Star Wars The Bad Batch 312 Podcast

[00:00:00] This is TV Podcast Industries and we're talking about the bad batch season 3 episode 12, Juggernart

[00:00:07] Emory you don't have to do this

[00:00:14] I'm sorry but I do for what it's worth I'm glad you're safe

[00:00:22] Am I?

[00:00:30] Welcome back to TV Podcast Industries and we're talking about the bad batch

[00:00:45] Season 3 episode 12 Juggernart. I am one of your hosts Chris. I don't sound like Chris, but I am Chris

[00:00:53] I swear to you. I am joined by my illustrious co-hosts from a different galaxy far far away

[00:00:59] Yes boys, please take over so I can cough

[00:01:04] Yes hello there fellow bratchers yes who is all sexy new podcast hosts with his gravelly voice

[00:01:13] I know maybe you sound like Wrecker

[00:01:17] You know it's interesting I was thinking earlier on the bad batch now with Amiga captured

[00:01:22] Just consists of three members so it is the three of us I guess I'm Hunter your crosser and now Chris is definitely

[00:01:29] It's definitely yeah, it's definitely record right and the one with PTSD

[00:01:33] Well, that's true afternoon. I would say you're the laser focused one that can hit a target from a far distance not anymore

[00:01:41] I don't know it's an allegory from my general demise

[00:01:47] You have a shaky hand as well. Yes

[00:01:50] Quite but I am one of your hosts John. I'm your other host Derek welcome back

[00:01:54] We are in the last month of the bad batch coverage

[00:01:57] We've got just three more episodes to go after this one. So we are in the last month of weekly coverage of bad batch

[00:02:03] Yeah, that's kind of snuck up on me. Yeah, that has come around very quickly actually

[00:02:09] Yeah, I feel it's both snuck up

[00:02:12] As well as also overstayed some of its welcome

[00:02:15] In that in that it feels like this series this season has gone on really really long

[00:02:22] But at the same time I'm feeling like oh no, but like I keep going just to don't end. It's fine

[00:02:27] Just like we just keep going. I will continue with these like 17 to 20 minute episodes a week for forever

[00:02:34] Don't need to end it at the end of this. It's fine. Exactly. It's okay. I get to catch up in weekly beans

[00:02:40] It's fine. Yeah, exactly. You know, it's it's it's because we're covering shows that are only six episodes long

[00:02:45] We're covering showguns 10 episodes

[00:02:47] But of course we had the really interesting one with invincible where we had four episodes last year

[00:02:52] Four episodes this year and they make up one full season

[00:02:54] So it feels like we covered invincible really fast

[00:02:57] It feels like we've been we've been covering showgun pretty fast

[00:03:00] And then we have these 15 episodes for the bad batch

[00:03:02] But it's been great spell in time with the bad batch. It feels like our regular little hangout each week, which is cool

[00:03:08] Yeah, no, it's always good fun. Yeah, I mean it's been really good fun

[00:03:13] I really enjoy the bad batch. I mean, it's yeah, I mean you say it like that and you go

[00:03:17] Okay, there's only three episodes left

[00:03:19] So it's not that many and like you say it's kind of crept up really

[00:03:24] Um, so notwithstanding tales of the empire

[00:03:27] I can't wait for the next kind of Star Wars animated project

[00:03:31] It's kind of in the the style of this, you know, yeah

[00:03:34] Assuming there is one that's it

[00:03:36] Agreed and I know that we do have the tales in the empire coming

[00:03:40] Um, I'm very interested to see what the hell that's about I for one. I'd like I'm

[00:03:45] Barely any information aside from their name and I'm kind of like, hmm

[00:03:50] Is this essentially just like here's six tales of the dark side of all the bad guys

[00:03:56] Here's what thron did on spring break on the Coruscant

[00:04:00] Is it good? Did he get up to dirty

[00:04:02] Deboucher's deeds. No, he's thrown. He's a bad guy

[00:04:06] He killed a couple of people and masterminded some conspiracy

[00:04:10] Do you want to know a little more about it chris?

[00:04:12] Yeah, because we had tales the Jedi last season which was

[00:04:17] Some tales of um, Ahsoka Tano and some tales of

[00:04:20] Count Dooku this time

[00:04:22] It's the tales of barris offy and it's tales about morgan elspeth who we saw on the live action

[00:04:26] Ahsoka series and the mandaloreans three tales about her and three tales about barris offy

[00:04:31] So that's the way they're doing it this time. So so you're right though

[00:04:34] We will see a little bit of of grand admiral thron in there

[00:04:38] He is confirmed he's in the trailer, but uh, but those that's the focus those two characters for the six episodes of the show

[00:04:44] So that's really exciting. Yeah. Now the shorts. They're only they're like six to seven minutes each one

[00:04:48] So uh, like the um like the tales of the Jedi

[00:04:52] So we're hoping that we'll be able to cover it within the podcast

[00:04:55] Nice

[00:04:56] Yeah, be good. It's sweet. See yeah

[00:04:58] Cool, but then gentlemen, let's get on to our discussion of a very short

[00:05:05] Er than usual episode of the bad batch as we go into our final stint of the season

[00:05:11] um episode 12 juggernaut

[00:05:15] Derek do you want to tell us who gave us what where when and how with this episode details?

[00:05:19] Absolutely executive producers for the show. Of course our Brad Rao and Jennifer Corbett

[00:05:23] This episode was written by Ezra Nockman

[00:05:26] There's the third episode of the series that Ezra Nockman's written after the clone conspiracy in season two

[00:05:31] Which was season two episode seven and episode four of this season a different approach

[00:05:34] Remember the one where omega and crosshair crash land and have to escape from the planet on their own

[00:05:38] That was uh Ezra Nockman as well

[00:05:41] Very good quite cool quite cool

[00:05:43] Director of this episode is steward lee who's directed those of these episodes and matt mcdavis

[00:05:47] Of course is the story editor for the show overall

[00:05:50] John do you want to tell us what they gave us with your synopsis for the bad batch 312 juggernaut?

[00:05:57] Sure amiga is returned to tantis base for immediate testing by dr. Emery car while the bad batch are left on paboo

[00:06:05] Crosshair has one last option to find the tantis base

[00:06:10] The disgraced admiral rampart who's being held at the imperial labor camp on Erebus

[00:06:15] He was the one who sent Nala say to tantis and knows its location

[00:06:20] Enlisting the help of fissionoa the bad batch intercept rampart

[00:06:24] But he will only give them the information if they get him off the planet

[00:06:28] Following a battle with the imperial ground forces. They extract rampart after leaving the planet

[00:06:34] He reveals no one knows the route to tantis and that's how it was created

[00:06:39] But he might just have a way around that

[00:06:42] Meanwhile back at the tantis labs dr. Carr confirms that amiga is a key part of the solution

[00:06:49] to project necromancer and dr. Hemlock brings her to her new permanent home in the vault with the other specimens

[00:06:58] Happy holidays amiga absolutely welcome to your new home in the vault behind all of these barriers

[00:07:04] Yeah, thank you. Absolutely. Yeah, they're very very rapid this episode

[00:07:10] And I mean effectively in essence it is prison break

[00:07:15] Yeah, absolutely are the great escape or the great escape. Yeah

[00:07:20] Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, it is more prison

[00:07:22] Oh, well, you're guessing being broken out. Yeah, all right

[00:07:24] It was more good if she goes great escape with a speeder bike over at the side of the mountain

[00:07:28] I'm down to see that there you go. Yeah, that would be cool. There you go

[00:07:32] I just don't think rampart is quite steve mcqueen. No, I don't think so

[00:07:38] McQueen never would have had that beard or hair cut no matter how long he spent in prison

[00:07:41] He is kind of channeling Luke Skywalker a new hope

[00:07:50] That is whiny Luke Skywalker from a new hope that John is just channeling trying to channel there on behalf of

[00:07:57] I didn't want to do my shoes

[00:08:01] But with that let's get into our blaster point number one

[00:08:05] We're gonna just take omega story in the episode as our blaster point number one omega back on tantis

[00:08:13] Do you know what I loved the opening of this episode?

[00:08:16] just as the

[00:08:18] Transport of the operative as we're still calling the character that we don't know who it is

[00:08:23] As the operative arrives back on tantis with

[00:08:26] Omega stashed on board

[00:08:28] And just thought the music was so oppressive around me

[00:08:32] Music was so oppressive a really excellent piece of score because omega's now been

[00:08:38] Just dragged back to to tantis and dragged back to

[00:08:42] Dr. Carran to dr. Hemlock for testing

[00:08:46] if it's all doom and gloom and the the the whole setting of it as the rain pours and and the operative

[00:08:54] Brings her back to dr. Hemlock and as he goes you made the right choice in giving yourself up

[00:09:00] I just thought um, it was a great setting for the episode. Yeah, absolutely

[00:09:04] And I mean jimmy simpson who voices hemlock is just fantastic because you know really he's not in it that much but

[00:09:12] Just absolutely

[00:09:14] Love the delivery love the ominous

[00:09:17] feeling all the time around

[00:09:20] seeing hemlock on screen

[00:09:22] And I mean like even just the little touches of the operative just you know nudging

[00:09:29] Omega along as hemlock turns around to take

[00:09:33] And her to to emory car to to start the the testing on her to get this confirmation about the uh

[00:09:42] You know the vintage of her blood

[00:09:45] Um hemlock for me. I mean, this is the best possible way jimmy simpson

[00:09:50] Yeah chewing the scenery with this character. Absolutely like he's just like the script is given

[00:09:56] He's eating it up and he's really kind of

[00:10:00] We're giving it all to what this role is. Yeah, definitely a fantastic way

[00:10:05] There's kind of a mirroring of hemlock holding his hand and cross her as well in this episode

[00:10:12] And so I'm wondering if the operative

[00:10:14] Could be you know like a mongrel hybrid of the two of them or even if hemlock

[00:10:22] Has something much more personal to do with necromancer because of

[00:10:28] the nature of

[00:10:30] Him holding his hand and it covered as well as

[00:10:35] With cross her. Yeah. Yeah, we we still haven't got that

[00:10:39] Born out as the season goes on

[00:10:40] We still had loads of theories as to what could be happening under that operatives mask

[00:10:45] Yeah, we know the theory that it's tech

[00:10:47] We absolutely talked about that before but the other theory that it could be a clone of crosshair specifically and that's why it's

[00:10:54] Impacting him and then hemlock also having the same

[00:10:57] Affactation with the hand as as crosshair has there's something else in that as well that we may see as this season goes on

[00:11:03] But I just wanted to mention there is one moment with

[00:11:06] Hemlock as he brings omega in and she asks where nala say is because that's who she of course expects to be in the lab

[00:11:11] Not not doctor car and it's just his delivery there that just sounded really like

[00:11:16] the emperor's

[00:11:19] Moment with luke skywalker at the end of return of the jedi where he says you're not going to have any

[00:11:24] Any of your friends coming to get you with at this fully operational

[00:11:28] Battle station. Yeah with the death star in return of jedi. It felt similar when hemlock was going

[00:11:34] Oh, she won't be able to help you escape again

[00:11:36] You know, it's a it's that moment where he's kind of rubbing it in her face that he found out exactly who it was

[00:11:42] That allowed omega to escape and she's been punished for it. Yeah, absolutely

[00:11:46] Yeah, I kind of do like that as well where amiga tells emory

[00:11:51] Just because we were talking about it last week around, you know emory having that change of heart or at least

[00:11:57] You get this sense

[00:11:59] Inwardly that she's questioning her work

[00:12:03] And what it actually means and you have amiga kind of again amplifying that same

[00:12:09] To emory that she doesn't have to do this and she you know, she doesn't answer it and just says

[00:12:15] For what it's worth, you know, I'm glad you're safe effectively and amiga just says am I safe? Oh, yeah

[00:12:22] Which was really good. I like that go amiga

[00:12:25] Absolutely. Yeah, I think what they're doing to set up what's happening on tantis and the necromancer is some of the most interesting stuff

[00:12:32] Yeah

[00:12:33] For in my opinion this season

[00:12:36] Yeah, um just kind of how they are

[00:12:40] I don't want to call it reckoning

[00:12:42] The sequels like they're just kind of they're they're telling us something that we never knew about what they now sure they wrote it after

[00:12:49] That's fine. Anyway, it's just connecting the story. That's just connecting the story exactly

[00:12:54] The thing i'm finding most interesting is some of the wording choices that like they were trying like hemlocks going around

[00:13:00] Well, like the high m count being transferred into subjects is not going well

[00:13:06] Um, and we can't make it viable

[00:13:09] And i'm like, okay, so

[00:13:12] I think some of this

[00:13:14] The things that they were injecting

[00:13:17] into

[00:13:18] um

[00:13:19] Crosshair and into hemlock themselves is an high m count

[00:13:25] And they can't make it through and that's this is the side effect of those experiments

[00:13:29] Because you keep saying it's degrading the subject and I think

[00:13:32] They once they trip. I think that's what we're seeing

[00:13:35] Is hemlocks experimenting on himself? Maybe I think we may see that kind of really cool thing at the end

[00:13:43] um

[00:13:44] Like he takes off the the glove and he suddenly has an octopus like arm

[00:13:49] Eight arms hidden underneath. I was more going like a crinkled wrinkly old hand

[00:13:55] Yeah, everything's gonna be okay. That's cooler. Yeah, exactly. I was thinking more dumbledore, you know by kind of the half blood prince

[00:14:02] Yeah, yeah that kind of thing god we're showing our nerd dumb here

[00:14:06] Yeah, but I we have a podcast about star wars out of making show

[00:14:11] We show it every week chris

[00:14:13] But uh, yeah, I mean I kind of I like the fact that you know when he brings

[00:14:19] Amiga to the vault he says, you know

[00:14:22] You're the final piece of the puzzle effectively. So all these kids in

[00:14:26] Uh in the vault have got all apart their blood

[00:14:30] And their traits all have a part to play in stabilizing

[00:14:36] Um the the m count and making it

[00:14:41] So that it doesn't degrade so I kind of really like that and again, yeah

[00:14:46] We get that confirmation from emory card that you know

[00:14:51] The m count results ultimately pass the test are favorable when

[00:14:56] Uh, the the sample is introduced into amiga's blood. So yeah, I mean

[00:15:03] It looks a little bleak for amiga uh being sent to I guess, you know

[00:15:10] Summer camp from hell

[00:15:13] Well, absolutely. We saw how difficult it is to get out of the vault last time we were there with the specimens a couple of episodes ago

[00:15:17] So um jacks as the name

[00:15:20] Specimen, are you from the empire?

[00:15:23] Well, they haven't given us the name of all three. So I didn't want to uh, only remember jacks's name and not the other two

[00:15:28] Charges the one that tried to escape. He was the one that tried to escape. Yes. Okay, and learned his lesson for

[00:15:33] You're well, absolutely

[00:15:35] Two two days worth of isolation

[00:15:37] Yeah, but it's even the fact that you know the way that um, dr. Hamlock refers to the vault as

[00:15:44] Welcome to your new home to amiga and we know the other characters that were there

[00:15:48] We're looking to get home and that question couldn't have never been answered for them

[00:15:52] How do I get home all I want to do is go home and hamlock is introducing amiga here going

[00:15:56] This is your new home get in I just thought that was a bit again devious and uh and sinister

[00:16:03] Yeah, exactly

[00:16:04] Should we move on to the next blaster point then gentlemen? Absolutely

[00:16:13] Yes blaster point number two extraction from arabus

[00:16:16] So we cut back to the bad batch they're back on paboo

[00:16:19] We had gone through every possible plan that they could have had to get off the planet and follow amiga and it turns out

[00:16:25] They weren't able to do anything at all before uh, the empire left

[00:16:28] They are left alone and paboo with no way of getting to tattus to find amiga

[00:16:34] until

[00:16:36] Crosshair comes up with a plan

[00:16:38] Yeah, he's had something in his back pocket for a very long time

[00:16:41] I didn't want to use it to go back and save the other clones, but now that amiga's back here

[00:16:46] He's willing to share the last possibility the last disjevish

[00:16:50] Yeah, I like the frankness of crosshair here to to hunter, you know because it's like you've got reka and

[00:16:57] Saying it out loud

[00:16:59] Certainly got hunter thinking it why didn't you say something sooner?

[00:17:03] And he's just but I never wanted to go back to tantas again

[00:17:07] I'd say that's the mirror image where he's holding his hand in the same way that you had with hemlock

[00:17:12] Ultimately, he's saying I wasn't able to get the tracker on effectively. So

[00:17:17] There is

[00:17:19] Another possible way that we might get to know of the location of tantas

[00:17:24] Yeah, uh, which includes old

[00:17:29] Rampart welcome back

[00:17:32] So ramp on for rampart

[00:17:34] Yeah, I must say I was not expecting to see this character back. Nope. Um and in some ways

[00:17:41] Am I pleased that he is?

[00:17:42] I mean in a sense. Yes, but he is a sniveling little sort of

[00:17:48] Nasty piece of work really

[00:17:51] And but it would be interesting to see what happens given that we have effectively

[00:17:56] You know, it takes the story into a prison break and

[00:18:01] He he's on the run from the empire. So he's actually in a worse off position

[00:18:08] Than before just simply being a prisoner of the empire

[00:18:12] effectively seemingly in some kind of you know, pretty

[00:18:18] and

[00:18:20] Sort of off-grid prison. Yeah, like it was in the middle of nowhere

[00:18:24] It's effectively a mining operation using slave labor or prisoner labor

[00:18:31] To do to do the work. So how the mighty have fallen

[00:18:35] Absolutely

[00:18:36] And how they fall prior to Darth Vader being involved in the empire basically because

[00:18:41] All that happens to him as he's sent off to a mine. He was an admirable forehand, you know

[00:18:45] Had he disappointed Vader when Vader gets to power?

[00:18:49] Choke choke bye-bye someone else takes your place

[00:18:52] Is the new order in the empire. So, uh, so maybe it was a good place for him to be

[00:18:56] He didn't seem very happy there being in a mine

[00:18:58] That's uh, that's not the greatest place of the world to be but yeah

[00:19:01] Maybe he's endangered himself even more by going off the bad batch

[00:19:05] But they are supported in their effort to get rampart by the return of Fidgenoa to help them out

[00:19:10] Um, and I loved a little touch there

[00:19:12] We've been joking about the fact that they really need to seal that cave

[00:19:15] Which has been which has already led two quite major characters arrive on the planet in the operative and

[00:19:22] Assas's Ventress and now Figo Figo

[00:19:25] So how did you get here under the radar because I just used the cave

[00:19:28] Another cave that seems to have flashing lights on it saying use this to avoid old detection

[00:19:32] But even the secret entrance. Yeah, like I mean, so basically taboo has more holes than a block of swiss cheese

[00:19:40] Effectively at this stage. Well, especially after the bombardment too. Well, the explosion is even worse

[00:19:48] Although it's relatively intact. It's not like it was like mandalore. No

[00:19:57] They're still gonna use they're gonna go back there at the end of the season

[00:20:00] And they'll have that victory party with the ewoks

[00:20:04] Um, I like we get with every good end of star wars show

[00:20:07] There's a mini party in the celebration and

[00:20:10] Yeah, at least it will still be standing and that's of course because of the sacrifice of amegan last episode that they left

[00:20:15] It behind and left us reasonably intact. Yeah, just unfortunately with no fishing gear and no

[00:20:22] No, uh, no ships to go fishing. Um, that's uh, that's not great

[00:20:26] No, they have to get batchers as well. So you can't leave batcher there

[00:20:29] Absolutely

[00:20:30] But let's get on to arabus itself as we as we meet up with uh, we're rampart here in the planet

[00:20:36] Love this it was it's all action

[00:20:38] difficult to describe on a podcast you guys have seen the episode of course as well

[00:20:41] But uh, but I did like some of the movements in here. I thought it was I thought it was really fun as

[00:20:46] Rekker takes on his favorite thing which is just blow stuff up. Yeah, yeah, right. Let's go. Let's blow stuff up

[00:20:53] Um, as they get on get on to the the turbo tank

[00:20:56] Um, and they cross the bridge

[00:20:59] Uh against another turbo tank very cool turbo tanks are pretty big

[00:21:03] I mean until there was until the bad batch actually

[00:21:07] Sort of grapple hooked their way onto it. I didn't think they were that big

[00:21:11] I hadn't really got the scale of it. Um, but they're actually really really big and pretty tough given it

[00:21:18] As they're closing off the escape route. I mean it's just it's

[00:21:22] Going through

[00:21:23] The barricades. Yeah, I mean it's the wheels that are going through the barricades. So this is a pretty tough

[00:21:31] Tank tough tank effectively. I did also love the stormtrooper gag as well

[00:21:38] Uh as the bad batch before that as the bad batch sneak up on where it's two of them going

[00:21:43] Um, oh, it's quiet as usual. You know, I hope we see some action

[00:21:49] Filed our next postage and then

[00:21:52] Bush bash bash they're both stunned and that's great. They're taken out. It's like, ah, okay

[00:21:57] Yeah, there are a couple of great stormtrooper gags

[00:21:58] I love when the guys that are on the turbo tag try to investigate when uh, when the batch climb on board

[00:22:05] And then it just cuts to the driver and he hears the door open behind him and goes

[00:22:09] It was everything okay. And

[00:22:11] Record goes, uh, no and punches them in the face like it's perfect. Great fun

[00:22:17] No and punched them in the face. It's great. That felt a bit like

[00:22:21] Um

[00:22:22] Return of the Jedi actually when uh, Chewie gets on the at s t. Absolutely. Yeah, so I like that

[00:22:29] For for me just you say we can't describe the action

[00:22:34] Um, so far we have bish bash bosh. Yes

[00:22:37] And

[00:22:40] I think we're doing a good job as a podcast

[00:22:43] There was a bit of pu pu and a big bash bosh

[00:22:47] I think

[00:22:48] But I also love that moment when they face off against the other turbo tank and uh, they try to use all of their all the firepower

[00:22:55] record of course manning the manning the cannons

[00:22:58] And they decide to take out the tire the wheels instead and then use the turbo tank as a ramp to get over it

[00:23:04] It's awesome. Yeah, it's very cool. I love the look of all the mini missiles going off

[00:23:09] Like it actually felt really

[00:23:12] Unanimated. Yes, it was so good. Yep. They filmed that and then just took it in the show

[00:23:19] No, it was it was really good. And then the cool Indiana Jones image as they're traveling along the uh, the

[00:23:25] The path across the cliff the thin path and the drop ships are following on behind them

[00:23:30] And then you know

[00:23:31] It just it feels like this fights on top of the tank and off the side of the tank

[00:23:34] And then they have to escape to get onto fee ship

[00:23:36] It just felt really Indiana Jones like and I also love that

[00:23:42] Crosshair takes out rampart. She's the stun

[00:23:45] Stung gun on on rampart and for the rest of the episode while they're on the planet trying to escape

[00:23:50] He's just treated like a rag doll. Yeah, just picked up and thrown around left right and center

[00:23:56] Really good fun

[00:23:57] It looks and they look so that looks amazing and it looks like it hurt like he should have woken up with some

[00:24:02] bruises on his face

[00:24:04] They should have just animated that because when they yank him up onto the roof

[00:24:10] Like it's

[00:24:12] Thud yeah, like when they

[00:24:15] Literally

[00:24:16] Barrel toss

[00:24:18] Him onto the bridge of the the ship. I was like

[00:24:21] Oh, that's thank you forget that thing is metal to metal

[00:24:25] Ship ramp like yes. Yeah, that's gonna hurt

[00:24:29] Absolutely and we do get a bit earlier as well another plan we have plan 55 as well

[00:24:36] Which was quite good to secure their targets and

[00:24:40] In in the form of rampart. Absolutely when when crosshair

[00:24:44] Turns red to record and goes the doors are magnetically sealed. Um, do you remember plan 55 and record goes? Yeah, sure you go first

[00:24:53] It's like I don't remember any plans unless it's just blow stuff up and you do you take the lead I'll follow

[00:25:00] I prefer your

[00:25:01] Interpretation of that mine was the fact that he uses the electromagnetic seal a bit like in the trash compactor on the death star to bounce

[00:25:12] His one shot to take out three of the five stormtroopers that are in there

[00:25:17] So that might be why record was hanging back right if he goes in first

[00:25:23] He'll get shot. He'll get hit by it. I like it. But I prefer the other

[00:25:27] I like your comedy

[00:25:29] Made me laugh. It made me laugh

[00:25:31] But I also think record provided a lot of laughs in this episode so I was enjoying his but that shot is

[00:25:37] Incredible from crosshair though. Don't don't want to take anything away from that. It takes eight three people one shot

[00:25:41] It's really good and I must say I love

[00:25:44] rampart and crosshair, you know

[00:25:47] Just the fact that he realizes he's the target is like are you here to kill me?

[00:25:52] He's like no

[00:25:54] But you know it's tempting and he gradually descends as I say is ramparts kind of

[00:26:00] Sneery snivelly

[00:26:03] self-importance even as a prisoner. Yeah, like they even in an

[00:26:08] Imperial prison is not have his imperialness

[00:26:12] bashed out as a soul

[00:26:14] There's a personality trait that leads you to the empire I think you know and so he clues

[00:26:18] I mean he was an admiral so he clues him pretty quickly that they need him and

[00:26:24] So begins to bargain, you know

[00:26:27] So they knock a bit and throw a man to go back to all his crates. Well, he's going for a blaster

[00:26:31] Yeah, yeah, yeah

[00:26:32] Although one thing I say we do talk in many episodes about how the batch don't usually kill

[00:26:41] Settings are stunned only usually

[00:26:43] Yeah

[00:26:45] Hunter flat out

[00:26:47] killed a stormtrooper in this one. He smashed a stormtrooper against a stowed wall on the side of the tank

[00:26:55] literally

[00:26:56] a movable object

[00:26:58] meets tank

[00:27:00] Yeah stormtrooper in the middle between yep

[00:27:03] Absolutely his white uniform should have just been like a splatter of blood

[00:27:07] And then like I was expecting something and I was just like, okay, I forgot this is a kid show

[00:27:13] Any other show that would have been a smear of stormtrooper on the wall

[00:27:18] We do get a vill helm scream as well. We do for sure on this one

[00:27:23] Yeah

[00:27:23] But it could have been like hunter calling it going that's what you get for trying to replace us in our jobs

[00:27:30] I call it to workers across the world

[00:27:33] But but yes, that's that's the extraction really from uh from arabus

[00:27:37] We only have one more point and I will admit in a 17 minute episode we are stretching it to three blaster points

[00:27:43] So blaster point number three

[00:27:49] Because the deal that rampart makes is he won't tell them

[00:27:53] What the possible way to tantas is until he's taken off the planet

[00:27:56] That's why they're able why they do extract him from the planet

[00:27:58] They were going to just get the information from and leave him behind on the labor in the labor camp to deal with the repercussions, right?

[00:28:04] But they take him off the planet

[00:28:06] When they get him up into his ship and he wakes up

[00:28:10] They find out actually he doesn't know the way to tantas nobody does and that's exactly how it was designed

[00:28:16] Um, there is some way around it. He knows he sent nala say to a place

[00:28:22] And then she ended in tantas

[00:28:24] So potentially has some way to get there

[00:28:28] And this means rampart is now

[00:28:31] An auxiliary member of the bad batch sort of yeah, we're in this together he says

[00:28:36] Yeah, um, is this the way to

[00:28:40] amatantis

[00:28:46] Yeah, but but that's it

[00:28:48] In some ways I can't just enjoy the

[00:28:52] grovely snivelliness of this character, but also the fact that you know

[00:28:57] He bargains with them to get them off planet and yes, I'll tell you the way to tantas and then it's

[00:29:04] well actually

[00:29:06] It's designed like that so that you don't know

[00:29:10] But there is potentially a way around this that we can do so

[00:29:17] I'm with you for the long haul. I mean the bad batch have effectively

[00:29:20] Suddenly become baby sisters for rampart because I can imagine he's massively high maintenance

[00:29:27] Without load, you know, no he is. I think the next episode is going to be that

[00:29:33] Whatever this potential way in is and then the final two yes are finale

[00:29:38] But I think how close will crosshair get to shooting him again?

[00:29:43] In that next episode is the one that's going to be it's going to be

[00:29:48] Crosshair getting like ever so close to like just pointing a gun and like hunter going

[00:29:53] Eh and then at the end

[00:29:56] Will will they shoot rampart? I think like the comedic value of just

[00:30:00] That happening or are we gonna see like a record level kind of oopsie where crosshair just kind of gets too angry

[00:30:10] middle mission

[00:30:11] She's rampart and now it's just back to the batch being the batch kind of having to get out of the situation

[00:30:18] Because again, they don't have a great track record on missions. They get the mission done

[00:30:24] But the plans never go to plan

[00:30:26] It's certainly getting better this season if we were marking it the way we were scoring it back in season two

[00:30:30] I think they've actually achieved most of their missions this season

[00:30:33] And it's just still a surprise for us because here the mission was to go and meet up at rampart

[00:30:39] And then they had a secondary mission to extract him from the planet. They achieved it

[00:30:44] I've been may not have been the the best

[00:30:47] With that they that they could have planned but they didn't and earlier on in the season

[00:30:51] Same thing while they've been looking for places

[00:30:53] But the bigger goal of trying to find out a way to tantas is still evading them as it sounds right now. So

[00:31:01] Until the white John still thinks tantas is amaryllis

[00:31:05] But

[00:31:06] Because he's dancing here fellow fellow batteries, which is a bit odd and distracting but

[00:31:13] But that's the only other element that we need to talk about in the episode

[00:31:16] Is there anything else that we haven't talked about any moments that we haven't talked about any

[00:31:19] Any things you wanted to bring up from the episode nothing major for me

[00:31:23] I just wanted to talk about that death count of the member stormtroopers who died on that tank

[00:31:27] Just because like yeah load them fell off the side of the canyon and then that one guy was patty caked

[00:31:33] I was just like

[00:31:35] Okay, we're getting to the end of the season

[00:31:37] We're getting into the series and they're like, yeah, it's fine. They can kill one or two stormtroopers in the overall

[00:31:43] They've dead their blood the blood of their ledger is less than

[00:31:47] Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely

[00:31:50] Yeah, nothing from me the only other note I had from the episode

[00:31:55] It's just because the background characters are only seen them for a couple of seconds and it may be absolutely nothing

[00:32:00] But some of the other prisoners on air but looked slightly familiar

[00:32:04] There may be the same species but one looked a bit like Greedo and one looked a little bit like the bounty hunter boss

[00:32:09] Okay. Yeah, so

[00:32:11] I'm just wondering because the timeline and this is just after

[00:32:15] Revenge of the Sith as we know and we're going to be going up into a new hope where we meet

[00:32:19] Greedo and we're going to be going up into empire where we meet BOSC

[00:32:23] Could the bad batch have just released two pretty desperate criminals

[00:32:27] From the planet in that breakout that that were on this penal colony

[00:32:31] Could they could could it just be you know, we finally get the backstory of BOSC in the future and he goes

[00:32:36] There was this one time I was catching by the empire and some former clone troopers came in and freed me

[00:32:42] You know is that the backstory of Greedo and BOSC? That would be kind of kind of funny, wouldn't it?

[00:32:46] That would be 100% see that

[00:32:50] It's there for the taking

[00:32:52] A little a little tale of of the empire

[00:32:56] Story in the future that could be it but overall one of your final thoughts on the bad batch 312

[00:33:01] Juggernought chris. This was fine. It was fun. It was a quick episode. Um, it had some

[00:33:08] wagdoll physics of

[00:33:11] And cleverness

[00:33:13] It had it moved the story along

[00:33:15] I will be very quickly brutally honest

[00:33:18] You could have literally cut these two parts into and put tack them on to

[00:33:23] The last episode and the previous the previous and the next

[00:33:26] But I feel that they really want to make the next few few episodes kind of they don't want to do like

[00:33:32] Here's three 40 minute episodes

[00:33:35] But they could um, but as a short sharp

[00:33:39] Shock of a story. It's fun. It's good. It's a batch doing what the batch do best like

[00:33:46] Creating a plan not doing the plan and getting away with it

[00:33:50] Um, and we moved on and found out more kind of ish about project necromancer

[00:33:57] So again just kind of keep bringing us that one step closer to what is happening on tantis

[00:34:02] Which again three episodes we will know very soon, but it's just kind of it's feeding that

[00:34:08] Um insatiable appetite of story that I have so overall. Yeah, good good fine great

[00:34:14] Jonas what about yourself? Yeah, I really enjoyed this, you know short sharp and sweet give it four

[00:34:21] Turbo tank tracks out of five

[00:34:23] And I love the big kind of prison break element of this which you know primarily an action sequence

[00:34:31] Uh, you know, it showed the the bad batch off

[00:34:34] And it was just it was filled with some good gags

[00:34:37] um, I'd say high body count um despite

[00:34:42] The the first two storm troopers um being stunned the rest. I think weren't quite as lucky

[00:34:49] I liked um

[00:34:51] Like just to see that pabu seemed to come out of that imperial sort of blitzkrieg

[00:34:58] Uh, relatively unscathed great to have feedback in there and I really enjoyed Amiga arriving in tantis

[00:35:05] You know that was the dark side of this episode for sure. Um, and you know, I actually

[00:35:14] Having rampart back there it you know was good. I'm the next time

[00:35:18] I was surprised to see him, you know, it effectively

[00:35:22] it he came across as like a

[00:35:26] British colonial general if he'd been captured by

[00:35:31] You know still arrogant and all that kind of was to a tee that imperialness of it

[00:35:38] And so I kind of just liked the way that character is written

[00:35:43] To be honest, but let's see if he can fulfill

[00:35:47] His end of the bargain and let's see what um Amiga gets up to in her new home

[00:35:54] But uh, yeah, I mean hemlock. I think like we were saying at the start

[00:35:57] He just does chew up the scenery here

[00:36:02] And the the voice acting is just really great. Yeah, I cross everything but in particular with dr. Hemlock

[00:36:10] love jimmy simpson and and just how he's

[00:36:15] Done the voice acting for hemlock. I'd love to see him in live action playing that

[00:36:20] Oh, absolutely. Yeah, nice twist on it. That'd be great. So, uh, yeah four turbo tank tracks out of five for me

[00:36:27] Derek, what did you think about this episode of the bad batch?

[00:36:33] Juggernaut a fun exciting adventure and uh, the kind of proper nail on

[00:36:39] On the coffin of speculation about what project necromancer is about and what amiga's part of is thought that worked really well

[00:36:46] We've all speculated we all had ideas. We all roughly thought we knew what happened

[00:36:50] I kind of like that hemlock went right away again. This is where your part

[00:36:54] Meet the rest of the puzzle off we go. This is how we uh continue on for the rest of season

[00:36:58] This is why you're important. So, uh, we know all that now. So ready for the final three episodes

[00:37:03] This is just a fun exciting adventure, which I really enjoyed. We haven't had enough of those

[00:37:08] In the past so uh good to have a prison break for that

[00:37:10] Excellent stuff. I think with that, uh, it is time for a drink

[00:37:17] We dram at the cantina

[00:37:20] Uh with our star worlds bad batch cantina quiz

[00:37:25] Absolutely. We're ready for the 12th question in our cantina quiz for the bad batch

[00:37:31] Yes, we certainly are fellow batchers and fellow quizzes

[00:37:35] Here is question 12 from this

[00:37:39] Season's bad batch cantina quiz

[00:37:42] What species is ramparts disagreeable labor camp mate on arabus?

[00:37:49] Oh

[00:37:51] There you go

[00:37:52] There is an easy way to find out the answer not giving you any clues though

[00:37:56] There you go. John's warned me against uh giving clues

[00:38:00] So not giving any clues, but this is a way to find you

[00:38:03] That's the 12th question in our cantina quiz of 15 almost there

[00:38:07] Just make sure you're gathering together all the correct answers

[00:38:09] Email us at the end of the season to feedback as tv podcast industries.com

[00:38:13] With all your correct answers and you could be in the chance of getting your hands on some funko pops of

[00:38:19] Five members of the bad batch

[00:38:22] Do you have your own bad batch?

[00:38:24] Exactly exactly. John do you want to get the question one more time? Sure

[00:38:27] What species is ramparts disagreeable labor camp mate on arabus?

[00:38:33] Excellent. We have a little bit of feedback. Yes, dr.

[00:38:36] While philips says the great escape trust the most english of the characters to be the rapscallion though

[00:38:42] I'm disappointed with dr.

[00:38:44] Carr not pulling a sample switch and then letting amiga be put in a nursery cell block h

[00:38:51] More than dr.

[00:38:52] Mengele let himself in this episode

[00:38:55] Have you all noticed how the look of dr.

[00:38:57] Hemlock the animated isn't that far removed from the historical figure?

[00:39:03] Oh interesting. Um, no, I haven't actually checked and

[00:39:08] My memory doesn't really recall what dr. Mengele looks like

[00:39:13] From the concentration camps

[00:39:16] So yeah, I'm gonna have to check that out. So be intrigued because yeah, it would be a great analogy really

[00:39:22] And I think I think have a look at a look at a picture of them. Yeah, they both look like evil

[00:39:28] Well, yeah, I mean other than just sort of general evil. Exactly similar her cuts similar style

[00:39:33] They did make him look like a mix between Mengele and jimmy jimmy simpson

[00:39:38] So I think it's to allow for live action

[00:39:41] Yeah

[00:39:42] Because there's definitely opportunity to put like live action into this air and yeah

[00:39:47] This guy is this character is an amazing opportunity as long as he's not killed off in the final

[00:39:53] kind of episode

[00:39:55] Like down the side of a

[00:39:58] Big chasm per se. Yeah with electricity sparking around him. I need to come back at later time

[00:40:05] Through his own technology. Yeah, exactly somehow dr. Hemlock returned. Yeah, exactly

[00:40:10] But I mean and also dr. Bob completely agree

[00:40:14] You know dr. Carr not really not seemingly maybe she's playing it ultra safe here

[00:40:21] And because of the old prying eyes of dr. Hemlock, but

[00:40:26] Yeah, totally. I think amiga really sort of called it out there the emory doesn't have to do this

[00:40:33] But she doesn't seem to follow up on

[00:40:37] I guess her realization from last week. I don't think

[00:40:41] Yeah, but it's also the warning from nala say it wasn't it was another say that said I kept omega safe

[00:40:45] She has to be kept safe now the children will look to you

[00:40:48] It was more of an instruction from nala say and emory hasn't taken that on board just yet

[00:40:53] No, just just let's let's wait and see how it plays out with her for the rest of the season

[00:40:57] But great stuff. Thanks so much dr. Bob. Yeah, thanks dr. Bob. Thanks dr. Bob

[00:41:01] Always appreciative great to hear from your fellow batchers with that said and done

[00:41:06] It is time for us to

[00:41:08] hyperdrive into a galaxy far far away as

[00:41:12] We will be getting back to you with episode 13 into the breach

[00:41:17] On april 17th

[00:41:19] Excellent stuff until then make sure you subscribe to tv podcast industries dot com to make sure you get all of our shows

[00:41:26] We've just finished and wrapped up our coverage of season two of invincible

[00:41:31] Derek and I have to say we

[00:41:33] spoiler

[00:41:34] We loved it, but go back and listen and watch it's definitely an adult show if you're watching this is with your kiddos

[00:41:40] That's not it's while it is animated. It's not an animated kid show. So know that it's very much

[00:41:46] An adult animated one. Yeah, do you remember chris was talking about the stormtroopers smashed against the wall

[00:41:52] That would just be a strike a streak of blood that would be an indisputable

[00:41:55] Yes, exactly. That's a principle. Yeah, and the brains and everything would be left behind. Yes

[00:41:59] Yes, but if you want to go into the historical fiction

[00:42:02] Why not travel back to feudal japan with our fellow podcast hosts where they are

[00:42:07] Literally going upside episode through showgun the new the new one not the original old one because that's

[00:42:15] Like that's way too old of a podcast

[00:42:18] It's a bit old but the new one and apparently

[00:42:20] Spoiler again, it's pretty darn good

[00:42:23] From what I hear it really is absolutely

[00:42:27] Come on over fellow batches and become fellow warriors. Absolutely

[00:42:31] You know we got a bit of feedback in this week for the showgun podcast from one of our awesome fellow warriors

[00:42:36] Who just called the show a masterpiece on episode eight of the series?

[00:42:39] And I have to agree there really is nothing that I can complain about but loads to discuss and loads to speculate on

[00:42:45] Loads of twists and turns and that show has been really exciting to cover as our 10th anniversary podcast

[00:42:50] And we only have two more episodes to go two more weeks of that of showgun

[00:42:55] How's it gonna end? How's it gonna end come find out along with us over on tv podcast industries

[00:43:00] But for the bad batch, thanks so much for joining us for this episode and remember

[00:43:05] Any friend of brown eyes is a friend of ours

[00:43:07] Indeed always

[00:43:10] Brown eyes burning like fire

[00:43:16] Thanks so much and speak to you again next week

[00:43:19] Bye. Yes. Thank you so much fellow batches for joining us until episode 13

[00:43:25] Keep watching keep listening and of course keep being bad. Bye. Bye. This is the way to

[00:43:33] Amatantis

[00:43:37] Do

[00:43:57] And then the cool Indiana Jones type homage as the dropships are flying alongside the tank and it's it's traveling along the really thin path

[00:44:04] Felt really something from the castle. Good god, man. I'll never get through a sentence

[00:44:13] He's taken up the trombone the trumpet

[00:44:18] It was halfway through the sentence not all weird

[00:44:22] Oh totally fine totally fine

[00:44:26] The sound is like

[00:44:28] This is the 1215 from chester just come to blown through the station