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[00:00:00] This is the Bad Batch on TV Podcast Industries, we're back with two episodes of the Bad Batch,

[00:00:04] Bad Batch Season 3, Episode 6, Infiltration and Season 3, Episode 7, Extraction.

[00:00:30] Send the coordinates and prepare for the recovery strike team. The girl must be taken alive.

[00:00:36] Undisturbed.

[00:00:38] Welcome back, fellow Batchers! Two TV Podcast Industries. We're talking about the Bad Batch.

[00:00:59] Two episodes this week, a big double episode, Infiltration and Extraction. We will be spoiling everything about both,

[00:01:04] so make sure you watch both before you listen to the podcast. I am one of your hosts, Derek!

[00:01:09] And, rounding out this group of two... Yes, no John this week and I wanted to make sure I got the spoiler warning

[00:01:17] before I even gave my name just in case I spoiled that we don't have three of us on the podcast this week.

[00:01:22] I was just more going, we extracted John and infiltrated with nothing. He is currently infiltrating a different country.

[00:01:33] He is. But away for a few weeks now, but we'll be back next week in time for the next episode of The Bad Batch.

[00:01:40] But he's missed a big one here. I guess what I say straight up front, how cool is it that John was absolutely right to watch out for the guy in leggings

[00:01:48] in the first episode because he becomes very important in this episode. So lots of credit to John for going back on the background over there.

[00:01:54] Actually lots of credit to the animators for showing that that guy on the background still there enough

[00:01:59] that you could pick a mate from the beginning right? Yeah exactly. It's just like, and freeze, and move forward.

[00:02:06] Exactly. But what a way to spend a massive week for The Bad Batch two huge episodes here and really really fun to have a look at right there.

[00:02:16] Oh great. I watched the two of them the first time back to back. Literally just went literally, I did the skip credits go straight in.

[00:02:27] And then the second time took a break. I enjoyed it more the second time when it has a bit of time to breathe because there's a lot in these episodes.

[00:02:37] And also, deep, bad, the baker just like he's 90% of this episode.

[00:02:46] Yeah. He's just like, so do you know what? Yes, you're going to get paid the same amount but we're going to give you at least 10 other people to voice in this episode.

[00:02:56] Absolutely. Okay with that. Yeah. It's massive isn't it? I wonder does he have any challenges picking up new voices for the new characters are picking up all voice some of the characters here, you know we haven't seen since the Clone Wars some of the characters here we haven't seen for two seasons of The Bad Batch.

[00:03:10] And they all send really distinctly to such a great job and I think literally the cast list for this episode are three people.

[00:03:16] It's just himself Michelle Ang as usual. And then there's one other actor who does the voices a stormtrooper in the episode and everybody else is deep right the baker.

[00:03:25] That's it. The there is the senator, the original female. Sorry in the first episode of sound to you to your absolute right sorry in the second episode. It's just three of them. Yep. Yeah. There's actually loads more in the first episode.

[00:03:38] To hear that butchers I was right. You're right absolutely speaking of which fellow batches if you want to hear crispy rice many, many more times make sure you subscribe to the podcast.

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[00:04:32] Yeah and with all that said in done because that was a lot said in does I need to breathe there for a second.

[00:04:39] Derek do you want to tell us who gave us what way we're going how with your episode details for six and seven absolutely executive producers of the show are of course Brad Rao and Jennifer Corbett

[00:04:51] and Jennifer Corbett is well and directed by so Lewis. So of course for episodes as big as this we have the executive producers of the show the creators of the bad batch Brad Rao and Jennifer Corbett playing a huge part along of course with story the lead story editor as well involved in the two episodes so that makes sense right.

[00:05:17] Yeah well like that's the thing very much this is Jennifer's baby this has been she has kind of shepherd these story lines along and yeah Matt's kind of trimming the fur off he's giving it the old kind of like sheep herding kind of sheep sharing element to get that fine wool out and get it ready but no like this is when you see those names.

[00:05:42] You know straight away that this is going to be impactful this is a big thematic piece for the batches yeah and I'm not talking about our friend batch or our wonderful list or still.

[00:05:55] Yeah overall yet no it's great to see all of them involved kind of really pulling this absolutely I kind of get the film that's why they keep those credits till after the episodes over so you don't get surprised or you do get surprised by sort of things happening the episode if you know

[00:06:12] front Jennifer Corbett's writing it something big's happened in this episode you know and but Chris do you want to tell us what they gave us with the synopsis 4 episode 6 and episode 7 infiltration and extraction sure senator sing of Raxas has a contestine meeting with Republic Senator Chuchi to discuss the possible unification of the Emperor's adversaries but they're not alone a sniper sent from Tantis by Dr. Hamlock target senator sing waxing his team of former clone troopers

[00:06:41] capture the sniper and bring him back to their base on teth for questioning they learn that sing wasn't the only target Omega is on that list too. Rex invites the bad batch to teth but when they arrive across air he is confronted by house one of the survivors across his attack on Ryloth

[00:07:00] he deflects house his questions and explains the experiments on Tantis and the elite operatives loyal to Dr. Hamlock

[00:07:09] before they interrogate the captured operative further a second operative arrives and kills him and learns of Omega's whereabouts

[00:07:17] a team of clone troopers are dispatched to pick up Omega but the operative goes rogue in his pursuit of his mission the bad batch and echo narrowly escape as cross air takes out the operative and Rex convinced the clone troop leader wolf to let him go

[00:07:32] as a team rendezvous with Gregor and more in the loss of Rex troops he tells hunter there's only one way out of their predicament.

[00:07:39] The need to learn why Omega is so important to the empire.

[00:07:43] Oh yes, you know that I'm can't they never knows is important but what is it why is it important absolutely absolutely it's interesting isn't it because we have of course Rex back here who would have been around someone with a very high

[00:07:56] M. Kent and since he worked side by side with Anakin Skywalker back in the film works right so he knows all about M. Kent's doesn't he?

[00:08:04] Well, that's a thing so they're all think they all said oh I've heard that name before I heard that you know okay yeah no like you're meaning into it

[00:08:11] I was actually listening who was talking about recently

[00:08:16] another podcaster I'm gonna say Mark Bernard or Kevin Smith but definitely would be Mark Bernard over Kevin Smith

[00:08:22] I think he's watching by but but it could have been someone else they were talking about how this opening

[00:08:29] kind of version of season three is perfectly kind of tying in a night neat bow some of these

[00:08:36] they're reckoning some of the unlike aspects of say the the sequels and I'm like I don't like that term yeah I like this is like they

[00:08:46] they they made a story and here what we are seeing is the expansion of that story exactly really across the rest of the universe and the timeline

[00:08:55] and that's what's making this so palatable and that's even palatable I mean appetizing just so scrumptious coming down because we're like I like to the whole idea of the clowns again

[00:09:08] like this my thing I like clones I like the idea like we knew clones were a thing in the the brequels so why not make them a part of the sequels

[00:09:20] so seeing this here the M kind seeing the what has happened what goes on to happen to the rest of the batch 2 X and that I'm really enjoying

[00:09:33] that time that we are spending with them and this to episodes back to back felt like a good 45 minutes I want to say mini movie but it was almost like

[00:09:46] it's not even it's like a war film is kind of like escape from Bob a lot tower or something kind of thing one of those old tiny kind of war films where they're in a fortress deep behind

[00:09:58] Emmy blinds in in the access and you're like they have to escape the Nazi fortress yeah but there's also you know as as happens quite often with the bad batch especially because we know this is the final season as well

[00:10:11] there's lots of call backs lots of character being brought together that are will eventually end off together and happen this episode I'm sure we'll talk about it as we get a bit deeper into our discussion about the two episodes here

[00:10:22] but but what are the things I'm sure we said it before maybe a maybe a lot earlier on the podcast but one of the reasons why the Clone Wars as a concept is like so much is because when we were kids watching star wars for the first time and hearing ob 1 say to Luke Skywalker

[00:10:36] I fought alongside your father in the Clone Wars and then we got the prequel movies and those battles in the Clone Wars were about 15 minutes of the movie

[00:10:44] and that's what we all wanted to see we got eight seasons of that on screen in these animated adventures of Anakin Skywalker and ob 1 alongside all of the clones so this is fulfilling what we thought we were going to see when we watch the original prequels

[00:10:59] and now with the bad batch they're filling in stories that will eventually play as in the future of the Star Wars universe which is really exciting them but that's what's so interesting they can expand and fill in things that they may not have had time in the big movies to do so it's what's always

[00:11:15] always exciting to see in the animated shows yeah 100% and boy how do you think animation good oh yes always is always is absolutely I do feel like this season is they they kind of planted their flag this season they've really kind of went you know we know

[00:11:31] we know this is our last so let's go out with Iraq yeah and they're going for that Oscar animation hope so hope so yeah definitely because it is it is as I say revisiting some places that we've been to before at which we'll talk about when we get in here so we have direct comparisons to previously animated versions of it in the Clone Wars as well so

[00:11:49] so you can see the two things side by side as we go into it and speaking getting into it should we get into it with our Blastpoint number one yes we should yes

[00:12:02] one day our signboard is going to break and I'm going to do the pew pew pew pew pew

[00:12:08] it's some dates always that last pew is very silent

[00:12:11] pew pew pew pew pew pew I like that with a lot I like it a lot and well I first Blastpoint really let's talk about the meeting of Senator Tucci and

[00:12:20] Senator Singh in the opening of the episode this clandestine meeting between the two of them where they're being protected by Rex and his former clone troopers

[00:12:28] and I really like just the setup of this where you don't really know who's who's meeting who and the reasons behind it but some of the kind of

[00:12:35] bigger overarching elements are really interesting about this you know and senator Singh we saw back I think it's season one of

[00:12:42] the bad batch and he was on the completely opposite side to senator Tucci back then senator Tucci works for the Republic she is

[00:12:50] the Republic she is at Republic Senator he would have been working for the separatists back during the Clone Wars to completely opposing sides

[00:12:57] and now they're sitting down at a table to go hang on a second to the emperor is starting to gain great power here maybe we

[00:13:03] should start working together and maybe the separatist's idea was quite good to keep independent of this empire of planets

[00:13:11] right and so I really like that conversation what was going on there between the two of them oh great the way they set

[00:13:17] it up really made me feel like this was I talked about how it was like a world war two film that's the way it was like

[00:13:24] that clandestine behind enemy lines kind of I can't even think of the name just name any of those old

[00:13:31] eagle based named films and that's kind of what I feel very similar to like where Eagles deck like it's that

[00:13:38] and enemy lines to clandestine operators kind of coming together I I enjoyed this again and I don't want to bang the

[00:13:48] the drum that we've talked about but like the beginning of season two I was really into it because I was like do you remember

[00:13:57] we started seeing the growth of credits and change the internet like like oh the unified currency of the star was

[00:14:05] being born here that's cool here along with what we've seen in Obi-Wan we're seeing the birth and even beyond that

[00:14:15] in and or yeah we're seeing the birth of the rebellion they were seeing how they're all coming together this is starting to

[00:14:23] show us from a more senator kind of like the that group of people yeah the leaders de facto leaders if you will some

[00:14:34] of those are there outside of the generals and stuff those are the ones and this is what we're starting to see how they're coming these two

[00:14:39] senators and cancer which are going to come together and go you know what maybe this this emperor dude's not the greatest well

[00:14:45] exactly exactly and you know that's that's the legacy I suppose of what is happening with these discussions exactly to say

[00:14:52] it does lead into something like what we see in and or with with senators going against the Senate which is exactly

[00:14:58] what Chuchu's doing here she's making this decision to work with someone who absolutely would have been her rival in the past

[00:15:05] and if these two people are willing to work together and set up some kind of opposition to the emperor well then maybe

[00:15:11] there is hope for the galaxy right that's the that's the idea but and always in the back of your head you got to go

[00:15:16] well actually this shows taking place just a year or two after or to 66 as a bit another 10 years or so before we get to

[00:15:23] and you hope so all these people are working together right now but who's going to survive who I haven't we seen some of

[00:15:29] these characters when it gets up to and or why haven't we seen some of these characters when we get up to to

[00:15:34] uh to Rogue one you know so likely that it's not going to go great for them in the the birth of this rebellion right yeah

[00:15:42] and that's that's always the sad bit for me which I think I we joke about it just because it's animated not a lot

[00:15:50] I say not a lot of people see this a lot of people fans will see this and a lot of kind of younger generations will

[00:15:58] kind of slowly be introduced to this but let's say the standard cinema going audience will not see this yeah

[00:16:04] um yeah it's just sad to know that like unless they're going to pull the everyone gets put on to a star destroyer

[00:16:14] that gets hurtled across to the other side of the galaxy at the end and it takes the player off the board

[00:16:21] did you agree with your try to do that Chris? I don't know I don't know but then we make it that player back so they may do that

[00:16:28] like that's how we make it rid of the batch and the mega for those of you who don't know what Chris is referencing there that's how

[00:16:35] rebels ended and that's how we got one of our major characters back in a soka the live action shows so yes of course

[00:16:42] there there is a possibility that there will be a little pocket galaxy that keeps our characters held somewhere into

[00:16:48] look and be used again in a future project at some point down the line yes I can see I can see that might be

[00:16:54] the way the show will end but for a lot of what's going on here there will be action there will be a big battle

[00:16:59] in some way towards the end of the season there will be jeopardy still got another half of the season to go after

[00:17:05] where we are now so this coming together of these disparate rebel groups I suppose may end badly in the future but

[00:17:13] it's just really interesting seeing two factions that absolutely would have been opposed to each other

[00:17:18] in fact would have been opposite sides during the Clone Wars sitting down together and going maybe we should talk here

[00:17:24] that Emperor dude is starting to get a little concerned and maybe he's starting to crack down a little too much

[00:17:30] so maybe we need to work together yeah and the background there is a plot to murder senator sing with this

[00:17:37] opposite that we see that we see trying to take a match and so as we referenced earlier on John mentioned

[00:17:43] this the first episode of the season these very unusually dressed character that we saw for a split second

[00:17:49] the first episode so it comes to the four here the shadow trooper that's looking to look at the kill senator sing

[00:17:56] but is luckily taken down by by rex and troops those guys just love seeing them fight I love seeing them in battle here

[00:18:06] even with a sniper there's a great moment where the sniper comes in misses his shot twice to throw in a thermal detonator to kill

[00:18:14] everybody rex grabs and throws a back out of him really cool really dynamic really exciting love this yeah no really that take that if you had not

[00:18:23] mentioned that that's the one I would have where it was just like he does like almost a tumble roll

[00:18:28] grabs it made roll and then throws it and I was like yeah that's that's how you know these animators are kind of top of their class

[00:18:36] because they've made this we're gonna we're gonna make this look cool yeah absolutely and explosions and again really just bringing

[00:18:45] back to those war time e phones it's just like grenade in through the window yep that's kind of there we've talked about all these different shows

[00:18:55] have different fields so like and or is that kind of thriller kind of spy one kind of so it was a bit more of the fantasy kind of one

[00:19:06] and like this is very much that wartime me kind of one and the Clone Wars of course has always been a real wartime type story

[00:19:13] in this being the direct sequel to that makes sense to keep that up especially when you got your major character from the Clone Wars

[00:19:19] rex being central here as well so let's talk a little bit more about rex and some of the other characters in Blaster Point number two Chris

[00:19:26] so before we get into I have a question so yes this couple of store point is going to be about essentially

[00:19:37] the tantas experiments and clones being loyal and the loyalty of kind of those who are still to the Empire

[00:19:48] and those who are kind of going against the program the order 66 programming I will admit I was getting confused because I thought they had rounded up

[00:20:03] and they were like all of the the clones I thought like like the way that this was kind of being slowly portrayed again with tantas

[00:20:12] and the way we were getting the introduction of the storm troopers and like the way crosshairs team of clones got kind of destroyed

[00:20:22] and like all that I was getting to my opinion that was building was like most clones had been put out to pasture

[00:20:33] be it through experiments be it through that you put out to pasture we saw some of them being kind of let go in the last season

[00:20:43] and we saw a lot of them who were dead when they were war memorial last season so I was just in my head I was starting to go oh no no like most of the clones are gone

[00:20:54] right no no there's loyal ones still yeah yeah or orders orders you follow orders

[00:21:00] it's difficult in the vastness of the clone troops to know what kind of number most represents and to know what number a few represents

[00:21:11] you know so effectively what we have here is they take the operative to tether their location so we have a group of clones who are all loyal to Rex

[00:21:21] who are former formally loyal to the empire who are now working together against the empire and it still seems like a small force

[00:21:28] it's not everybody can we hear callites that Greg or is off planet echoes off planet so there could be another group of clones there

[00:21:35] there were group clones that were working with working with Rex protecting teaching sing as well

[00:21:40] so there is a force of clones who've rejected the empire after order 66 there are of course the bad batch

[00:21:48] who most of them didn't take up order 66 and it feels like anybody else who questioned that order who felt bad

[00:21:55] and sorry after they enacted order 66 has now either been captured or put out to pastures you as you said Chris

[00:22:03] but has been anybody who's questioning it seems to be taken off to tantis but that's not every clone

[00:22:08] there are still clones out there that that like good soldiers follow orders they follow the orders and have continued on that way

[00:22:15] and are still loyal to the empire and we meet some of them later in the episode but it's really good to kind of bring all that together

[00:22:22] and we get most of it from crosshair on omega when they arrive on tether to talk through Rex everything that happened to the montantus

[00:22:30] so we have that meeting up with house who we saw before in the end of season one when he was on Camino

[00:22:39] and under attack by crosshair some harsh words shared between the two of them there but we have crosshair really explaining what's going on

[00:22:49] with the help of omega where omega saying you know she there was tests going on there is experimentation going on

[00:22:55] everybody was getting their blood taken she talks about m count with them she they kind of understand

[00:23:01] what that's referring to they think they've heard about it before but then it's crosshair that brings this back in

[00:23:08] that there is a group of clones that are still loyal to the empire they try to they try to convert them to operatives

[00:23:16] he was one of the ones that they tried to convert the operatives I love that crosshair goes I guess you know I've always been defective

[00:23:24] I'm still I'm still defective and that protected him from becoming one of those one of those clones that still loyal or one of the operatives

[00:23:33] but that's where we get all of the information kind of pulled together from everything that's been happening over the last season

[00:23:39] or so and tantas so it's interesting just that we have we definitely have another clone force versus these rebel clones we should call them I suppose

[00:23:49] yeah I can't it's just that I think you put a best there for the first time which is we never know an actual number of you or a couple

[00:23:59] yeah or a pocket like yeah they're very very selective in terminology here I'm get why 100% get why yeah because they think we have to go from here

[00:24:10] to stand for storm troopers yeah so it's just it's just interesting I just kind of was like oh I did not know that many still there

[00:24:19] like yeah but yes the operatives one is interesting to me the experiments on the at turn them to operatives

[00:24:28] because I get the feeling it's like are we talking like is that what's causing crossing shakes maybe wasn't the blood being taken

[00:24:42] like was it actually like he was undergoing like kind of I want to say clockwork orange level kind of programming where like they've things in his eyes

[00:24:54] yeah it's like staring at puppy dogs going you must kill the puppy kill the puppy kill the puppy yeah or kill the bachelor kill the bachelor

[00:25:01] yeah yeah absolutely you know it feels like this is some kind of conversion therapy on him battling back against it is what caused his

[00:25:09] is what possibly is causing his shakes and there are some great shots with that operative that's been captured

[00:25:16] really felt like the Joker and Batman kind of thing the way the the lighting was above his head when he was answering back so you can just see the kind of

[00:25:24] just the lights of his eyes responding to them as they're interrogating him and then he seems absolutely just utterly violent

[00:25:32] and utterly unmission and really driven to take out all of these people who are against the empire now

[00:25:39] really liked really like those scenes there so yeah I think crosshair is someone that would be very likely

[00:25:47] to go down that path I can see whether they were trying to conversion but yeah just just love those scenes

[00:25:53] and for it to end with the arrival of a second operative yeah who effectively just shoots him straight through the heart

[00:26:02] and killed some immediately that's his first part of the mission is to take him out so I thought that was really really interesting

[00:26:08] yeah no I agree I think the for me it's the dead they enhance these operatives as well because some of these shots are above a normal

[00:26:21] tree like these are like some of the best of the best so are they or reach the logical conclusion

[00:26:29] there some of these shots are who's level of shooting crosshair yeah so is crosshair's DNA involved so I was going to say can you clone a clone

[00:26:40] of course I'm sure they've tried yeah yeah so like is it the fact that crosshair is actually the crosshair we have

[00:26:47] is not actually the crosshair it's the crosshair who was with the batch is no longer a crosshair there's not really crosshair

[00:26:54] it's crosshair V2 where he's a clone of a clone so he's that's where the shakes are coming from the degradation

[00:27:00] I don't think so I was thinking more that maybe these other troopers are clones of crosshair but the only reason I say that is because

[00:27:09] crosshair still has the marks from the burns he got on his attack so yeah so that always that's kind of your indicator

[00:27:18] it's the same one it's the trick that they've always used with the clones everybody has a certain bus cut that they keep for the entire time

[00:27:24] and there as the character except for Rex he's got a blonde bus cut now bus but no it's not blonde it's great

[00:27:31] it's absolutely great but now there's there is like this usually a stamp on them that's saying this is the look for this characters you can

[00:27:39] always pick them out of a crowd effectively so I think we're crosshair those burns that he has in the back of his head

[00:27:43] tell you it's the original crosshair that we've had since the beginning but you know what I know these things twist and certain

[00:27:48] you may be right Chris but I just wonder if the experimentation that they were doing on him was leading to better versions of the operatives

[00:27:56] he was with them a long time so maybe that it's some kind of exploration of that to give them his ability almost

[00:28:05] no that makes more sense the way you're saying it like yeah but I like the idea of clones of clones

[00:28:12] that was a fun one or kind of dropping over like his his defects but they're actually thinking about it

[00:28:20] they have to have done clones of clones because Django fact gave his blood and gave his DNA for the original

[00:28:26] clones but there's no way they could have had enough DNA to create the millions of troops that they created

[00:28:32] they must have been doing some kind of cloning of cloning of cloning of cloning at some point

[00:28:36] they must have been I don't know unfortunately I don't know cloning technology but I would assume that there are clones of clones

[00:28:44] out there anyway time well tell there you go should we go on to plus report number three then after the experiments

[00:28:52] so I'll take a little moment to talk a little bit more about the operatives themselves

[00:29:00] because they are the most interesting new bad guys I think that we've seen so far they're just so relentless in what they're trying to do

[00:29:09] you know it's like it's like opening the ante of bad guys once again they seem unstoppable even on that original attack from the first operative that we see on the planet

[00:29:18] and he's just seems to be almost termination like breaking through walls to get to his objective until he's finally taken down

[00:29:26] you know and unwilling to give up any information even though he's being fully interrogated by a proper group of clones

[00:29:35] and then the second operative that we have again willing to sacrifice the first operative you know he's the first time we see him

[00:29:42] he's being given his mission and he's going oh why have you woken me up on the minute he hears there's another operative out there

[00:29:48] he goes straight on his mission and go straight to kill him effectively so they're really interesting I think

[00:29:54] no exactly and I think part of it I'm finding most interesting about them is a lot of people talk about say that say the marvel mc

[00:30:07] you first film issue where you put a superhero against a villain who has pretty much the same subset of powers

[00:30:16] yeah like that's the kind of thing Marvel comics is the sixies yet yeah exactly like for every iceman there's a fireman

[00:30:23] so I found it very what somewhat of this interesting is thinking back on it the batch haven't had an evil version of the batch to go after

[00:30:35] like or to do or going after them and that's what we're kind of getting it you're getting what if the bad batch were kind of

[00:30:46] didn't reject their programming what if the bad batch were singular focused on mission on target followed orders

[00:30:55] and you're getting these in hat what we can assume are enhanced clones somehow like because they're definitely

[00:31:02] they're doing things that the normal Roger Roger cannon fodder style clones are not going to do the right there they're hitting off

[00:31:11] they're doing some shots at some distance there they're jumping off buildings like yeah they're the wrecks level kind of you're your heroic commanders

[00:31:23] so I found it was interesting so I'm like actually that's a nice way to give the batch their final goodbye which is hey you we're going to give you some real

[00:31:36] adversaries like someone who are on your level and it could be one but it could be like five of them ten of them

[00:31:43] and it's like go on like there's there's we already have your mission protect Omega but these operatives are on on par with you

[00:31:51] yeah yeah and I suppose for the first couple of seasons they did try that a little bit with crosshair being on the opposite side

[00:31:57] what he was going through his own journey and you know there was you know half a season would go by without seeing crosshair

[00:32:03] but on the other side these operatives seem right on mission but also there is a possibility that I think by the end of this

[00:32:11] episode and it does feel much more certain to me and that this particular operative is potentially someone that we know

[00:32:21] that we thought was damned and gone I think we were talking about obviously before podcasting about this as well and Chris I think you're

[00:32:31] you're pretty aligned up by the end of this episode feels like the operative is echo and that's going to be a big reveal right

[00:32:38] couple of years to this episode yeah very much like it's it does and I'm kind of

[00:32:46] I think I was calling this for a while I think we all work I'm kind of upset by it really yeah

[00:32:56] I think it should be upset I know I think it should be yeah but no I meant more like his death was so meaningful

[00:33:05] it's so impactful on the team on it was almost like it was how do you how do you up the anti on crosshair going to the other side

[00:33:18] we kill one of the brothers yeah I was like any and the sacrifice he made to save the rest of them

[00:33:25] mm-hmm this feels for me okay we just put someone we got crosshair back you know we need another batch around the other side again yeah

[00:33:34] and I was like now there's some things that point to this being him like in the thermal imaging of this operative it looks like he has

[00:33:44] somewhat metal legs okay so I was going yeah wow wow like how do you have metal legs you fall off a really really

[00:33:51] far thing the other thing is obviously the falling off the far far thing which you pointed to me and I didn't even make that

[00:33:59] connection yeah yeah yeah it's a the battle that we see between crosshair and and this operative towards the end

[00:34:06] of the episode it's just as he falls it seems like a very far height it seemed to be telling you look he's falling

[00:34:12] down the side of a waterfall into into fog below hand he's definitely dead and then he crawls out at the end

[00:34:18] just before credit so you're going oh okay they're telling you that and one of these characters can fall from a very far

[00:34:24] high into fog and can get up afterwards and walk away and well echo fell very far into fog we didn't see him hit the

[00:34:31] ground because you wouldn't want to draw that if you were an animator on the show but it leaves the option open that

[00:34:37] effectively this is echo but the other things as well of course is he doesn't take his is held it off at all during the

[00:34:42] episode the characters doesn't take their helmet off well either they have very distinguished features that you will

[00:34:48] absolutely know the minute they take their mask off or they don't of course it could be just they don't want they just want to hide

[00:34:53] the identity looks like everybody else and but they also had a voice modular rather I think that was the biggest

[00:35:01] take away from me so if you don't see the face the voices as modular and it gives you a little nod back to how

[00:35:08] your main character died it's very possible that this is our echo behind the mask and who has been converted as opposed to

[00:35:17] kind of counter what you're saying Chris you know it's the big thing here for crosshair is that he's come back he wasn't able

[00:35:25] to be brainwashed for one of a better word by by hamlock so that's a big story and a big arc for crosshair but if you have someone

[00:35:39] like echo who was the nicest and kindest of the bad batch if you have him being brainwash that's another story it's

[00:35:45] a different story than having brain having crosshair being brainwashed so I don't think it's a one for one swap we need

[00:35:51] someone on the other side from our bad batch it's the actual character of the person they've chosen potentially to be over there is kind of a bigger

[00:35:58] a bigger deal because it's our little echo with the brain eyes they will have to explain that though because crosshair thinks it's because he's

[00:36:05] defective because he's a batch that he was unable to be kind of turned yeah which if echo if it is echo that's not the case

[00:36:17] well maybe it may be a massive fall from a great ice yeah big knock to the head but I think there's something in the

[00:36:27] discussion that crosshair has with hunter later in the episode where he talks about the loyalty being his biggest thing the

[00:36:36] biggest reason why he is so protective of amiga the biggest reason why he was still loyal to

[00:36:43] the to the empire all of those things come down to loyalty and because he was so loyal to them and they

[00:36:51] failed his loyalty and he realized they were loyal to him he's shut off almost and he's able to stick to that maybe

[00:36:58] because he's defective I don't think it's because he was born defective that he's unable to be converted I think

[00:37:05] potentially his defect of I am loyal to a fault until you break that loyalty with me and that's where he's he's able to stop being

[00:37:14] converted I'm not sure whether where their echo might have that or we don't know that story that's a good theory but

[00:37:20] that's a good thing like that's a good explanation of why they have to give that that's the thing yeah after

[00:37:27] explaining because otherwise it does raise the question like why one doesn't one doesn't yeah yeah so you just

[00:37:34] kind of have to it has to be like the evil this happens a cry if it's hemlock mon logging to crosshair about

[00:37:46] about why he turned that go and not him and it was like your two your two following orders to the

[00:37:55] fault and it's a thing like that and it's just essentially there aren't antists and it's by them like they're captured

[00:38:00] and it's hemlock doing a mon log I'm like oh no please don't do that that's not too on the nose yeah I don't think

[00:38:07] they will I think they they they parse this egg quite a bit you know again we have this hunter and crosshair

[00:38:13] conversation in this episode but we had one last week but we get more information this episode so they

[00:38:18] parcel out over a few episodes push air yeah I think I think they've been pretty good for the last two to

[00:38:23] be good for the last two to go and I think they're not going to be a lot of time to parse exactly

[00:38:28] exactly let's go on to blaster point number four unless you have anything else in the operative

[00:38:33] Chris no that's pp way well there's a lot of time to parse exactly we've got a lot of time to

[00:38:39] parse exactly exactly let's go on to blaster point number four unless you have anything else in the operative

[00:38:45] Chris no that's pp way well there's another group that are here we talked about it earlier on the

[00:38:56] the some of the clones are still loyal to the empire and we have another group of clone loyalists who are

[00:39:01] dispatched to come to the planet effectively their mission is to pick up Omega and the operative has

[00:39:06] called in this he's seen Omega here in the planet so and so amongst all of the battling and fighting

[00:39:12] that's going on between between the bad batch and wrecks and his group versus the operative we see the arrival

[00:39:19] of the clone loyalists at the end of land that of episode six going into episode seven and

[00:39:26] but there's a very interesting character that's a delight of the of these clone loyalists a character called

[00:39:32] wolf commander wolf we've mentioned before that we've we're big fans of Star Wars rebels

[00:39:38] and wolf is one of the last surviving clones he Gregor and Rex are all working together in their in their

[00:39:45] retirement so it's interesting here having this meeting between Rex who's leading this group of rebel

[00:39:52] clones and we have the mention of Gregor who's whose off planet who they're effectively going to be

[00:39:59] meeting and there we have wolf the third of that triumvirate of retired clones who live long past

[00:40:05] the clone wars and so it's interesting to have that moment where we have Rex talking to

[00:40:12] talking to wolf one on one telling him what they believe in all the clones are ends wolf

[00:40:18] are saying to him no their traitors we need to take them in means take them down but Rex is saying I'm

[00:40:23] fighting the empire I'm not fighting my clone brothers we are all brothers we were brothers

[00:40:28] and arms throughout the clone wars we're still willing to work together but we are up against the

[00:40:34] empire we can't you can't be on the side of the empire basically so that's very interesting and

[00:40:39] we see that kind of again as we've mentioned before that that call sign that we've heard

[00:40:44] throughout all of the bad batch the good soldiers follow orders we see that still within all

[00:40:49] of the troops that are around wolf but wolf does make the decision to allow the bad batch

[00:40:54] and Rex get away and so he respects Rex you remember as Rex is being a big officer during

[00:41:00] the clone wars and he's making that decision so I guess the seeds have been sewn here for

[00:41:04] wolf and to go up against the empire possibly in future another possible rebel clone

[00:41:10] which I like I like that so this ending for me was all the things because again it was

[00:41:19] that question I had earlier like wait there's still a little yeah so seeing this here

[00:41:25] and again you said that call call back call and repeat that kind of good soldiers follow orders

[00:41:32] do soldiers like that going and being so being so ingrained into this storyline and it's

[00:41:42] only as we get further further closer to the end further further into the story closer

[00:41:46] and closer to the end of this I want to call it the flowneiverse but it's not you know what I mean

[00:41:54] no that's the only time period that's happening it's the art of the bad batch you know

[00:41:59] I still think I mentioned a couple of weeks ago as well and on the podcast but I as I said

[00:42:04] the other part one of the other podcasts listen to rebel cells commenting on the fact that

[00:42:08] you know we have all of the eight years clone wars we now have three seasons of the bad

[00:42:12] batch it's entirely likely entirely possible we will have another show that takes off

[00:42:17] after this period of the bad batch I do feel we'll get a definitive end to the bad batch

[00:42:22] at the end of this season but it could be clone rebels being the next season where we have

[00:42:27] wrecks and everybody else that still survives this season going off and making their plans

[00:42:32] to head towards and or we could still have another animated series with a completely different

[00:42:37] central cast of characters that occasionally features yeah but it occasionally could feature

[00:42:43] a mega coming in and the bad batch coming in whoever still survives the series

[00:42:47] but and but this is a three-season arc within this within this storyline you're right there

[00:42:53] will be some definitive end point at the end of the season for the for the final show then I guess

[00:42:59] yeah you just need to call Star Wars Alpha and Omega well just Bob a fish we will be getting

[00:43:05] him back at some point so Bob a fish and Omega on their adventures in the in the next season right fingers

[00:43:11] crossed you start where I was going with this this scene of this end where wrecks is like no

[00:43:19] you we're not gonna fight you everyone put down your weapons and wolf going like there's a

[00:43:25] that there's a legitimate 20 seconds where I did not know how this was going to go like I

[00:43:32] I don't know it's like the tension I'm like getting so I guess I'll invest it sometimes actually

[00:43:38] what you do kind of think oh is this going to turn into a firefight like is this going to like is

[00:43:45] this where it's like wrecks gets shot through the arm or something like again just something

[00:43:51] kind of definitive happens yeah and it does but not the way you think like again we talked about

[00:43:59] like when you see Matt and Jennifer being the story kind of writers credited on this episode

[00:44:07] you know it's going to be big and yeah yeah and not just again not the way you think they

[00:44:14] are just building this huge lore of hey you got these brothers brothers in arms and technically

[00:44:23] clone brothers really kind of struggling with well the people we were low on to don't like us

[00:44:30] more the people who the people who we did love as brothers are now on the other side what do

[00:44:38] we do what's next again that kind of it's just yeah it's that kind of brothers

[00:44:46] against brothers yeah how is this going to play but it's also that big thing about wrecks in

[00:44:50] himself as a character you know wrecks was right at the leader leadership level of the clones

[00:44:56] he was right standing side by side toe to toe with Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi you know

[00:45:02] he's the one that would command all of the armies if he's made the decision to go against the

[00:45:07] empire hang on a second maybe there's something in this you know that's his position that's

[00:45:11] the why why he's the right person to speak to the clones that's why he's winning clones

[00:45:15] over over and over again to his calls but you're right the other thing they set up really well

[00:45:21] that's a good answer and I think it's I think it's part of the writing it's you know it's a really

[00:45:25] action heavy episode for the 50 minutes let's say for the two episodes put together yeah

[00:45:30] you know of those 50 minutes it's about 20 minutes of you know lots of pp and grenades

[00:45:36] firing over and smoke bombs going everywhere you know there's loads of great action scenes in here

[00:45:41] which aren't you know they're not that interested to describe on a podcast but there's lots of that going on

[00:45:45] so you still I think that's why you probably do think when you get to the end of the standoff

[00:45:49] between the two factions of clones that you might get another action battle for the last five

[00:45:54] minutes of the episode but the fact that they choose to stand in have a conversation and potentially

[00:45:59] seed in that change in wolf which we know happens because he's on the side of Rex in the future

[00:46:06] so so we know that change happens if you if you have watched the rebels in the past

[00:46:10] you know the characters so and so it's interesting that they chose to do it that way

[00:46:15] and they kept us help it on until he takes it off and Rex calls out that is wolf so

[00:46:20] so you may not know who the character is so could be it could have gone anyway

[00:46:23] you're absolutely right and they staged just after such an event of action

[00:46:27] that I could have just been another big action scene at the end

[00:46:30] yeah but that it does end in a good way like wolf let's them go

[00:46:36] yeah and it's I feel like I feel wolf was going to come back maybe in the last two episodes

[00:46:46] oh yeah but they're just they're setting it up because he probably is on tantas

[00:46:51] mm-hmm where he was connected to because it has to be it's the operative calls

[00:46:57] hemlock or calls home the operatives are based on tantas

[00:47:01] yeah I don't think he's on tantas actually

[00:47:04] okay I think because of they reveal effectively to wolf that there's experimentation going on tantas

[00:47:11] and that omigas being chased and they're chasing denny kid that's wrong you know

[00:47:17] yeah and so I feel like he is one of the loyal to the empire officers who got the call

[00:47:24] I'd saying you're in the vicinity go pick up omiga and bring her back here kind of thing

[00:47:29] but I don't think he knows about what's going on in tantas and I don't think you could be on tantas

[00:47:35] and not know what's going on maybe I'm wrong maybe I'm wrong with that but I felt like they were

[00:47:41] a group that may not have been as close to to hemlock as some of the other groups that we've seen

[00:47:49] so I don't I'm just not particularly sure it just felt like they were going this is what's happening

[00:47:54] on the planet tantas they may have heard about it but they may not actually be stationed there

[00:47:59] but probably find that next episode they're going straight back to tantas

[00:48:02] and so so completely right yeah that's also whenever we make a statement like that

[00:48:08] it is kind of like yep and the opening of next episode right away they're back on tantas

[00:48:13] yet going directly into their to their digs which were right beside where crosshair was living before

[00:48:18] I think that's it though for for that meeting it's a great moment to end the episode

[00:48:24] or end the major part of the episode let's close it out with our blaster point number five

[00:48:33] which is really just a wrap up with the spare threads

[00:48:36] I had actually called this hunter recognize the change in crosshair but we kind of talked about that already

[00:48:40] it's just I just love to have the scene was seen playdeesh because we had that moment when

[00:48:46] when they do another great crash land on the planet and amegas being being worried

[00:48:53] over by by crosshair crossers making sure she has her pack and she's able to carry as

[00:48:58] and she's got her new weapon and it's working you know he's really getting in her face

[00:49:03] to make sure that she's protected and safe I love that her push back to that to crosshair

[00:49:08] is oh god you're worse than hunter aren't you just as bad as him and crosshairs going no no I'm way worse than hunter

[00:49:14] you do not want to disappoint me you don't want me on your case basically but you see hunter listening

[00:49:20] into the conversation then they have that kind of again that face to face that reconciliation

[00:49:26] of the two of them as brothers again you know I thought it was really good

[00:49:29] but one of the other things again that's that's crosshair worrying about amega

[00:49:34] on the other side of it we do see and crosshair wanting to go toe to toe with the operative

[00:49:39] we see him wanting to be the one that's left behind so everybody else can get away

[00:49:44] I wonder if amegas worrying about crosshair because of the shakes that she's seen him have

[00:49:50] he's not as on his game as the operative is yeah so I wonder whether amegas

[00:49:55] since she's the only one that knows about how bad he's becoming I wonder if that's why she's worried

[00:50:00] about leaving behind saying to him that's not a good idea you know yeah no I think so I think part

[00:50:06] I think two things one I think yes partly she is aware of his defect and yeah like we see

[00:50:16] that his accuracy rate is really low comparatively what it was so definitely I think there's part of it

[00:50:24] I think also there was a point where one of the clones of challenging crosshair in terms of he no

[00:50:32] you're not you're still a bad guy like you're probably still one of them yeah I think

[00:50:36] there's an element there where crosshair is trying to prove himself no I'm good I'm back I'm like I'm I'm

[00:50:44] I'm a good soldier following orders for the right side right yeah like it's that kind of peace

[00:50:50] and I think we do get the the the key which is omega like she goes your as bad as hunter he goes no

[00:51:02] I'm worse yeah so he's loyal to a fault he talked about it yeah he's loyal to making it she got him out

[00:51:08] he's going to be super protective of her and if that means he was always the one who liked to

[00:51:14] like try and get up high sacrifice blah blah blah blah blah blah blah now it's just like oh he's

[00:51:20] going to do a contingency even if he knows he's gonna die because yeah when he goes against the other

[00:51:26] operative of the operatives coming down on the coming down the side of a wall in the middle of the

[00:51:32] stairs as they're kind of going down the inspire yeah um he he's hand-shaking he's missing left right

[00:51:39] center but he's kind of like oh this is gonna end badly for me and they still kind of hoops them away

[00:51:46] yeah um so I do think there's going to be that call out yeah I think omega's gonna say something

[00:51:52] to hunter or it's going to be the rest of the the the batch will start to see it absolutely

[00:52:01] and then it's that call out like you you're not the best should sharp shot anymore

[00:52:06] like we have our own and that's omega because she has her new little crossbow maybe maybe yeah

[00:52:13] or energy bow yeah the energy energy crossbow is cool isn't it yeah anything else about the

[00:52:19] episodes overall I did I did like sorry the one one thing that I'll say beforehand I did like

[00:52:24] that it is house or that saves crosshair after the battle where the operative goes over the edge

[00:52:31] it's it's house or that shoots the operative yeah even though he was the one that was challenging

[00:52:36] crosshair's loyalty earlier on I think he's realized now crosshair is absolutely loyal to

[00:52:41] to their cause and had had such a bad time at the hands of the empire so he's totally on his side now

[00:52:47] as well um also Rex does seem to lose quite a significant amount of his name and

[00:52:53] to read these two episodes so again well it's just that overarching story again he's worked so

[00:52:59] hard to get clones almost liberated from the empire making sure they're on his side making sure

[00:53:05] they realize what the empire did to them with order 66 and now we're kind of seeing him losing that

[00:53:12] that force that he had behind him there's quite a few named characters in the episode that we

[00:53:17] lose here as well so um so while they're not central characters there would be quite central to

[00:53:23] Rex's cause and they've been been lost throughout the episode so yeah no I agree yeah so you can

[00:53:29] kind of see that fire in Rex's belly when he has that conversation with Hunter as they as they

[00:53:35] fly away from the planet where Rex is kind of going I can't give this up it's no I know it seems

[00:53:39] insurmountable but I can't give it up until I die or until we win you know um after having lost

[00:53:47] however many he's lost uh through eight is this battle he is absolutely unwilling to give this up

[00:53:53] yeah I was like say just like you can look at us up till we die there you go you said it you're

[00:53:59] gonna die hey yeah but that's again the wonderful thing about Star Wars knowledge we know Rex is

[00:54:05] alive all the way into retirement all the way past the end of rebels as a series so we know

[00:54:10] Rex is one of the one of the lucky ones that does stay alive and maybe you're right yeah

[00:54:14] you even get to the point of a new hope maybe not exactly but he may get there so yeah or if

[00:54:19] it's a clone of it's not it's a clone of Rex it is a it is a right yes but with all that

[00:54:26] tendon uh do you have any final notes I do I do have a couple uh speaking of characters that survive

[00:54:33] Gregor has mentioned a couple of times in the episode and as I mentioned we saw wolf in here

[00:54:38] um we do see all three of those characters in their retirement at later on at the end of

[00:54:42] the rebels so uh so all three pretty much here in an episode even though they don't

[00:54:46] meet with each other so I thought that was really cool and then on the other end of the scale

[00:54:51] um the planet that there are is called teth which was featured in the first clone wars animated

[00:54:56] movies so and so all the way back to the start of the animated clone wars and right to the end

[00:55:01] of rebels basically all containing contained in this worn episode it's quite cool yeah no that's

[00:55:06] nice again they really are tying this into a beautiful bow it's just like hey if you've stuck with

[00:55:13] us for three years we're gonna start to give you all these really nice kind of kind of easter eggs

[00:55:19] nice kind of just callbacks this is one the fifteen sixteen years right back to the first

[00:55:25] clone wars movie Chris yeah this is all the way back you know and you may recognize when I know

[00:55:29] you haven't seen the clone wars movie for many many years but you may recognize that the actual

[00:55:33] spiral um building that there were in looks quite like uh Jabba the Hots palace on on uh on

[00:55:38] tatooine yeah so yeah this is a planet which also would have been controlled by the Hots so that's

[00:55:43] why the building looks really like like his uh his building so I think it was uh if I remember

[00:55:48] right the way back to to that movie I think it was Jabba the Hots nephew uh that lived in us oh my

[00:55:53] god i think yeah we all have way to choose this knowledge in our heads it's the right side

[00:56:00] i can't remember at two well but that's why it looks that's why it looks so similar anyway

[00:56:04] so nice that's cool so with all that said and done then um Derek final thoughts on star wars

[00:56:15] about batch season three episode six and seven infiltration and extraction love to these episodes

[00:56:22] are really really good because there's a really good mix of that great action that we see and

[00:56:27] those bigger moments when every when all the overarching stories pooled together with all of these

[00:56:32] characters you know there's characters here as we said from clone wars that we haven't seen for ages

[00:56:37] this character is from uh from the start of the bad batch that we haven't seen ages all converging

[00:56:41] here at all meeting up together to move forward with the plans some of them falling during the

[00:56:46] episode um but it really does solidify the central idea of this family coming together and all

[00:56:54] of the clone brothers possibly coming together in the future to fight against the empire that's

[00:56:58] such a big big parse of the story uh don't so well here and yet the the action was fantastically

[00:57:04] done um throughout the episode so it's great to just watch it through uh without taking notes

[00:57:09] the first time uh so you can just get all the action beaten then watch it through the second time

[00:57:13] take all the notes watch it through a third time refine the notes and get all the other bits that

[00:57:17] i missed and get all these strikes in there so uh so yeah absolutely love this so watch this uh

[00:57:22] four times lick uh since we got the original screeners so uh really really enjoyed these two episodes

[00:57:28] and but of course as always with the show it's not that you would take these two episodes and show

[00:57:33] them to someone and say these are the best episodes of that batch it's because you come to

[00:57:36] with the knowledge of the bad batch rebels clone wars it's a really good episode that works really

[00:57:41] well in the series of the of the bad batch so uh really strong though really really enjoyed it

[00:57:46] but you suffer us yeah we i'm right there with you um i probably slightly again just

[00:57:55] slightly less mm-hmm and that is a just a a a concurrent issue that we've always had which is

[00:58:02] you guys are way deeper on the clone wars and rebels and all that where you have way more

[00:58:07] knowledge so i think you getting some of those callbacks to the huts and i'm like oh yeah that makes

[00:58:14] way more sense of now i understand that's even cooler um for me it's the war time

[00:58:21] they are leaning heavier and heavier into that and it makes sense again they're just kind of

[00:58:29] it's now this is not your baby's first war film this is getting into like the the

[00:58:37] the more psychological aspect of brother v brother of a type of war and again we're getting

[00:58:43] into the French resistance side of side of the war rather than just the allies versus the Nazis

[00:58:48] we're talking about yes yeah that they kind of resistance uh exactly yeah yeah um yeah and i'm

[00:58:54] not gonna poopoo if it is echo i'm not gonna until they do it yeah like until it is confirmed

[00:59:01] at a time and until i see how it's done yeah um i won't poopoo it but we'll see uh-huh but i think

[00:59:09] overall these two really strong episodes and again and again how they

[00:59:16] that the fact they released these two together um it's a lot of that kind of it was so much of a stronger

[00:59:23] episode for the fact that the two of them were there yeah i think that they did the right thing here

[00:59:26] by releasing these back to back um but yeah overall we really really enjoyed it fantastic

[00:59:33] but i need a drink so should we head on over to the canteen yes we should as john would say

[00:59:40] fellow quizers fellow bachelors we have our canteen a quiz questions for these two episodes we have two

[00:59:46] questions as a samkras oh yeah the question for episode six of season three whose meal has

[00:59:53] fireball cooked for the team and what modifications has he made that's a good one i don't even remember

[01:00:00] that one yeah yeah check that out uh that's in that's an episode six in episode seven the second question

[01:00:05] what are the rendezvous coordinates for echo to pick up the team

[01:00:11] ah and it's not nine or nine or breaker breaker no that's not that's not a real call sign or location

[01:00:17] it's like five five five no there's actual locations so one more time for those in the back of

[01:00:23] the house sure the question episode six was whose meal has fireball cooked for the team

[01:00:28] and what modifications has he made and on episode seven what are the rendezvous coordinates for echo

[01:00:34] to pick up the team there you go those are the two questions add those to the other ones and at the end

[01:00:39] of the season email us to feedback at tv podcast industries with all the correct answers and you

[01:00:44] could be in with a chance of getting your hands on five funco pops of the bad batch oh i have them

[01:00:50] here nice so they will be sent out to one of the lucky bachelors who gets all of the questions right

[01:00:56] oh looky looky so make sure you get those answers in for these questions but you can also get feedback

[01:01:05] in for us so Terry do we want to go into some feedback from our previous episodes absolutely first

[01:01:11] up we have Lindsay Lawis who gave us some feedback on episode three and episode four and she says

[01:01:15] I forgot to leave my comment for last week episodes so here's a bit of combo feedback for me

[01:01:19] and I continue to adore this show i love how much thoughts and care they spend to really highlight

[01:01:24] the relationships among them this week in particular really focused on one of my personal favorite dynamics

[01:01:28] between hunter and crosshair i'm so glad we got to see their internal conflicts and how that manifested

[01:01:34] in their interactions not just with each other but even with the rest of the batch omega continues

[01:01:39] to be a beacon of hope trying to stir her family in the right direction so so happy that we got to

[01:01:44] have echo back as well but it was a bittersweet thing to have them all on puboo and no tech a huge

[01:01:50] shed eye to record for continuously being the emotional intelligence he has got the biggest

[01:01:54] heart for all of them and i love how much you trust omega and that hug he gave hunter and crosshair

[01:01:59] shed eye to a z as well who i hope has mental health modules in his medical program and because

[01:02:04] I think we could all agree the entire crew needs to have a group therapy session speaking of

[01:02:09] dynamics last week's episode was another great one to really highlight the fan calls it cross

[01:02:14] dad crosshair's reluctance yes respect towards omega and still trusting and following her as they

[01:02:20] made their way through that port was delightful to see omega continues to shine on her ingenuity

[01:02:25] without losing her heart despite all her experiences that will be so easily disheartening her reunion

[01:02:30] a record hunter was so beautiful and emotional and a much needed relief and comfort great stuff

[01:02:37] lady yeah there were two really good emotional episodes for the batch over the last couple of weeks

[01:02:42] as they all came back together and has as they reignited that team dynamic i don't think we're

[01:02:48] still seeing a bit more of that in this episode nothing solved instantly among this group but

[01:02:53] they are willing and open to coming back together much more as we as we get into these to these

[01:02:59] episodes I think thanks Lindsey for the feedback um for me i'm with you i love an adora the show

[01:03:05] is putting care into those relationships it's like one of the strongest talked about in this

[01:03:11] episode about how that works but i think we agree very much on the hunter crosshair

[01:03:17] that dynamic from like the last episode where they were on the ice planet and that banter banter

[01:03:24] is probably a strong term and the pricling between each other that relationship and how it does

[01:03:31] kind of melt like the ice into a knot of appreciation acceptance between each other it was really

[01:03:39] strong yeah absolutely absolutely thanks Lindsey and also over on facebook we got some feedback

[01:03:45] on last week's episode from dr bob philips who says someone should let the batch know the family

[01:03:49] therapy is a safer be less costly and see more effective than taking a trip to an iceracus

[01:03:54] to steal personal medical info enjoy this episode with us now to the monster the week format the

[01:03:59] beauty of paboo and the unexpected survival of the arctic condor who kept thinking will be target

[01:04:05] practice for crosshair that's really good i like that the bird that just kept flying in

[01:04:11] to the scene around around them when they were on the ice planet yeah i was hoping for target practice

[01:04:16] too bob i literally thought like just a random shot was gonna take it and they were gonna peel

[01:04:21] back to someone and it was gonna be like omega with her like her her bold castor kind of just

[01:04:27] got it okay i thought you're gonna say it cuts back to omega after crosshair shoot some

[01:04:33] and just joe is wider than god white dude that's way better that's way better right there yeah

[01:04:41] i do love the idea that's the second one of our wonderful fellow bachelors who suggest therapy

[01:04:46] for the bad batch would probably be a good idea and i probably had full agreement with that great

[01:04:51] therapy droid we also have some feedback from joe sharpener on this episode which was fantastic

[01:04:57] episode a perfect example of how the show has grown and the animation from nika film continues

[01:05:03] to impress yep yep and yep like it's a fantastic episode it's a perfect example and the animation

[01:05:10] is top-notch absolutely thanks so much joe yep thanks joe we also have feedback on these episodes

[01:05:20] and first oh is the one and only Victor von Dürm or Darth von Dürm if you will

[01:05:26] the animation remains incredible now we see what the imp suicide device looks like now they just

[01:05:34] need to figure out hemlock's tracker is omega mimicking crosshair she did the same with hunter earlier on

[01:05:41] her new crossbow weapon looks cool Rex is a great leader his dialogue with wolf is very moving

[01:05:48] and it's good to see crosshair and under working things out however i think howser is going to be

[01:05:53] a problem the shadow cloud operative reminds me of the terminator or winter soldier yes winter soldier

[01:06:01] is a good one that's actually a good yeah a good way of kind of think about terminator i agree

[01:06:07] to teach 2000 just always keeps going no matter what you put in this video but the winter soldier

[01:06:13] in terms of the beginning of cathamiracus of a war when both spoilers

[01:06:19] and i think that's okay when book he's still going and it's just like like it's when you got into

[01:06:26] that scene where they're beside the cars and they're jumping down and when you first reveal of

[01:06:32] who book he is and like that's what that is like you're building up to that type of moment

[01:06:39] absolutely absolutely i also think there's a there is that moment when the second operative comes

[01:06:43] in and he he says why was i awakened for this it does feel almost like they're pushing to cold

[01:06:48] storage until they're required for a mission like the winter soldier so a good call it they're

[01:06:52] victor and thanks for the feedback at next up Paul teen chile says the new rock stars youtube

[01:06:57] channel has suggested in their episode breakdown that the surviving shadow trooper could be a revived

[01:07:01] and conditioned tech which i'm not a fan of it is interesting the book shadow troopers know who

[01:07:07] crosshair is which seems odd if they're put on ice when not activated on a side note i started

[01:07:12] listen to the other shows on the network when i found the isokas show and i have a comment for

[01:07:16] Derek about his issues with space whales we don't seem to have issues with using lost cash or

[01:07:21] lost wolf which suggests that in the star wars context earth animal category names equivalence

[01:07:27] in animals that don't have scales and maybe breathe air directly this makes space whale a perfectly

[01:07:32] reasonable word for describing the purgles tentacles notwithstanding my two cents interesting

[01:07:37] Paul thanks very much for listening to our other podcast as well good to go go and check out some

[01:07:42] of our side podcasts and on the reconditions tech i we mentioned in our episode here i think there's

[01:07:48] enough in this episode that says potentially it's a possibility and i do i would always caution

[01:07:55] we've said on a podcast before i'd always caution the best people giving their theories about

[01:08:01] upcoming episodes when there's so many previews out there i know that we got eight episodes of

[01:08:07] the season we're not spoiling anything i promise you we have no knowledge of what's coming up

[01:08:11] past those eight episodes and but if you're seeing people have speculation really early on the

[01:08:17] season they may have just watched the head so just be really careful when you see that kind of

[01:08:20] speculation and but i think there's enough in there it's entirely possible the tech could be in

[01:08:24] there or that it will be revealed a tech is another person maybe going through the brainwashing process

[01:08:31] uh on tantis but maybe he isn't the operative itself but he may be becoming an operative like cross

[01:08:36] hair was going to be coming off operative so it's it's possible it is in the mix there and so

[01:08:42] i maybe think that at least gives us a possibility we get tech back you know that the bad batch will

[01:08:48] take back on board and deprogram and by the end of the season we'll have all the bad batch back together

[01:08:52] that's a that's at least a positive thought so we have a way of getting him back but uh but yeah

[01:08:57] it's a possibility agreed i think we went through all our reasons why we think it might be tech

[01:09:04] and as Derek says yeah usually if enough big places suddenly like have theories and

[01:09:12] are quite similar unless it's like obvious obvious usually sometimes watch the head which is a

[01:09:19] share because it ruins everyone that's why you guys love tv podcast industries because we watch

[01:09:25] then record watch then record watch then exactly and it is annoying us help sometimes

[01:09:30] well especially in this case because we actually had the episodes and we didn't get the chance to

[01:09:35] watch them when we had them as previews because we didn't have time to record and watch as well

[01:09:41] damn you to hell it's fine it's fine yeah we couldn't take an entire day off to watch to watch all

[01:09:46] the episodes but it's fine we're all caught up there since okay but just on your feedback about

[01:09:50] the space whales thing i actually responded to to poll on on facebook so he's not going to be

[01:09:55] surprised at my response i think the big difference really is that lothcats and loth wolves are

[01:10:00] named that that is their that is their species name all the characters in the in the show called them

[01:10:06] lothcats and loth wolves whereas purgels have a name so to not use that and to just call them

[01:10:13] space whales just seems unusual it seems like a weird thing still to me but it's a good

[01:10:16] explanation it's a good suggestion poll and from your side i think it just it just kind of

[01:10:21] is something that pops into my head it's just being weird why would you call something a space whale

[01:10:25] when you have a name for it so that that's that would be my only differentiator but i'm not

[01:10:30] i'm not precious about as i said it's not it's not something that really disturbs me or anything like

[01:10:35] that i just found it weird yep i don't even remember what you're talking about

[01:10:39] there you go there you go need to go back and watch this again i do now wait until season two

[01:10:44] oh go watch it again it's great it's great miss second watch we've been we've been doing that over

[01:10:48] the last couple of weeks we watched watched Obi-Wan through from start to finish andor through

[01:10:53] from start to finish andor so we've been trying to finish again the great you have too much time

[01:10:57] in your hands i know i have a baby star wars fan um so he just doesn't not a lot of good stuff yet

[01:11:05] to watch it baby in a while when i get to rewatch it with him yeah just put them on the background

[01:11:11] he mostly sleeps Chris so all you do is as watching CBY's in your arms you know i wish

[01:11:16] that anymore what's it 20 20 eight hours a day yeah yeah as usual sleeping half

[01:11:21] day these awake finally we got some feedback from doctor bob billows on this episode we had this to say

[01:11:28] twos brushing there's not enough dental hygiene in star wars and i could have got us to the poison

[01:11:35] to the lot faster plus bachelors breath has to be awful but everyone's fine with a lick from them

[01:11:43] it's a like a long time ago in the galaxy far far away they didn't have the same

[01:11:50] approached odor maybe enjoy these two with their dark horror for kids vibes the indestructible ninja

[01:11:58] trooper we clearly only be ending with oh make understanding his inner pain and offering

[01:12:04] unconditional love i like that that's how we make a wins the day in terms of the odor thing

[01:12:11] that's always been one that i kind of kind of that i questioned but like he doesn't talk

[01:12:17] it's not a big thing to dog web because think about tattooing the sweat on that

[01:12:26] like that has it like obi one can obi wearing a big gray woolen kind of cloak over his clothes

[01:12:35] in a place with three sons like he's gonna sweat a lot he may not feel the sweat because his

[01:12:43] gen i training his body still gonna do it so he's gonna smell like a hermit

[01:12:49] and well absolutely and i think there is even nods to that in in obi one tv show as well but

[01:12:54] honestly i'm much more worried about people like the stormtroopers um they've got a full suit of

[01:12:59] armor head to toe uh unless they've got fans given off all the time inside there uh that's gonna

[01:13:04] be rank and we have the bad bass themselves you know we're constantly traveling around the galaxy

[01:13:10] in the exact same outfits that they that they've had you know they've they've tuned them up and

[01:13:16] painted them but we don't see them like lenzging around while they're while they're

[01:13:19] clearing cleaning out their smelly city they're doing so but that's probably why all the stormtroopers

[01:13:24] miss because they have a fan going off in their helmet and they're like that's so distracting

[01:13:30] we've solved it we've solved it fantastic thanks so much for your feedback talk to Bob and thanks

[01:13:37] everybody for your feedback on these episodes of the bad batch we hope hope you're gonna stay with

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[01:14:37] that show bloody again there's so much so much battling and so much blood going on over there

[01:14:44] but great to be back in that world of rubber Kirkman's again yeah and we're talking about space wells

[01:14:49] here we're talking about space quids there yes we are yes we are thanks so much for joining us

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