gives him you know that

[00:26:47] permission certainly doesn't want him to fail again he believes he's already failed him once

[00:26:51] so it is certainly being fairly tough with his operative but interestingly this whole

[00:26:59] discussion with the operative it's very immediate after a conversation with Tarkin yes the consummate

[00:27:06] accountant for the empire you know always concerned about financing resources and whether there are

[00:27:15] the right outcomes I mean it sounds like my day job to be honest yeah mine too but interestingly

[00:27:24] he's saying you know if they doesn't give the outputs then it will be pulled and it won't be a good

[00:27:32] thing for hemlock either I mean Tarkin's quite you know menacing here to hemlock and it won't

[00:27:37] bode well for you either absolutely and interestingly though I also feel as though

[00:27:42] Tarkin was fishing for information here in that he doesn't he knows this project is on his books

[00:27:50] but he also hasn't been given the clearance by the emperor this is a very small group here

[00:28:00] that truly know the project and the experiments that are going on at Tarkin's

[00:28:07] and you're right I think it does feel like it rankles with Tarkin that there would be any information

[00:28:12] that he would not be privy to the emperor would trust someone like Dr. Hemlock over him

[00:28:16] that's an interesting one isn't it yeah definitely because you know Tarkin has always been

[00:28:21] that character that climbs the wrongs and he's he wants to be at the top of the empire

[00:28:26] effectively so um so that's that's quite interesting to see him here so quite interesting

[00:28:31] but later on then in episode 11 point of no return we see the operative stalking fee as she

[00:28:41] goes to um get her ship filled up with fuel do you know I thought this was so smart yeah he's not

[00:28:48] there to interrogate her he's not there to get the information out of her he goes straight in

[00:28:54] um surreptitiously onto her ship to take her navi computer access it break her encryption

[00:29:02] and find out what planet she's visited often um as his way of finding where the bad batch could

[00:29:07] possibly be absolutely so it's interesting isn't it because all of that is very tech you know

[00:29:13] this theory that tech could be um the clone yes not echo sorry about that again yeah and yet

[00:29:22] more so in this episode in episode 11 I found the operative sounding more like cross her with

[00:29:35] with it the sound distorted yes and also in the intonation of how the operative delivers

[00:29:43] lines especially later on once he has reconned pabu and felt very cross her and then all of a

[00:29:51] sudden I was going and of course then you really you know you realize and it's in plain sight all

[00:29:56] the time that the operative carries the sniper rifle it is yeah sniper blaster yeah and I suppose

[00:30:05] one of the theories we've had early on this season as well um we'd seen that hand tick

[00:30:10] that cross her has so is the new theory that potentially he's a clone of cross her yeah

[00:30:18] and because he's been cloned cross hairs having this reaction in the p of the ptsd that you know

[00:30:26] from all the procedures being done yeah there you go so potentially the reason why we haven't

[00:30:31] seen their faces we thought it was because they brought tech back that actually they haven't brought

[00:30:35] tech back they've cloned cross hair interesting theory John I like it a lot absolutely and I mean

[00:30:42] if they found tech and he hasn't decomposed enough okay potentially if there's a viable sample who knows

[00:30:52] it could be tech yeah yeah I'm so we'll see no it could be another set of clones that you know

[00:30:59] might be in the evil mind of dr. hemlock to do clones of tech as well so another theory maybe

[00:31:08] in the bank never who that could possibly be because we still haven't seen the face of the

[00:31:11] operative yeah we're still calling him the operative they're not being very clear but I see

[00:31:16] I see that theory that he could possibly be cross hair yeah absolutely me too and just one final

[00:31:21] thing at this point as well because it should be mentioned that feed while she doesn't catch the

[00:31:27] operative and doesn't know for definite that someone's on board she does have a suspicion

[00:31:31] oh yeah absolutely and gets called away it's that feeling that she gets and hunter has one as well

[00:31:37] before all the stuff goes down oh that's just that's a hunter move no absolutely and but yeah

[00:31:43] with with fee she also realizes you know whether it's that the air has gone colder you know it's

[00:31:48] almost like this operative is the ring wraith from the lord of the rings and all the all the

[00:31:53] spiders and the centipedes and all the other creepy crawlies all sort of trying to escape

[00:31:59] this evil yes and and fee has just picked up on it there but he does manage to escape and get

[00:32:05] off her ship before she realizes because ultimately she was interrupted by the robot ollie

[00:32:13] with with the bill well basically yes the bill comes to yeah and interestingly ollie is voiced by

[00:32:20] the actor who voiced anakin skywalker throughout the clone wars as well madland yes yes so just

[00:32:28] shows you that even though he's playing a different character um he's still on the side of the empire

[00:32:32] right he's still do it does anything to protect the empire uh kind of yeah not knowingly though

[00:32:39] or is it he hears the alarm and doesn't feel that there's an alarm going aboard in a ship he just

[00:32:44] kind of shrugs his shoulders as as some droids do like um the the operative manages to turn it off

[00:32:51] and he's like okay maybe it wasn't like yeah whatever in the fuel line maybe thought he set off the

[00:32:55] alarm but i think he did yeah i tried to um fuel up the ship don't you be besmirching old ollie

[00:33:02] poor robot i'm besmirching madlander who played anakin skywalker who didn't see turning into

[00:33:09] darth vader i do know that he's done nothing but voice ollie yes that's true that's true

[00:33:17] i think that's it for our blaster point three channel let us get into our blaster point four

[00:33:29] yes it's recon at pabu as the operative heads on over to pabu in the outer rim

[00:33:39] were using the same place as a sarge ventris from the previous episode to sort of hide

[00:33:46] his spacecraft yeah and i mean no ventris got to the planet without anybody

[00:33:50] yeah and detecting her there and their ships have a lot of different gizmos as well he was able

[00:33:56] to interfere with the marauders tracking system so that it appears as though there's nothing

[00:34:01] coming from the ocean towards the island we see that um very good so almost has a stealth mode

[00:34:08] because i was wondering you know it's a real weak point um for ships uh with people that

[00:34:16] you know the bad batch don't want to ever come to pabu to sort of infiltrate into pabu or onto

[00:34:23] the island and so i was thinking oh hunter you should have put up sensors in that cave after

[00:34:28] after sarge ventris yes but last no he's not see yeah i'd be a better on turn

[00:34:35] well that's why i would have done they are they are more taken up with getting off the planet

[00:34:41] they are realized that pabu is not safe after the discussion with asajj ventris and last week

[00:34:46] and are packing everything up to leave pabu so i think that's the major concern one small

[00:34:52] trip from omeget to leave stuff in the uh in the historical archives that are kept on pabu

[00:34:57] we learned about that when we saw pabu the first time um that they because everybody here is running

[00:35:02] from the empire they've left all their societies so they have one central place where they store

[00:35:08] meaningful items that represent their home and represent who they are so here we have um omega

[00:35:14] leaving the goggles of tech and her teddy bear as we mentioned hello cat plushie her mouth cat

[00:35:20] plushies you mentioned a plushie loads of plushies yeah in the galaxy far far away yes with uh

[00:35:26] and the i guess the ma of pabu whose daughter uh liana um yeah and i mean yet you see actually as

[00:35:35] well you see i think the three young clones as well from earlier in this season yes enjoying ice cream

[00:35:42] because reka actually fancies a nice cold ice cream because he is the one um lugging all the

[00:35:51] supplies and rations onto the marauder in preparation for their departure and a little help from

[00:36:00] gunky or maybe just a little bit of yeah a little grumpy but i think gunky is criticizing because

[00:36:05] i like that reka gets into um you know full blown argument with and really says well

[00:36:12] i'll leave you behind you know yeah i think gunky has said well you could always leave

[00:36:17] yourself behind obviously there's no love lost there between old gunkster and uh reka even though

[00:36:24] gunky was as i've been saved at least three times by reker and again in this episode yeah yeah maybe

[00:36:31] it's the manner in which reka seems to save him remember the last time he was he was upside

[00:36:35] down and reka's back wasn't even being carried through the forest uh when the when they met the

[00:36:39] three clones uh last time but it is a nice moment just seeing the three the three young

[00:36:43] clones being on paboo again this place is such a paradise and they have found a much better place

[00:36:48] than where they were when uh when hunter and reka found them at least at the start of the episode

[00:36:53] absolutely and then hunter gets that sort of feeling that something isn't right and it's

[00:36:58] immediately we need to go like he's he's very much right we can't stall any longer we've

[00:37:04] got to go and in them getting ready to leave making their way through town to get to the

[00:37:10] marauder the operative does get his confirmation gets gets his eyes on amiga and uh calls in the

[00:37:19] the strike team from tantis that he's already put on a standby ready to come and then fires

[00:37:28] the explosive devices onto the marauder i can't believe they've destroyed that ship

[00:37:34] i know it's such a cool ship yeah really like it um but i again it's just another touch you know we

[00:37:40] mentioned before some of the things that's really cool about bad batches when you see

[00:37:43] the characters using their special abilities seeing crosshair being able to use his amazing

[00:37:48] snipering ability is always cool seeing hunter recognize the kind of movement in the air

[00:37:54] that determines there's something going on here and i know it's only a tiny one but seeing

[00:37:58] wrecker realize that there is explosives nearby it's almost it's almost what happens it's like if

[00:38:04] anybody else have been there maybe they wouldn't have noticed it but he's so attuned to explosives

[00:38:08] that exactly notices instantly and is able to save himself and gunkies and he does wrap old

[00:38:13] gunkster up in his arms because he really like yeah as then the explosion throws them into

[00:38:22] the water yeah but the point is that the operative has managed to lay eyes on amoeba confirm

[00:38:30] confirm that it's her and get the message to um back to tantis absolutely and put record to a

[00:38:37] calmer too yeah yeah unfortunately i know unconscious record taken out of action

[00:38:42] for what is to come which i think leads on to our blaster point number five

[00:38:55] yes a prediction comes true job the empire

[00:39:02] yes yes you predicted that at some point in the future of the season we would see

[00:39:06] a massive imperial ship in the skies of pabu did you know was only going to be an episode

[00:39:13] and a half later like no i didn't but it was very kind of definitely knew that the empire was going

[00:39:19] to arrive yeah but i love i do love these scenes of okay it's not a star destroyer it's one of

[00:39:26] the clone warships and the sort of proto star destroyers which i can't quite remember now

[00:39:32] what the name of the north should look that and but you know ever since you had that star destroying

[00:39:38] hovering over and the city in the desert in rogue one you know having star destroyers

[00:39:47] in atmosphere low level really really cool and they're so menacing and like with and or

[00:39:54] with the menace of the star destroyer going through you know through the atmosphere and also then

[00:40:00] and thrones star destroyer with the at the witches tower the soca on the other side of the galaxy

[00:40:09] it's just so such a great look yeah so menacing as well you know so again we get this

[00:40:18] for pabu yeah it's just a sheer volume of troops that come out of the ships as well you know

[00:40:23] there's a massive amount of drop ships that are coming in all with you know five or six troops

[00:40:29] inside them and the entire town of pabu the entire village of pabu is just completely

[00:40:36] overwhelmed by it's real blitzkrieg type tactics loads of ships coming down from above and they blow

[00:40:47] up the skiffs the fishing skiffs and I've got a space and seaships to cut off their escape routes

[00:40:55] they jam the comms and effectively lock down the town and start going from house to house to try and

[00:41:02] find the bad batch and move effectively at this point sort of duct and run for cover

[00:41:08] yeah and in order so that to evade capture from them but i mean you know it's slowly

[00:41:15] it reminds me of the line from andor you know the empire slowly sort of strangling the galaxy and

[00:41:22] this miniature on pabu yeah absolutely it's tiny correction because I think it's

[00:41:28] kind of important as well the operative actually says they're there to find omega if the others

[00:41:33] get in the way kill a ball yeah eliminate eliminate yeah so um so they're not there for the batch

[00:41:39] it's just omega that they want to take which is really brutal it's dark days at the moment

[00:41:43] in the bad batch yeah with everything going on and I mean yeah it was it was really efficient

[00:41:50] the the empire coming down and doing this but I kind of really liked how it played out then you

[00:41:56] know where you have hunter trying to find a way to get off the the planet by trying to get

[00:42:05] hold of one of the drop ships the transport ships that have come down and you have wrecker being

[00:42:14] taken to azim you know so they can get medical attention and omega and crosser but all you know

[00:42:22] kind of together just trying to evade capture yeah but ultimately I love the fact that here we

[00:42:29] have a meager then the realization that she is willing to give herself up here and to surrender

[00:42:37] because they you know she knows for definite they are there for her and she doesn't want

[00:42:46] the people of pabu or indeed her brothers um to to suffer in any way so is willing to give herself

[00:42:56] with a plan that she has a tracker on her person and that crosser will shoot a tracker

[00:43:05] onto the ship that takes her off planet in case they take her tracker away yeah but again I love

[00:43:11] how crosser is kind of like but you don't want to go back to tantis you know that's that's where

[00:43:17] they're going to take you that there's the too many variables around the tracker it's not certain

[00:43:23] and he's kind of trying to sort of dissuade her from going but ultimately you know there is this

[00:43:30] huge moment where she willingly gives herself over to the empire and to the operative yeah

[00:43:37] and also um she says the major reason is because they're trying to get back to tantis and

[00:43:42] they've tried everything they can think of to find the coordinates for tantis and they can't get

[00:43:47] them which makes it even more concerning that they take her calm away almost immediately exactly as

[00:43:53] as crosser predicted and while under attack from stormtroopers crosser misses the tracker on the

[00:44:00] ship yeah he's just too late I feel like those stormtroopers haven't spotted him he would have been

[00:44:06] able to get the tracker onto the operatives ship yeah and where it goes straight into the drink

[00:44:12] yeah he failed it was just too um too late for him to get the aim yeah right because I loved how

[00:44:20] you know you saw if the ship had stayed where it was it possibly would have connected with it yeah

[00:44:26] and but the ship was taking off and so all of a sudden was out of range and were crosser had

[00:44:32] aimed at so yeah really harsh certainly seeing um amiga in the the the ship again almost doing

[00:44:41] a bit of a Jedi thing there like almost going into a meditative look to me and you know maybe

[00:44:48] it was just to keep herself calm yeah and so on rather than anything particularly um force uh wise

[00:44:56] but um you know probably hoping that a tracker had gotten on the ship from um crosser but sadly not

[00:45:04] so yes at least she has hope um you know I'm even more concerned like we saw her bad

[00:45:09] it was for her last time and she pretty much had the run of the facility and now let's say

[00:45:14] they're helping her out but now they know her worth they've worked out that she is massively valuable

[00:45:20] for them as a specimen as an asset and we've seen how they treat the kids who were specimens in last

[00:45:25] episode so just going straight to the vault yeah no chance of plush quarters somewhere else on the

[00:45:31] tantis but uh straight do not go do not collect your 200 quid straight to the vault straight to jail

[00:45:36] yeah I mean the other thing as well as quickly on this final point when the empire arrives

[00:45:42] you know hunter sort of getting onto the drop ship really really good but again the operative kills

[00:45:48] the pilot yes and doesn't aim for hunter which is kind of interesting but with the aim ultimately to

[00:45:54] crash the ship into the sea and that hunter dies but hunter does manage to sort of uh

[00:46:02] get himself away from the plummeting vehicle and manages to get out of the drink

[00:46:09] safely you know I was absolutely convinced I'm glad you were talking about this because I was

[00:46:13] absolutely convinced that after hunter gets out of the water you know we hear that conversation

[00:46:17] between the operative and the and the troopers around him where he says he's taken care of two

[00:46:22] of them which will be wrecker who's uh who's in a coma and hunter who is taken out of the air

[00:46:27] it sounds like he thinks hunter is dead and then hunter meets up with um batcher who's

[00:46:34] did a little attack himself on the troopers well it's on the batcher saving some of the

[00:46:37] people from taboo but I was convinced that the two of them would join together find the operative ship

[00:46:43] and get aboard um so that they could go with them hide up hide aboard they could go with them

[00:46:49] find out where tantas is I thought that was just how it was all going to play a the credit

[00:46:52] was some role at the end and then hunter arrives back with uh with crosshair and uh and wrecker

[00:46:59] and realizes that amig is gone and i'm going oh okay so they have no plan here there's no

[00:47:03] ability here and they have no way of finding tantas because they've tried all their methods

[00:47:07] to find tantas when he got out of the the seat and he was met by uh batcher yeah there no i had

[00:47:14] the same feeling that he was somehow going to be stowed away uh on the operative ship or he's putting

[00:47:20] his own tracker on jaz hands surprise uh you know and here's my pet batcher bites his face off

[00:47:26] exactly but yeah alas no alas yeah it seems like they're so they are back to square one

[00:47:33] effectively here yeah without omega i'm her being going going back to tantas now oh

[00:47:39] yep dark dark couple of episodes but overall john what did you think of the episodes

[00:47:44] I absolutely loved um these these two episodes I for identity crisis episode 10 I gave that four

[00:47:52] and a half scientific assets out of five really bleak really dystopian I liked actually that

[00:48:00] there was this moment of the empire point of view or maybe emory cars to some extent as well

[00:48:07] I really like that it just showed you the bleakness of I guess the empire really as did then

[00:48:16] episode 11 uh episode 11 I gave the point of no return four and a half flaming skiffs

[00:48:24] out of five I think in total both of these I'd give five out of five you know I'd give five

[00:48:32] ice cream cones out of five you know um I thought they were really really good really strong

[00:48:39] overall for the two of them yeah and just so yeah it just all quite bleak and I mean the bad

[00:48:46] batches a upper creek without a skiff anymore so um yeah yeah I really enjoyed these two episodes

[00:48:57] I loved how omega stepped up though you know it felt real absolutely mature this coming of age here

[00:49:05] and cross her you know really kind of concerned about what she's proposing there and I kind of

[00:49:10] really liked as I said just getting to see hemlock out with emory and emory's uh slow sort of um

[00:49:19] realization of the reality of her work you know absolutely especially from that little

[00:49:26] meeting with gnarless say yes who's still locked up yeah absolutely fantastic two episodes Derek

[00:49:32] what about yourself yeah there were really really good episodes this uh this moment here

[00:49:36] four episodes from the end of the season and uh all hope is gone um yeah you know I am kind of

[00:49:42] glad they didn't destroy pabu which was something that we were suspecting was going to happen

[00:49:49] especially with the arrival of the empire here at at pabu they didn't destroy it it wasn't

[00:49:53] burnt to the ground or something like that the fact that omega stands up to save them

[00:49:59] because everything was looking very dark uh there for the people of pabu and so I think there's even

[00:50:05] that moment with um with the operative who says hang on a second all I've done is destroy your

[00:50:09] ships I can do a lot worse I will burn down all of your homes I will end it for everybody here

[00:50:15] if you don't give me a minute it's one of those moments where you go okay pabu's getting a garrison

[00:50:19] of stormtroopers yes you know that could still happen though yeah yeah absolutely but no another

[00:50:25] really really good episode and yeah I'm loving this uh can't believe we've got four episodes left

[00:50:29] of the of the entire show it's yeah it's gonna fly by it is it is but I need a drink after that

[00:50:35] episode I need something to calm me nerves john let's let's head over to the cantina yes absolutely

[00:50:40] letters go there fellow quizzes fellow batches to the star wars bad batch cantina quiz

[00:50:47] we have two questions um for this cantina quiz for episode 10 and 11 yes let us kick off with

[00:50:57] our question 10 what specimen designation are Eva and jacks known by

[00:51:05] I promise I'm not going to give a clue of this one no you're not it's the reason why

[00:51:08] we didn't mention it during the episode but but one of the numbers indicates how many

[00:51:13] cad bane may have actually taken it's quite a high number yeah considering its children with

[00:51:19] four scalable abilities it's quite a high number the cabine could have brought in especially if only

[00:51:23] certain uh benti hunters are capturing uh kids with most definitely so um so yes two of them there

[00:51:32] john do you want to get the question one more time yes what specimen designation are Eva and jacks

[00:51:37] known by great stuff uh what's the question for episode 11 for question 11 how many explosive

[00:51:46] devices does the operative shoot onto the marauder how many explosive devices does it take to destroy

[00:51:52] a marauder effectively yes i'm sure everybody was watching really closely there to that one so

[00:51:58] they should have that number john question one more time how many explosive devices

[00:52:02] does the operative shoot onto the marauder great stuff that's question 10 and question 11 to add

[00:52:08] to the other questions that we've asked throughout the season so far you can find all of those

[00:52:12] questions over on our website at tvpodcastindustries.com there's a pub quizzes button up at the top

[00:52:17] just click on that go into the bad batch cantina quiz and you'll see all the questions in there

[00:52:22] put all your answers together at the end of the season email us into feedback at tvpodcast

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[00:52:31] bad batch funk up ups yes absolutely let us move on to our feedback on these two episodes

[00:52:40] first up on facebook dr bob philip says darkness falls the kidnap emotional abuse and objectification

[00:52:48] of children followed by a witch hunt with the batch outgunned and outplayed can the doll motif

[00:52:54] be the way we see hope maintained as the terror sweeps across the galaxy will paboo if it survives

[00:53:01] think about getting better security in that sea cave will emory manage to keep up gnarly says work

[00:53:08] and hide amiga's true mutational capabilities in time excellent stuff um well that is it the

[00:53:17] doll motif certainly i think represents hope uh here and and softness i guess i know it's made

[00:53:24] of straw and the wonder of memory which is not that soft no exactly and it really is the the

[00:53:30] darkness falling i mean that objectification i think it's just it really plays into that sci-fi

[00:53:38] dystopian stuff that always intrigues me i'm always fascinated by it and and indeed you know

[00:53:45] what you can see back from the 1930s um with science and where you know experiments were being

[00:53:53] done on people new things being done you know and not being told about them or against their will

[00:53:59] and it really plays into that and i think um you know it's it's so dystopian for you know as we always

[00:54:07] say an animation but it does deal in that and that is just the reality that batch deals in this

[00:54:14] darkness in a way that actually is really accessible and has the little motifs of hope as

[00:54:21] you say dr bob and so yeah good stuff but i do think the line of the two episodes that is the darkest

[00:54:28] of all is where they're doubt dr hemlock saying that the reason why they choose children is because

[00:54:32] they're more agreeable to subjugation it's just such a dark way of describing why they don't use

[00:54:39] adults for this um and of course you know they don't have that many adults as options anymore

[00:54:43] because they've killed a lot of the jedi yeah definitely yeah i totally with you on the

[00:54:49] ck of security um even some kind of massive pork hullis on something just to stop

[00:54:58] infiltration onto the island maybe a massive radar that can't be tampered with yeah absolutely right

[00:55:04] on the top of the hilltop some of the monotreries all the time definitely thanks dr bob yeah thanks

[00:55:12] so much dr bob we also got some feedback in from rossel hooper who says sad sad episodes did

[00:55:18] my eyes fool me or did crosshair miss the shot at the ship as he as it left how do the residents of

[00:55:23] pabu not notice yet another ship coming in okay i'm gonna rant once you remove the four to five

[00:55:29] minutes of credits each of these episodes is only 20 minutes not acceptable for what you're charging

[00:55:33] us disney the previous comment may or not necessarily reflect the opinions of feelings

[00:55:36] of tv podcast industries though they should will hunter be angry with crosshair for following

[00:55:42] omega sacrifice play it was great seeing my favorite bounty hunter cad a fistful of credits

[00:55:47] bane perhaps ventris will team up with the batch to save amiga i doubt it but that would be fun i

[00:55:53] definitely won't happen it definitely won't happen if rex shows up with echo the first episode

[00:55:58] just shows how cruelly evil and wicked palpatine and his empire truly are tarkin complaining

[00:56:03] about costs is his death star proving to be a bit more expensive than planned already maybe he

[00:56:09] should have backthrawns tie defender project instead very good russell yeah absolutely and

[00:56:16] yes you are absolutely correct and your eyes didn't deceive you and crosshair did miss the ship it

[00:56:25] plopped into the water at the end so amiga is on the way to tantis and the bad batch

[00:56:31] still do not know where tantis is so it would be interesting to see how that one plays out

[00:56:38] and yep i love you noticing just the true evil and wickedness of the empire and palpatine but also

[00:56:49] it is manifest in this objectification and dare i say it the accountant like

[00:56:55] this of tarkin it's the fact that he just deals everything in numbers nothing and is given

[00:57:04] reality or meaning or emotion it is all about the numbers but maybe russles right that the death

[00:57:11] star is costing a lot of money i would say it probably is yeah some of the funds are diverted

[00:57:16] was what he specifically said some of the funds were diverted by the empire from their planned

[00:57:20] yeah intended place to uh to dr headlock so uh it maybe he's just specifically annoyed that

[00:57:27] that 100 grand or 100 million credits has gone from his plans of the death star yeah over to

[00:57:33] over to the plans of hemlock so yeah as for the cost of disney i'll be honest we pay for

[00:57:39] paramount plus and i don't think i've watched anything on that since the last star trek show

[00:57:42] finished um so so that's our fault for paying that uh disney at the moment we've got uh this

[00:57:48] show of course we got uh got the bad batch um we've got extraordinary which we're watching

[00:57:53] as well great comedy show yeah i'm sure we're really enjoying snowfall final season of snowfall

[00:57:58] yeah and we've got uh we've got shogun of course so um so we actually do get a lot of bang for our

[00:58:03] book for uh for disney yeah disney is fine it's paramount it's paramount problem prime we've

[00:58:10] got a lot on there as well uh netflix we're kind of running out a little bit prime also delivers

[00:58:14] parcels as well which is another reason for having prime it does it does um oh we just learned

[00:58:20] that we know what the next animated project that's coming out from from star wars um just while

[00:58:24] we were recording uh the trailer for star wars tales of the empire uh was announced coming six

[00:58:32] episodes coming on may fourth of course may the fourth be with you yes so that's not that

[00:58:36] long away so just i think it's the week after the bad batch finishes so the six episodes would

[00:58:40] be out um tales featuring morgan elspeth yes grand admiral thron grand abel thron of

[00:58:46] thron of course mentioned by rossel there um and old darthy waffy well he does is in there but

[00:58:54] i think the stories themselves feature barris offrey who was a former jedi um who was the reason why

[00:59:02] asoka tano got kicked out of the jedi order or was investigated by the jedi order and left

[00:59:08] the jedi order so uh yes becoming an inquisitor it would seem exactly exactly i think i've got

[00:59:14] barris offrey's name right i get really confused because we've got a place in island called barris

[00:59:17] and offrey and they do mention her name as offre in here and i think it's barris offrey so uh just

[00:59:24] i may have to be corrected on that but anyway that looks really good six episodes season coming on

[00:59:28] may fourth excellent we also have some feedback from lazer winrich who says what a twist the

[00:59:35] marauder is destroyed before its lego set came out resting pieces din jaren's razor crest

[00:59:42] first i had my heart melted by the toddler who's cooing instantly reminded me how much i

[00:59:48] miss little grogu talking then i cringe when i heard those familiar boot steps cad bane is more

[00:59:54] frighteningly animated than he was in live action maybe he mellowed with age the emotional

[01:00:01] roller coaster continued when eve tried to start a conversation with emory could her voice

[01:00:06] have been any cuter but i came crashing down heartbroken when eve said emory had lied to her

[01:00:12] and this was only part of the emotional trauma the writers gifted us this week

[01:00:17] i can't put into words how i felt when omega left behind text glasses and wreckers plus

[01:00:22] amiga's lulu doll on a positive note it is always wonderful to hear steven stanton's

[01:00:28] voice as talking saw in the credits that zeb steve blum played a stormtrooper and villager

[01:00:34] number one will have to go back and listen for him great stuff thanks lisa yes thanks so much lisa

[01:00:41] yeah i completely agree around the marauder i am sure there was a lego set that came out i there

[01:00:47] was it was called the bad batch attack shuttle yeah i came out a couple of years ago um and had

[01:00:53] just the five members of bad batch so i think it was coincided with their appearance in the

[01:00:57] clone wars rather than the bad batch tv show yes okay yeah it was it was named the marauder

[01:01:04] in the show as far as i remember at some point but it was just called the attack shuttle back then

[01:01:08] grand okay yeah but the reference there that uh that these has to gingeren's razor crest it was

[01:01:13] basically that they had put it up for sale available to buy and then in uh in the show it

[01:01:19] got blown up about two weeks before that got released to the public so everybody put their

[01:01:23] pre-orders in to get his brand new ship and then it was blown up on the show exactly yeah so

[01:01:28] i wonder is there a marauder uh planned i wonder was there is there like a so it's a great looking

[01:01:34] ship yeah cool ship it really is rest in pieces for sure yeah absolutely yeah interesting they're

[01:01:41] seeing uh steve blum who played zeb on rebels uh voicing the storm trooper he's actually been

[01:01:46] on the credits for the last couple of episodes every time we've seen a storm trooper i think it

[01:01:50] is actually steve blum that plays the storm trooper voices okay excellent yeah they don't do too

[01:01:55] many of them um we've seen a few of them uh they don't get that many lines but it's great to see him

[01:02:00] in there and in an episode where we have um matt lanterback who played anakin skywalker as we

[01:02:05] mentioned is kind of cool that they're bringing back some of the old cast from all the different

[01:02:09] animated shows yeah definitely yeah and i'm sure we'll see more of them in the future

[01:02:13] yeah yep hopefully we'll see live actions ebb and uh in a soca yeah i really hope so

[01:02:18] we have seen them live action in one episode i think it was obi one i think so i just can't

[01:02:23] remember there's so many of them yeah well it certainly wasn't andor it certainly wasn't a soca

[01:02:28] yeah and i think it was obi one yeah yeah yeah so hopefully we'll see him back in a soca season

[01:02:33] two to reunite with the rest of the rebels that have been appearing in that show yeah definitely

[01:02:38] or maybe in the mandalorian of course it might have been or a book about the first yeah in one

[01:02:42] of those shows one of those i just can't remember now for the life of me but you're

[01:02:47] totally right leis it's an absolute emotional roller coaster of two episodes this weekend

[01:02:52] thanks for the wonderful uh trauma gifting from the writers this week excellent stuff thanks so much

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[01:03:23] star wars the bad batch episode 12 from season three juggernaut which is out on april the tenth

[01:03:31] what's the juggernaut on? sounds like it's gonna be a big thing yeah sounds like it's gonna be a

[01:03:36] crash um big thing yeah yeah big thing okay right no speculation then good stuff thanks so much

[01:03:42] for joining us we'll tell you next time yes thanks so much fellow batches until next time

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