The Boys Podcast 507 Review

The Boys Season 5 Episode 7 The Frenchman... Review Transcript

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[JOHN]: This is the boys podcast on TV podcast industries, and we're talking about season 5 episode 7, the Frenchman, the female, and the man called Mother's Milk.

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[ASHLEY]: But this is a new low

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[ASHLEY]: even for you, me, you took over my body and spied on Souldry Boy without my consent.

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[ASHLEY]: Do you know what a violation that was?

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[BACK_ASHLEY]: I had to do something sometimes stuck on such a coward.

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[ASHLEY]: All of this is mine.

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[ASHLEY]: Not yours.

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[ASHLEY]: I'm the one that got us from Minnie Driver's publicist.

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[ASHLEY]: All the way to the White House.

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[ASHLEY]: Me.

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[ASHLEY]: Not you.

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[BACK_ASHLEY]: Look at yourself.

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[BACK_ASHLEY]: Look at you.

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[BACK_ASHLEY]: You hate yourself so much.

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[BACK_ASHLEY]: Don't you want to be able to sleep too tonight or or or quit yanking out your hair or or look at yourself in the mirror again?

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[ASHLEY]: How can I, when you're constantly telling me how horrible I am?

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[ASHLEY]: I should be proud.

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[ASHLEY]: I haven't died.

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[ASHLEY]: Ha ha ha ha.

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[ASHLEY]: Do you know how hard it is to stay alive around here?

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[JOHN]: Welcome back fellow boys and girls to the boys podcast on TV podcast industries.

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[JOHN]: We're here talking about the penultimate episode of Season 5, the Frenchman, the female and the man called Mothers Milk.

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[JOHN]: I am one of your host, John.

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[DEREK]: I am your other host, Derek.

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[DEREK]: Back from our little holiday break and a week after the penultimate episode.

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[DEREK]: Okay, which means the finale is

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[DEREK]: soon to be available for everybody to watch and we're going to chat all about the ultimate episode before we get to the finale at my job.

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[JOHN]: We certainly are.

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[JOHN]: It's certainly team things up for the finale here and of course we do have a big big

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[JOHN]: big loss in this episode.

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[JOHN]: But I think we should get straight into it.

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[JOHN]: Also, over on the website will be our continuing pub quiz for season five of the boys.

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[JOHN]: We're all the questions

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[JOHN]: for you to look at.

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[DEREK]: Yes, I'd please include where you are in the world as well because

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[JOHN]: Absolutely.

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[JOHN]: So feedback will be coming up later in our podcast.

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[JOHN]: But I think with this let us get into our spoiler filled discussion of episode 7 of season 5 of the boys, the Frenchman, the female

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[DEREK]: Well, the show run up for the show of course is Eric Crippky as there's a based on the comic book series from Garth and that's some Derek Robertson.

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[DEREK]: The executive producer for this show includes Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg.

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[DEREK]: This episode was written by Anstom Richardson.

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[DEREK]: He's been on the show since season two and wrote an episode in season three in season four as well.

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[DEREK]: And this episode was directed by Silvene.

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[DEREK]: Why so this is his first episode of the boys, but he did also direct four episodes of Fargo and an excellent show.

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[DEREK]: Go check that out.

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[DEREK]: Yeah, and we know it was the director of the umbrella academy season two episode one and two episodes of season three

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[DEREK]: Yes, so yeah, another show we covered here on TV podcast industries that reaches its conclusion as well.

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[DEREK]: So yeah, yeah, that was the umbrella academy brings back memories of the yeah, absolutely really enjoyed that that's a great series is and that's a great story.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, sounds and brilliant.

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[JOHN]: It was just kind of just nicely wacky and, you know, if it was an upper class English gent, there would be described as eccentric.

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[DEREK]: The show was definitely eccentric and really fun and a great ensemble cast, very similar to this.

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[DEREK]: So I think Sildane liked to probably a really good choice.

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[DEREK]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[DEREK]: It's an ultimate episode of this show as well.

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[DEREK]: Definitely.

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[DEREK]: And with that John, do you want to give us the synopsis for the boy's season 5 episode 7, the Frenchman, the female, and the man called Moulou's milk.

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[DEREK]: Sure.

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[JOHN]: And powered by V-1, Hønlander kills the president of the United States, dissolves the 7, and prepares to reveal his divinity.

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[JOHN]: But when he asks Soldier Boy to join him, it's while the tells him some homelander truths.

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[JOHN]: He just had a wet dream, there's no way he's a god.

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[JOHN]: The Soldier Boy tells him he wants to leave homelander overpowers and knocks Soldier Boy out, placing him back into the Crow Stasis Chamber.

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[JOHN]: The Deep, learning that the Seven is no more becomes isolated and is approached by a familiar sounding hammerhead shark sander.

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[JOHN]: all of the sea life is aware of his role in the pipeline disaster.

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[JOHN]: His warn that if he sets foot in any body of water, including a puddle ever again, he will be killed.

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[JOHN]: Marie Miro and Jordan Lee from Gadolkan University on Cova Activity at Vort Studios involving his father.

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[JOHN]: but you're Huey, Annie, and Mother's Milk investigate the leaves, and find out that O'Fahre is doing some market research on the introduction of the new God home lander with his most avid followers.

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[JOHN]: They're using the world's best psychics to ensure the followers are true believers, when most of the group are unconvinced by their new Lord and Savior's propaganda campaign, home lander orders they get the VIP treatment.

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[JOHN]: As they start getting murdered at the hands of the animalistic soups, she line and dog knot, Annie and Mother's milk save the non-believing former homilanders and bring them to the Gen V crew for protection.

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[JOHN]: Elsewhere at the studios, but Jett and Huey are captured by sign-ups, one of the psychics and a shapeshifter who takes on the form of Billy's former partner, Joe Kessler, Kessler explains to Huey that if you stand in the way of Billy Butcher, he will kill you without hesitation.

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[JOHN]: while discussing this sign-ups has learned the boys' plan and the whereabouts of their base from his side butchers mind.

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[JOHN]: He shares the information with homelander and returns to finish off the boys, but Huey distract sign-ups along butchered to kill him so they can make their escape.

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[JOHN]: Meanwhile, back at the boy's base, Frenchy has been continuing his longstanding plan to recreate soldier-boy's deep-powering ability in Camico, using huge amounts of radiation.

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[JOHN]: When he cults all the puzzle himself, he finally convinces Sister Sage to use her superior intellect to stabilize the process.

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[JOHN]: As they complete Kameko's final exposure to radiation, they are warned that Homelander has located the base.

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[JOHN]: As he enters the boys' base, Kameko and Sage hide in a zinc-lined vent hiding them from Homelander's x-ray eyes.

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[JOHN]: While Frenchy distracts him, so he does not investigate the base too thoroughly and find Kameko and sister Sage.

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[JOHN]: In retaliation, Homelander basically wounds Frenchy.

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[JOHN]: After leaving the base empty-handed, Kameko runs to help

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[DEREK]: Big loss there.

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[DEREK]: Yes.

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[DEREK]: My friends.

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[JOHN]: Very big loss.

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[JOHN]: Yeah.

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[JOHN]: Having old Frenchy taken out there.

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[DEREK]: Yeah.

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[JOHN]: Yeah.

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[JOHN]: And I'm sure we'll discuss that in our major moments in the episode.

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[JOHN]: Definitely.

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[JOHN]: I think we should start getting into our big moments for this episode.

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[JOHN]: We'll kick off with the boys, all the protagonists moments.

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[JOHN]: Really?

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[JOHN]: Shall I start with the biggie?

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[DEREK]: Yeah, why not?

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[DEREK]: We've already mentioned the big moment of the episode.

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[DEREK]: Absolutely, in depth, on a jump.

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[JOHN]: Yes, why not start at the end with the death of French.

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[JOHN]: The Frenchman, as homeland, likes to call him.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, I mean, firstly, I think this is a big moment.

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[JOHN]: It's one of the key members of the boys that is taken down by homeland.

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[JOHN]: And...

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[JOHN]: you know, it's really interesting how that plays out, you know, homeowner has gotten the location of their base finally.

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[JOHN]: And actually, in many respects, he really wants to get sister sage for the portrayal.

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[JOHN]: And that's the main focus, of course.

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[JOHN]: We also want to get Billy Butcher.

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[JOHN]: He just wants to get all the members of the boys, starlight.

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[JOHN]: But the thing he sort of projects most as he

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[JOHN]: to make a visit on Sister Sage for her treacherous behavior previously and so

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[JOHN]: on arriving the ultimately he can't find them because we have Frenchy always protecting commico and in process protecting sage by putting them into a zinc-lined vent space that homeland can't see his ex-ray vision won't penetrate there.

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[JOHN]: But equally Frenchy also

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[JOHN]: It is looking to sort of distract him and has a face to face with home under hence his death, but he does expose

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[JOHN]: homeowner to radiation.

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[JOHN]: He gives him the finger, he is defiant to the end.

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[JOHN]: But there is an interesting cut in this in that we don't really see what homeowner has done to kill Frenchy.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, all we really see is after homeowner has left.

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[JOHN]: that Frenchy has managed to sort of drag himself across the floor and there's a huge trail of blood.

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[JOHN]: And we have Kamika racing out to see really if she can save him to help him, but he's too far gone, both from the radiation levels, but also his bleed out and dies in our arms.

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[DEREK]: So was this truly the first time the boys have edited themselves because they went too far?

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[DEREK]: It's Frenchy Tonting homelander, saying to him, suck on my balls, basically.

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[DEREK]: And then it looks like homelander rips them off, and that's what leads to him bleeding eggs.

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[DEREK]: I know the radiation won't, well definitely have killed him anyway.

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[DEREK]: Yeah, but this is a punishment from homelander.

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[DEREK]: I do love French, she's defiant momentary, says to me, you've never danced one day in your life, which makes no sense to us as viewers of the show, because of the relationship between French and Komiko, it feels like a proper end moment.

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[DEREK]: But this, for the first time, we've never really had a moment where the camera pulls away from people dying or people getting injured or people

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[DEREK]: getting their heads stomped on.

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[DEREK]: We had that two episodes ago.

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[DEREK]: This time it looks like they just made the decision that This would be too far for the show to go.

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[DEREK]: It feels like it was added in the episode.

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[JOHN]: It just feel like that the cut seems quite quick and and then all of a sudden

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[JOHN]: You know, the bleed from French is certainly in the mid-rift, yeah, but immediately you think well the last thing he said to him is you know suck on my hairy balls.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, effectively.

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[JOHN]: And you just wonder whether home under in his sort of just evil literacy of that just rips them off.

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[DEREK]: Yeah, and he bleeds out.

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[DEREK]: But it's like it's not like we ever need to see something like that specifically on screen.

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[DEREK]: But it feels like they shy away from us and I let it relate enough that people could think he punched him in the summer or something like that.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, I mean, maybe it's just because French is one of the boys, I guess, but yeah, I agree.

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[JOHN]: It felt like a, um,

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[JOHN]: a very hard cut on one to not show what homeland does to Frenchy, yeah.

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[JOHN]: And that might be actually the fact that he's part of the title characters in a sense, you know, or something like that, I don't know.

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[JOHN]: But I think it's...

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[JOHN]: it's really interesting that they've done that.

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[JOHN]: I think the other interesting thing I like here is in a sense zinc is almost like home I'm just kryptonite only it's zinc and it doesn't actually weaken him so that he can't use his x-ray power quite like that.

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[JOHN]: Don't think we've known that before maybe we'll have but it's

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[DEREK]: We have many, many seasons ago, and in fact, I think it was, it was French that discovered that and distracted homeland or when he was searching for the team in the past that they were hidden by byzank, he distracted him by doing the same kind of tap tap that he does here to attract homeland attention when he's on the other side of the building.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, but and then the other whole thing about this, the reason why these three are all together Was sister Sages effectively being lobotomizing herself again.

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[JOHN]: She's ultimately being convinced by by Frenchy through this episode

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[JOHN]: to work with him to kind of perfect the methods from the Russian notebooks that about what they did to soldier boy, which was exposing him to increasing amounts of radiation.

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[JOHN]: So that he would have his radiation power that strips the V compound from the blood and hence the superpowers.

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[JOHN]: So they're actually working on Kamiko and they've been doing this on the Hoshosh, him and Kamiko along with Billy Butcher's knowledge.

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[JOHN]: I think Billy Butcher is, you know,

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[JOHN]: I think he calls the Russians the Ivans and they did this to him in captivity and so they're trying to replicate soldier boys power so that Kameko ultimately will be able to use that power to desoup any of the superheroes such as homeland and we have sister sage helping after

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[DEREK]: that they both love love island yeah i love that that's uh the revelation after uh after uh sister saves as lobotomized herself she sits down and watches every episode of love island and what i really like about this is actually the extra layer it adds to sister sage why why she's lobotomizing herself why she's joined up with the boys and in i that here and think she's going to die is because she couldn't interpret the love between um soldier boy and

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[DEREK]: Stormfront in the past, she can't understand the decision that he made to give homelander the V1.

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[DEREK]: And it's almost like, even though she's the bottom-eye, she's watching Leville and trying to work a canceon to stand loath.

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[DEREK]: Canceon understand these relationships between other people, because the one thing that she did say was from when she was very young, everybody has turned their backs on her apartment or grandmother, because

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[DEREK]: Well, you don't want to have your grammar corrected by a five-year-old, and that must have stretched at all the way throughout her life.

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[DEREK]: So she's sitting here in the bottom eyes watching Love Island, trying to work out, can she understand these people who are falling in love, even though she had that relationship with good-alcon that we saw back in, back in Gen V season two.

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[DEREK]: And I wonder if again, she wasn't loved with him and didn't see

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[DEREK]: the signs that he was at the Yamaniyaking and a Christian supervillain by the end of it.

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[DEREK]: That's it.

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[JOHN]: She's reading a bit from getting these predictions wrong and they've kind of mounted in accumulations and that's the thing that she's just can't work out and you have Frenchy trying to ask for her help.

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[JOHN]: To check his work to recheck his calculations so that they get it absolutely right because of his love for Camico.

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[JOHN]: He doesn't want to kill her by doing this, but he wants to get it right and and she's not necessarily on board until you know French makes his plea that well

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[JOHN]: Lovers necessary meant to be understood, but that's why you like love Ireland exactly.

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[JOHN]: It's why I watch it and get hooked into it because all the chaos it brings from people Throwing around their affections or love in their hotbards, obviously.

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[JOHN]: And mean lost island.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, lost island really.

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[JOHN]: But equally, you know, in her lobotomized state she can kind of

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[JOHN]: start to sort of understand French, she's point to a few better than Sister Sage, but I chewed out like she's there.

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[JOHN]: Well, I'll need two hours to get my brain back, back right before I can start checking these like, you know, very complex, very technical calculations in order to dose commico right with, um,

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[JOHN]: with radiation.

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[JOHN]: I think what does she call it?

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[JOHN]: I think she calls it something.

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[JOHN]: The whole thing that Billy Butcher and French are doing with Camico.

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[JOHN]: Yeah.

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[JOHN]: I think is it?

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[JOHN]: Is it the to-dirken of fourth quarter, Longshot, Hellmarry, wishful thinking?

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[JOHN]: And then if they get the formula wrong by even a fraction of RAM and Camico's dead at the Epstein between guard shifts,

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[JOHN]: This is the long shot, I just think, yeah, it's quite good seeing Sister Sage.

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[JOHN]: I like, I've always enjoyed Sister Sage's character, even where she has been a member of, you know, the 7 or 4 really, and homeland is right hand person, but I just like the fact that in the sense her plan has been to cut homeland around all this time, so you know, peace and quiet.

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[JOHN]: And now, ultimately, she's having to work with the boys as there's the last gas to achieve that in any respects.

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[JOHN]: And whilst also, you know, kind of stumbling from her predictive decline because of love.

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[DEREK]: Yeah.

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[JOHN]: And so, yeah, this is all, this is all kind of...

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[JOHN]: or parceled up into the death of French, you know?

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[DEREK]: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

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[DEREK]: Yeah, what I really enjoy about this death of the character is that it is all tied up in the relationship between himself and Camico.

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[DEREK]: It is all coming from a place, a low of everything that he does, comes from a place a low of as it has since he first met Camico, so it's good that they played that Asian this episode right the way through to the end.

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[DEREK]: And that's the first member of the boys go before the final episode.

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[JOHN]: And that's then I'm still going to go, how many are going to go in the final episode?

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[JOHN]: Yeah, that's so rough.

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[JOHN]: Yes, really, really moving.

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[JOHN]: part of this whole series really, you know, the whole show, this huge death of Frenchy.

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[DEREK]: Absolutely, absolutely.

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[DEREK]: I think I'll send the death of French genre, we'll move on to my... No, I think you can move on.

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[DEREK]: Cool, cool, my protagonist moment is a sign-ups versus Billy and Huey.

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[DEREK]: Sign-ups the psychic and shapeshifter that we see here.

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[DEREK]: He's caught on to Billy and Hughie, and it's found his way to the two of them, capture the two of them, and brought them to interrogation to find out all of the plums of the boys, find out where Sister Sage is, find out what's going on, and find out their high decks.

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[DEREK]: But what a great way to do this.

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[DEREK]: We have him taking on the form of Joe Kessler, so the return of Jeffrey Dean Morgan in the role of Joe Kessler.

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[DEREK]: So this season we've had all of the members of Supernatural back in one season.

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[DEREK]: So last season we have Joe Kessler as a big major character.

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[DEREK]: Effectively the tumour inside the brain of Billy Butcher.

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[DEREK]: Now we have someone taking on his mind taking on his...

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[DEREK]: or at least Billy's version of Joe Castler.

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[DEREK]: And part of it is to tell Huey that no matter what you think about Billy but you might think that there is some light in there but history says that he will turn on you if you stand the wave as mission.

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[DEREK]: He did the same to Joe Castler and every other member of his unit when he wanted to guess his hands on a specific target and they stood in the way he allowed

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[DEREK]: the entire issue of the group to die and he was the only person to come out alive and he'll do the same again.

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[DEREK]: I want to love about this is while he tells all this information to Huey, he then just stops and goes and now have all of the data that I need from Billy Butch's head.

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[DEREK]: I was just distracting him with this story and distracting you with this story so that I could read the brain of Billy I know where such a sage is.

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[DEREK]: I know your plan, I know the location of your base and I've got all the

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[DEREK]: Um, Huey asks Billy, you know, wasn't he just messing with me or is that all true?

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[DEREK]: And Billy says every word, every single word you said is true, which makes it even more painful for him.

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[DEREK]: I guess, uh, Huey now knows what he's actually like on the inside, because sign-ups has taken all the information from Mazda Psychic, so he's translated exactly what was inside the brain of Billy Butcher directly over to Huey.

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[DEREK]: So,

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[DEREK]: I think what we've talked about a lot this season is Billy as an A-hole and hasn't stopped being an A-hole ever since, you know, season three really when he really made his big tear in all the way through it, season four when he thought he was going to die with that chuber and Joe Castler was in the background.

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[DEREK]: He became the biggest of A-hills and this season all the way to now.

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[DEREK]: He has been pushing people out of his ways, been doing things.

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[DEREK]: without a care for anybody else in his team, around him, and here, once again, showing that he was still do the same thing, he will still kill everybody, including Hughie if they get in his way.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, I mean, I like the fact here that Hughie has to ask Billy, is this true?

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[JOHN]: Because in essence, yeah, we've seen Hughie realize this.

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[JOHN]: already.

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[JOHN]: And here you have someone who he shouldn't trust synapses, sort of taking the form of this person who is just recounting this story that actually matches up with how he was increasingly viewing Billy that he gets so focused on his objective.

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[JOHN]: that that's the only thing that matters.

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[JOHN]: Everything else is collateral damage.

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[JOHN]: It's justified.

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[JOHN]: You know, everyone else can be sacrificed for, dare I say it, the great, a good, and you know, all the object it.

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[JOHN]: And he's been living this objective for years.

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[JOHN]: Like this is so

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[JOHN]: ingrained in Billy Butcher.

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[JOHN]: So I think that's what's really good here.

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[JOHN]: I mean, you know, is that Huey asked that of Billy after sign-ups has gone.

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[JOHN]: I mean, I do also think, you know, just sign-ups saying, well, I, you know, when he says there's been tricking them to get all the info on where, you know, all the people are, what the plans are.

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[JOHN]: He's like,

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[JOHN]: kind of suggesting that, well, his mind is scrambled egg and it's all over the place.

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[JOHN]: It's really dark.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, I don't want to stay in there for a little while.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, and, you know, that's another thing here that's that comes out.

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[JOHN]: I do like the fact then that Huey turns this on sign-ups, you know, later on.

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[DEREK]: Actually, what a great use of Huey's own little power is effectively

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[DEREK]: Simaps killed his brother or convinced his brother to kill himself.

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[DEREK]: Yeah, with the bottle from his drunk and mother.

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[DEREK]: Yeah.

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[DEREK]: And he's able to hold those images in his head so that Simaps can see them.

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[DEREK]: And that's all he can see.

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[DEREK]: And while doing that, he's distracted long enough for Billy to break out.

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[DEREK]: Be able to use his tentacles again and use his tentacles to rip Joe Kester or at least signups in the body or Joe Kester in half.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[JOHN]: I mean, really good because I was kind of wondering how were they going to sort of resolve this, always Huey going to be another one of the boys that gets killed here, but you know, even by a low level soup, it could happen.

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[JOHN]: So I really like this.

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[DEREK]: I haven't had the second show this year.

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[DEREK]: The JDM has played a character who's been killed.

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[DEREK]: And looking forward to watching the Walking Dead Dead City, where Negan is still alive on that show.

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[DEREK]: And maybe he won't be by the end of the scene.

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[DEREK]: Absolutely.

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[JOHN]: Three, three, three, three.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, maybe.

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[JOHN]: Um, I think the other thing here is just here we get signups as blood all over him.

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[JOHN]: I do Um, I do like there's a great bit of acting by Jack Quays in terms of how he that and the sound effect of him going

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[JOHN]: I've trying to get the blood out of his mouth.

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[JOHN]: Again, you know, he's super power is he attracts flying blood.

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[JOHN]: That's a splatter.

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[JOHN]: Yeah.

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[JOHN]: But it's a great little touch post the ripping apart of sign-ups.

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[JOHN]: And I thought that was a really nice little touch.

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[DEREK]: Jack Quaid has always done the best bloody spits takes since the beginning of the show.

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[DEREK]: Every episode he gets covered in blood at some point.

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[DEREK]: If he has a featured moment in the episode, it's usually covered head to toe and blood.

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[DEREK]: I'd love to know how many gallons of blood they used on Jack Quaid alone throughout the last class.

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[DEREK]: I'll see you in the next episode.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, no, absolutely, and yeah, I think that's all I have on that point.

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[JOHN]: Shall we move on to our seventh moment?

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[JOHN]: Absolutely.

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[HOMELANDER]: You're not the real heroes.

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[HOMELANDER]: I'm the real hero.

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[JOHN]: I think my first one is just the opening song from O'Fathers launch of the new second coming of God with home lander, home lander is the Lord.

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[JOHN]: I think you have him raise him up, raise him high, you've got loads of go-go girls, sexy dancers, the announcements of a new god with a musical number and I do absolutely enjoy when Billy

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[JOHN]: This musical number being done and Billy says to Huey, who other than Hoemander would announce themselves as the second coming to a musical number and Billy says, effing Hitler on the outside, foxy on the inside.

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[JOHN]: which is really good great.

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[JOHN]: But I have to say it was a great little sort of musical number that reminded me of with Captain America's one and I just saw this is something else that you could see them just riffing off.

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[JOHN]: and doing this musical number around the second coming of homeland as the new god.

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[DEREK]: Well it's like the subtle sound is being a replacement for Jesus.

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[DEREK]: That's the point, you know, Jesus just had the superpower of turning water into wine.

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[DEREK]: What a terrible superpower that is.

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[DEREK]: That was the other one curing, curing lepris.

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[DEREK]: That's not like going to protect our borders.

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[JOHN]: And no, it's like bleeds red, white and blue like me and you, that's something so it's just it's so well put together So well conceived as a little number, but it it comes into this wider and sort of Announcement the preparation for the big and

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[DEREK]: reveal of home and action as god yeah and when you have double digs you have to do a musical number you know that's definitely one of the reasons why he's here he is a great actor as well but he's well known for his partner Hamilton that's where he became famous first that's where everybody learned who he is so you bring him up forward and you have to give him this musical number

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[DEREK]: I do love that as part of this set-up or part of the staging of us, the dancers are significantly more sexy than you would expect in the gospel number and he's not hiding it at all even in this even in his dancing version of it Just him checking out the girls as he goes by you go in

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[DEREK]: He is clearly, um, choreographed the entire thing, but he's still leaving in him checking at each of the girls as they go by, um, but he's not happy with the version that's there, uh, by the end.

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[DEREK]: He still feels they're going to have to, uh, do it another five or ten times to make it just perfect for, uh, the new lower

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[JOHN]: Absolutely.

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[JOHN]: And then another side of this is all the focus groups, the VIP focus groups to test homelanders, new Mementus chapter, to show them his promo.

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[JOHN]: And so you have with the visual effect still to be am.

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[JOHN]: Thank you.

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[JOHN]: Jesus is handing over the challenges to homeland, to conquer evil, wants and for all, and he hands across the ground of thorns, as it's passed from Jesus Christ to homeland, and you just have the eagle at the end, the inserts of X eagle here, but as they have long-garing

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[JOHN]: across the screen and it's so funny like a love the guy.

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[DEREK]: He's so great.

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[DEREK]: Jesus is still hanging out of the ceiling as the camera pans back for individual effects to clear and you can just kind of see him holding a holding position.

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[DEREK]: It is so bad.

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[DEREK]: It's really good.

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[DEREK]: The idea here is that

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[DEREK]: most vocal supporters of homeland or in the entire country, so all of these people that are in this room, they aren't just homeland or fans, these are the super fans who think they're getting this VIP experience that they may actually get to meet their hero homeland or the people who've justified every single thing that he's done and they're surrounded by not only their checklist

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[DEREK]: reactions to everything that's going on.

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[DEREK]: They're also surrounded by psychics who are determining whether the reactions are real or whether they're just a bit worried about what homeland might do to them.

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[JOHN]: Yes, and of course all looked on by the animal soups, she-line, and dog knot, which they're awesome little side quests as well with this where we have she-line

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[JOHN]: sort of licking herself to clean herself and also her and dog not sniffing each of those bones as all animals love to do.

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[JOHN]: I think dog not says I can smell guac and corn.

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[DEREK]: I'm trying to determine what each other has had from the launch.

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[DEREK]: It is so awful.

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[DEREK]: It is just wonderful.

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[DEREK]: So funny.

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[DEREK]: I guess we see it all the time with animals.

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[DEREK]: Exactly.

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[DEREK]: Do it all the time.

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[DEREK]: But it's just the added vocalization of, oh, this is what you've had from launch.

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[DEREK]: If it was just a rage and sleep funny, but you know there is lots of that in this episode I love that's the that's the humor that they've added to the episode is what she line of doing because as you say she's cleaning herself like we've seen our podcast Charlie do many, many times I'd later on which is in the fight with MM he splash his water on her to run the way from the water just like I can't do.

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[JOHN]: and then distracts her with a rat.

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[JOHN]: That happens to be in the studio, thankfully.

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[JOHN]: And then that fight between M&M and Shelyan comes about because the VIP treatment that they get for being part of this VIP focus group had not truly believing in homeland.

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[JOHN]: And not truly believing in homeland were, unfortunately, 40 further than the faithful aunt as faithful as he would like them to be.

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[JOHN]: you see oh father watching the promo videos and yes it it's in the early stage but he's quite happy with it and he's kind of content with himself and he kind of looks behind and realizes the reaction is different from them and so you have a number who are asked to stay and those who

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[JOHN]: are asked to leave that they are true believers that even with this joddy first draft of a promo and the whole notion of what is happening.

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[JOHN]: And it is only six out of thirty.

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[JOHN]: Okay, that's, you know, home and it is not impressed that it's that number.

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[JOHN]: Oh, Father does want to try and convert them persuade them.

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[JOHN]: That's his part of his power.

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[JOHN]: But her manager is like, no, if they don't believe ultimately give them the VIP treatment and so they're all locked into the studio with she-line and dog-not going to town on them.

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[JOHN]: And ultimately then saved by Starlight and Mother's Milk.

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[JOHN]: And most of these people would have been bashing Starlight, but they get them to safety

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[HOMELANDER]: Yes, yes, but she's great.

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[JOHN]: Yes, for this absolutely in that sense.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, they've realized they've been batting for the wrong side in that moment to some extent.

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[DEREK]: Yeah, and then, and then, interestingly, it followed the whole conversation from, and from it started like where she was going, well, I don't know whether I want to save these people for me, they made their bed these the people that believe in this.

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[DEREK]: But it is, again, it is quite funny that, you know, someone that

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[DEREK]: is pretending to be the new lore that's intended to be the god.

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[DEREK]: Has to put together a promo with special effects and he's showing it to people going, well, would you believe watching this that I'm god?

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[DEREK]: Ignore that there's special effects that need to be filled in later on.

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[DEREK]: Like, the whole point is, if you were to convince people that you are a god, you would show them actual video footage of whatever it is that you're saying happened.

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[DEREK]: It's not a video effect shop, which is probably what?

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[DEREK]: why these people weren't convinced in any way, you know, it's only 20% of the group that's there, it was any conviction.

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[DEREK]: But yes, Annie changes her mind to sides that she will help them out, of course, and she gets into the fight with dog not taking him out and MM takes actually she-line.

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[DEREK]: I love that we have the little return of old MM just in a very simple way.

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[DEREK]: after you picks up the rat and throws it into G-Line and she bites the head off if he just takes her eggs and then takes out some moist hairlets to sabotage his hands from answering the rat so and then pretty much back here absolutely and so yeah a great little moment here around

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[JOHN]: the announcement and launch of homeland as the new god of the democratic church of America.

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[DEREK]: Yes, yes.

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[DEREK]: I would think we didn't actually mention about the headshots of all of the psychics in America that Annie and Hughie had seen last episode.

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[DEREK]: One of those headshots was

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[DEREK]: Because remember when gen V season one finished, it led into season four of the boys and at the end of season four of the boys case was part of the set of seven group of effectively.

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[DEREK]: So So she was one of their Psychics that was going out rounding up Rounding up people and she would have been brought on board for this for this purpose potentially were at least used by homeland To find people that don't believe, but interesting that didn't use her at all in this episode

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[DEREK]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[DEREK]: I'm surprised.

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[DEREK]: I'd probably think that having to manage those two shows, GenV season two and into the boys season five, there's definitely going to be massive difficulties there, managing the full storyline because they were filming around the same time, huge changes with the death of Chaspadermo, who was instrumental in the first season of GenV, so the change, the second season of GenV for that.

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[DEREK]: They've also now, unfortunately, cancelled GenVs,

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[DEREK]: I wonder if that's the reason why we didn't see Kate on screen here.

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[DEREK]: Maybe she should have been on screen, and they have to bring her back into the fold for Gen V season two.

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[DEREK]: So they couldn't use her as one of the side kicks here, but you would expect that's where you would have used Kate.

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[DEREK]: If she's joined up, they'll have to land her as forces, right?

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[DEREK]: Because she's a recognizable person.

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[DEREK]: We've done a very many recognizable soups in this episode, other than, of course, duck duck and she'd land.

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[DEREK]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[DEREK]: And so yeah, Derek, what's your seven moment?

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[DEREK]: Well, I kind of have to make.

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[DEREK]: I have to choose this one because it's a very recognizable voice appears on our screens here.

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[DEREK]: My seven moment is awarding from the deep to the deep.

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[DEREK]: Because, um,

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[DEREK]: We finally get the abolition of the seven from homelander rather than beginning of the episode.

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[DEREK]: He arrives at the start of the episode, crushing the head of the president who is a non-believer.

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[JOHN]: Then goes off.

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[JOHN]: Well, let's just say the exact orders range from banning abortions.

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[JOHN]: to banning not milk, of course, to promotion of breast milk to disbanding Congress.

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[JOHN]: And I would say Stephen, the president, as home I do refers to, it's just like what's going on here.

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[JOHN]: Okay.

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[JOHN]: It's like not milk is effectively

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[DEREK]: Harrison for home lander whose favorite is a good old breast milk portion and so I use the line from from the usual suspects the greatest trick the devil ever pulled as convinced in the world with that milk was milk absolutely absolutely absolutely love so but yes Stephen has his head exploded because he has to say well I can't tell Congress what to do that's not part of the president's

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[DEREK]: I don't believe the Goddess has to, well, you're not trying hard enough.

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[DEREK]: Let's just find out truly whether you were a believer or not, and use his vastly to read his mind and find out, no, he is just absolutely terrified of homelander.

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[DEREK]: And I'm not even sure whether he, whether it's just the fear, cleds, everything in slide it inside his mind, he is a bit of a believer in homelander.

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[DEREK]: He certainly believes that he's powerful enough to be, to be the leader of the city.

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[DEREK]: Well, he has been terrified since the beginning, and gets his head.

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[JOHN]: I think the interesting thing here as well is just...

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[JOHN]: it's not bashly that gives home under the redout.

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[JOHN]: It is Ashley, who basically says he thinks you're a little bit psychotic.

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[JOHN]: Just before he crushes or rips his head apart in the overlovers and then wipes his hands on the sofa in the overlovers.

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[JOHN]: That's an interesting moment he is that

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[JOHN]: actually in a sense is kind of not wanting to do this.

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[JOHN]: And Ashley just has to make an executive decision.

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[DEREK]: Yeah.

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[JOHN]: Well, get promoted to present.

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[DEREK]: Yeah.

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[DEREK]: And as the clip that we've chosen at the beginning of the episode, this has always been Ashley's, um,

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[DEREK]: Superpower even before she infected herself with, and with the V formula, her superpower is staying alive.

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[DEREK]: How is it possible that Ashley has made us to the penultimate episode of Season 5 from the first episode, because she has just constantly under threat of death, and she probably feels in that moment if you're going to take care of the president.

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[DEREK]: It's probably going to take me eight to, so I have to sacrifice myself, but yeah, vastly and actually no longer speaking at the end of that scene.

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[DEREK]: But back to my actual and my actual eighth standing moment from the episode, which is that after all of those moments, home lander goes and decides that the seven are no more.

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[DEREK]: and poor little Kevin, the deep is going, can you not just hand it over to me?

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[DEREK]: Can I not just have the second if you don't want it anymore?

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[DEREK]: What about everything I've done for you?

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[DEREK]: And of course, the deep has thrown aside because of it.

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[DEREK]: So completely lost after everything he's done and specifically last episode where he convinced the world the pipeline was a good idea and then the pipeline was exploded by Black Nguar, who he killed.

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[DEREK]: then now all the fish are turning on.

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[DEREK]: So he goes and stands down by the ocean and here's as I say, a very familiar voice from the deep Nick Fury himself, Samuel Jackson, voicing a hammerhead shark who comes to Kevin and tells him, we know exactly what you did.

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[DEREK]: And if you ever set foot in any body of water whatsoever, if it's uponed, if it's the ocean, if it's a puddle, we'll be there and we will kill you.

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[DEREK]: leading to what I think is another great comedy moment from the deep where he's standing standing there not knowing where to go and someone is draining rice beside and all the people that each are going what doesn't he help him and he's deep going

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[DEREK]: I love that he's calling his agents as well looking for places that he can move to and they're all land block places in America, places in the desert and that kind of stuff for the gun.

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[DEREK]: But the washer is like your thing man, you need to be somewhere beside the washer or we can't help you, we can't promote you and then he has to ignore someone draining in the ocean.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[JOHN]: I mean, it's great to have Samuel Jackson as ander the hammerhead shark.

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[JOHN]: Who's the one helping him try track a train and his brother?

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[JOHN]: Oh, yes.

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[JOHN]: And so I like though that, you know, with the knowledge

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[JOHN]: going around the oats, swirling, circulating in the currents of the ocean that it was Kevin who helped with the fish apocalypse, and that you have now Xander, the hammerhead shark telling him you're no longer welcome in the oceans.

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[JOHN]: in the lakes, in the rivers, or even a goddamn puddle, and if you step in, water, we're going to kill you.

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[JOHN]: And so the deep is really down on his own sort of luck here.

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[JOHN]: I think just coming back to the homeland of abolishing the seven.

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[JOHN]: I do like the fact that homeland is as well.

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[JOHN]: There's not been seven members of the seven for quite a while.

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[JOHN]: It's been a bit of a running joke, but you have the deep pleading with him and he's it's just homeland that says don't make this about yourself like this.

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[JOHN]: It's just so funny.

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[JOHN]: And then having the sharp moment with Zander really good.

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[JOHN]: So I kind of enjoyed the deep getting this moment.

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[JOHN]: It felt like a partial come-opance for the deep here because it's effectively being

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[JOHN]: the people or fish kinds that used to, and, you know,

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[JOHN]: treat him as their king.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, for sure.

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[DEREK]: So yeah, I can't have thought this was worth every moment.

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[DEREK]: Yes, there's the tea.

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[DEREK]: They've turned their gills on him and left him.

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[DEREK]: Asian, the dry, I guess, exactly.

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[DEREK]: Yes, but doesn't deserve any better.

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[DEREK]: It's the deep.

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[DEREK]: He's been a horrible, horrible man since the first one.

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[DEREK]: We met him in the first episode.

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[JOHN]: Absolutely.

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[JOHN]: So yeah, he's definitely got to get his come up.

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[DEREK]: And still wondering who's going to call his death.

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[DEREK]: At the end, prediction right now, since he killed off Black New Orleans, my prediction is Annie, is the one that takes him as we had said earlier on the season as well.

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[DEREK]: Since they had their confrontation and he ruined the whole idea of the seven for her right back in the first episode, it will make sense that she's the one that takes him out of the pleading for the seven to continue.

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[DEREK]: Because he's just killed Black New Orleans.

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[DEREK]: I love again, he goes to apologised for that to homeland, or we thought that was going to be a massive moment when he went into apologised homeland,

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[DEREK]: Because yeah, yeah, whatever, yes, that's what you guess you had to do.

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[DEREK]: It's so fine move on.

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[DEREK]: He's on other things like becoming the new savior.

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[DEREK]: Yeah, so that is my, my antagonist moment for the episode.

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[DEREK]: Let's go down to our final outstanding moments for the episode, John.

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[HOMELANDER]: Thank you.

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[HOMELANDER]: You have five minutes to make your openings to you.

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[JOHN]: Well, I think for me it's homeland sharing his father, soldier boy, homeland land, as well as with homeland amount, which is kind of a bit like Mount Rushmore in a sense where they can all sort of...

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[JOHN]: Neal or pray to their Lord and Savior, home under.

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[JOHN]: Yes, but he also says we have soljaboy land as well, which is gonna have a ticket tape prayed every evening Isn't this just like gonna be absolutely wonderful and soljaboy's just like

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[JOHN]: No, I want to go to Bogota and basically have sex all the way around South America and in a sense, all the drugs.

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[JOHN]: You just want to get away.

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[JOHN]: He says, I don't want to do this.

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[JOHN]: You have home and are saying,

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[JOHN]: you want to get away from this or from someone I mean and he's so good would it help if I said it's not you it's me and which is absolutely classic right I love that he calls him weird as well and it's a stuff how none of the kind of go-to-stop

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[DEREK]: Call of it.

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[DEREK]: Yeah, exactly.

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[DEREK]: That he gives our supernatural connection to this episode, he says, this was never going to be a fixing up the impala kind of thing.

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[DEREK]: Yeah, great little move.

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[DEREK]: The car that used to drive supernatural stuff.

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[JOHN]: Yeah.

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[JOHN]: And, you know, he reiterates to her mother, you know, he gave him the V1 because of Clara.

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[JOHN]: Nothing to do with him.

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[JOHN]: So, you know,

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[JOHN]: this kind of whole moment that Homer and I think soldier boys are ultimately going to say a round, he's got my Michelin style three Michelin style chef to cook stuff and all he has is jelly and sort of enchiladas or something and it had evened that.

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[JOHN]: It's like hot dogs and burgers jelly yeah and and

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[JOHN]: You know, all this thing, all this stuff that homeowners doing, he thinks, soldier boy wants it.

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[JOHN]: So he doesnts and he says, you know, plus you're not a god.

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[JOHN]: You had a wet tree in one, the house about a girl and her breasts.

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[JOHN]: If that's what it takes to be a god, then I'm fecking god every night.

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[JOHN]: Good luck, son.

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[JOHN]: It's gonna sign up and goes to leave.

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[JOHN]: Ultimately, it looks like home under it is going to allow me kind of, you know, soldier boy, Pat's home under are on the shoulder as he walks past him, but home under puts him into a chokehold and ultimately puts him back into his cryostasis in the chamber.

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[JOHN]: Um, back into storage effectively and you like him.

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[JOHN]: Okay.

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[JOHN]: So if he gets let out, uh, then

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[DEREK]: he's after home and so I know what he's going to be so angry people keep putting it into cryo freeze like it's time I know exactly it's like the at this stage it's like the third or fourth time he's been put into cryo states new

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[DEREK]: Yeah, put up a nice, it does, it does beg the question though, with all support rising coming next year, and we've seen a lot of connections to the upcoming Valt Rising series next season.

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[DEREK]: If we have soldier boy put on ice right now, will he stay on ice and will Valt rising the flashbacks to his time and then he wakes a later stage maybe you know, be quite interesting, but yeah, we'll see how that will happen next.

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[DEREK]: I'm assuming he's going to get released.

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[DEREK]: in the last step to search.

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[DEREK]: Yeah, it would be great to see a big team up of Billy and of Soldier Boy and Ryan may be coming back all three of them taking on home laughter like they tried to do back in the third season.

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[DEREK]: The holy trinity except just not very family.

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[JOHN]: Not very holy either.

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[JOHN]: Oh, holy.

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[DEREK]: But yeah, great moments here.

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[DEREK]: We're going to be a moment later at Soldier Boy.

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[DEREK]: What a real surprise that he six and back in the thank you.

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[DEREK]: Yeah.

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[JOHN]: Absolutely, Derek, what's your other outstanding moment?

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[DEREK]: I just wanted to mention this, just we talked to base, but by God you characters appearing here, we've been waiting for them all season, seeing Marie Moreau and Jordan the being called upon for their investigation that they've been doing into what's going on behind the scenes of

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[DEREK]: Homelander as team they they're the ones that reveal that something's going on in Vost Studios It needs to be taken care of and then once they reveal that and he goes thanks for your help Right off you go See you see you later Don't get involved or you'll die basically Like again, I get at these our college kids, you know, they've just just come out of college after their massive battle with with good open

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[DEREK]: They did win that battle, but Annie doesn't trust them to be involved in this massive war that's going on.

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[DEREK]: She believes that's for the boys to do.

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[DEREK]: Even though lots of these characters are very powerful.

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[DEREK]: But right here we only see the female side of Jordan Lee and we only see Marie Murrow.

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[DEREK]: We don't even guess the male side of Jordan Lee.

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[DEREK]: So just two characters from Gen V will be expected and to be quite major.

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[DEREK]: And the episode ends with the cliffhanger though, that does...

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[DEREK]: Annie brings Annie in M.M.

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[DEREK]: bring the saved former homelander fans over to them to help the nation says we need your help so hopefully next episode we'll see them going side-by-side by side.

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[DEREK]: Absolutely.

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[DEREK]: It would be great because as we've mentioned there's a couple of characters there from GenV who are now part of the resistance that could be really useful in this one.

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[DEREK]: Definitely.

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[JOHN]: Definitely.

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[JOHN]: So yeah I mean I think it's

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[JOHN]: a little bit of a shame that we've not had more of the characters of godju throughout this season.

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[JOHN]: I think it felt like that's what they were setting up to do and it doesn't feel like it's quite come off for whatever reason.

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[JOHN]: But it's good that they've at least got some participation here of the likes of Jordan Lee and Marie Maraud.

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[JOHN]: But at the same, you know, at least three or the key members of Gen V here that haven't been shown yet.

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[JOHN]: There are any of this season.

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[JOHN]: So it is a bit of a shame, I think that.

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[JOHN]: And for sure, but at least we have gotten something.

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[JOHN]: And at least it's a bit of a challenge to starlight, you know, starlight saying, you know, if you don't know naive and both Marie Muro and Jordan are like, but we've been risking our lives here, you know, and ultimately are like, effort, you know, we're going to continue to be this resistance, um, despite what she says.

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[JOHN]: So it's not, you know, until she and mother's milk bring and there's those former homeland true believers that aren't quite back to them.

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[JOHN]: And, you know, there is that little bit of a rift between them that they will continue to do what they're doing.

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[JOHN]: without the knowledge of starlight, so yeah, I kind of liked this little element, but again, it was quite small in the scheme of things and I do think it felt like there was sessing a way more in the gen B in the final season later.

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[JOHN]: unless it's maybe not quite as intelligent as maybe we would have hoped.

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[DEREK]: Well, as I say, you know, and he's there saying we need your help, so I'm hoping that we'll get that massive team up in the final episode where we have all the members of GenV, hopefully playing some part in the final battle.

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[DEREK]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[DEREK]: couple of notes from the episode.

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[DEREK]: When I went to the mention, it's just just interesting that we have another Billy Jill song.

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[DEREK]: I know Billy Jill has been all the way through every episode of all sorts of these shows, but they play good night's Saigon, play on Hughie's headphones.

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[DEREK]: It's kind of almond, it's really because it's the song about the life on the front lines during Vietnam.

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[DEREK]: And we're just about to go into the final episode of the show where we're probably going to lose more people.

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[DEREK]: So just kind of almond us that they chose.

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[DEREK]: That's the same song for this

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[JOHN]: Yeah.

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[JOHN]: And the only other kind of notes from me is we do get Mothers milk the reason for his name, which is that he was mullering a bird back to health.

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[JOHN]: And was kind of ridiculed for us.

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[JOHN]: Yeah.

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[JOHN]: But he was proud.

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[JOHN]: He was he liked what he had done.

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[JOHN]: So he's been mullering ever since.

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[JOHN]: Really.

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[JOHN]: Yeah.

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[DEREK]: And this is named obviously

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[DEREK]: Yeah, and they say, no, not a great leap, even for those idiots to jump to mother's milk and ever since has been the mother of the group.

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[JOHN]: Yeah, the only other last one from me is I did kind of hint to actually get the presidency here, but I do like she says, I lost every single student council election, just let me enjoy this for once because she's kind of having a bit of a fight actually as with bashfully,

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[JOHN]: about the rights and wrongs of taking this presidency after homeland has killed Stephen.

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[JOHN]: And Bashli is like,

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[JOHN]: believes actually you're never going to hear from me again you're free and as she says that Ashley begins to sob around the enormity of maybe what she's got on her plate here and quite how tiptoey she might have to be to bridge Congress the White House and homeland.

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[JOHN]: So yeah she is kind of in the lines then.

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[JOHN]: despite her one thing to care the presidency because of the nightmares of her student council action.

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[DEREK]: Absolutely, actually it just feels like again Ashley is the character who's been in the lion's den since the very first moment we saw her in the first episode.

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[DEREK]: You just felt she's gonna die, someone's gonna go out here she is right at the end in the presidency of all places

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[DEREK]: I've just got one final note myself as well, because we have to mention we get the official Spice Girl speech from Belief for this episode.

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[DEREK]: A staple going back to the first season.

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[DEREK]: I'd love to just line all of those up and just see how you do a speech about each member of the Spice Girls.

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[DEREK]: As the seasons have gone on this time, it's trying to encourage the team using Spice as an example.

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[DEREK]: Dispenser, I'll be a straw back, including the tragic inability to smile.

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[JOHN]: She didn't give up and we won't either I kind of just put it in my notes really butcher gives the posh spice petal.

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[JOHN]: There you go, posh I can't really say it on the podcast, but

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[JOHN]: Posh, the worst of spices for the man, but when making all the money, she's completely scuttle the clothing line.

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[DEREK]: She's nice.

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[JOHN]: She's, she's, she's, she's, she's knitted by the British royalty.

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[JOHN]: And she, her fashion lines are in the first five days of the Paris fashion show, all this.

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[JOHN]: So yeah, great little pep to it.

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[DEREK]: And I love that each of the members of the boys are like, you have talks for all of these.

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[DEREK]: But I know we give a lot of props to the writers of the show for predicting things that are happening in the White House, where different things are happening in politics and the U.S.

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[DEREK]: But just interesting that they predicted that post-bice would still be relevant this year because they had the big breakup with their son in the last six months.

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[DEREK]: Even that, even just a throwaway pop culture gag that's been going on since the first season is still relevant this year, absolutely.

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[DEREK]: Oh, that's it for our chas all about this episode, but Jada overall.

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[DEREK]: What did you think of the penultimate episode of the boys?

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[JOHN]: I really like this penultimate episode.

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[JOHN]: I'll give it five vortality, swag bags, out of five.

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[JOHN]: I just really enjoyed the flow of this episode from the opening musical number, the VIP focus groups and promo that's being tested.

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[JOHN]: just the continuing sort of desperation of home under to be liked.

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[JOHN]: And if he's not, then his patience has gone, kill them effectively.

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[JOHN]: Frenchy-dying massive.

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[JOHN]: And I think just how that plays out with seeing what he's

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[JOHN]: been doing with Kameko's consent to radiate, so that they have something akin to soldier boys' power so that they can look to try and depower home under, coupled with sister sages involvement in that.

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[JOHN]: I just thought it was really good, but there's so many little things like with the deep, with Ashley, that all come through here, which are just fantastic.

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[JOHN]: And I think even the stuff with

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[JOHN]: So Naps and here we am Billy all I think really meaningful given Billy has seen and has come to the same decision as what sign-ups

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[JOHN]: does via a castler in terms of that story that Billy Boucher will sacrifice anyone.

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[JOHN]: So if it means he reaches his objective.

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[JOHN]: Yes.

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[JOHN]: And even if it might be a shared one, it's his and he will push people into the line of fire.

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[JOHN]: If he's the one that sees it

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[DEREK]: Fantastic.

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[DEREK]: Fantastic.

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[DEREK]: Yeah, overall really like this episode.

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[DEREK]: Something was a good send off for Frenchy, a major character from the first episode of the show.

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[DEREK]: I think that's a massive thing to do.

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[DEREK]: It was just a bit odd that we didn't see it on screen, given again the death of a major character.

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[DEREK]: But they probably just said, you know, probably can't show what we've actually done here with the character.

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[DEREK]: So I guess we'll have to wait for the behind the scenes to have the real information behind what happened there.

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[DEREK]: a little bit of a shame that we're not seeing the Gen V cast, that's my own the other drawback from the episode.

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[DEREK]: I have just a moment of them here.

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[DEREK]: I hope hope we'll see more of them in the final episode just to change not to in there but still some great moments in this episode also loved the American Eagle TV show as well, where it's been canceled because the universe is being rebooted so they've turned it into a whole propaganda machine just for the final episode,

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[JOHN]: absolutely.

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[JOHN]: Let us get into our boys season five pub quiz.

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[JOHN]: A drink is required after all the shenanigans going on in this episode.

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[DEREK]: Absolutely John, do you want to give the seventh question for the pub quiz?

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[JOHN]: Yes, fellow boys and girls, fellow quizzes, questions seven.

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[JOHN]: What is the name of the top plus stake house in Reno?

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[JOHN]: Now is that a stake house that doesn't have a roof job?

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[JOHN]: think it might be.

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[JOHN]: That's what I would interpret it as being.

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[JOHN]: We're very innocent until TV broadcasted.

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[JOHN]: We're very nice.

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[JOHN]: Do you want to give the question one more time, Tom?

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[JOHN]: Yes.

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[DEREK]: What is the name of the top-less state chaos in Reno?

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[DEREK]: The minute I heard the question in the episode.

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[DEREK]: Uh, I knew this was going to be your question for for the poke quiz great stuff.

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[DEREK]: That is the seventh of ice questions for our boys poke quiz.

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[DEREK]: I got it together all the answers at the end of the season and email us to feedback at TV podcast industry.com and you could be in the chance of getting your hands on some boys goodies.

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[JOHN]: Yes.

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[JOHN]: Absolutely.

01:00:18.619 --> 01:00:18.759
[JOHN]: Yeah.

01:00:18.799 --> 01:00:21.400
[JOHN]: Let's get over to the feedback for this episode.

01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:21.740
[JOHN]: Yes.

01:00:22.160 --> 01:00:26.042
[JOHN]: First up, we have a voicemail from Ethan Wang.

01:00:26.082 --> 01:00:26.342
[JOHN]: Yeah.

01:00:30.288 --> 01:00:31.791
[ETHAN WANG]: Thank you for the memes.

01:00:32.752 --> 01:00:34.154
[ETHAN WANG]: Thank you for the memes.

01:00:36.610 --> 01:00:38.130
[JOHN]: Was that all of it?

01:00:38.631 --> 01:00:39.711
[JOHN]: Or did you repeat it?

01:00:40.391 --> 01:00:42.992
[JOHN]: No, that was, that was the voicemail passage.

01:00:43.632 --> 01:00:44.552
[JOHN]: I haven't heard that.

01:00:45.652 --> 01:00:49.113
[JOHN]: Well, thank you, Ethan, for the voicemail.

01:00:49.133 --> 01:00:51.554
[DEREK]: So the voicemail and for enjoying the means.

01:00:51.734 --> 01:00:54.955
[DEREK]: Yeah, we don't do beams on the podcast, but it just goes through.

01:00:55.115 --> 01:01:04.038
[DEREK]: If you pop on our website at tvpodcastindustries.com, you can record a voicemail and we may just play it on the podcast, even if it's not collected to the show or anything that we're covering.

01:01:05.738 --> 01:01:09.900
[JOHN]: Yes, I think I've got it sort of now to the music of Alba.

01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:12.561
[JOHN]: Thank you for the means.

01:01:12.641 --> 01:01:16.223
[JOHN]: Maybe I'll show you.

01:01:16.463 --> 01:01:19.765
[JOHN]: I think it must have been a mistake.

01:01:19.945 --> 01:01:21.045
[JOHN]: It feels like spam.

01:01:21.446 --> 01:01:24.067
[JOHN]: Just put spam into the feedback section.

01:01:24.287 --> 01:01:30.072
[DEREK]: Well, you know, we do get a loss of a lot of spam, a lot of people trying to sell us stuff, and I don't really know those emails.

01:01:30.132 --> 01:01:33.035
[DEREK]: I just thought if you're recording a voice mail, you can pop on the website.

01:01:33.355 --> 01:01:34.496
[DEREK]: We will play it on the podcast.

01:01:34.516 --> 01:01:34.736
[DEREK]: Absolutely.

01:01:34.816 --> 01:01:38.559
[DEREK]: Unless it's a fan tour or unless it's something that we're not going to play, but I just thought it was a bit funny to be honest.

01:01:38.860 --> 01:01:39.880
[DEREK]: So thank you very much, Ethan.

01:01:40.141 --> 01:01:40.241
[DEREK]: Yes.

01:01:40.261 --> 01:01:41.682
[DEREK]: Do you have a real voice mail in?

01:01:41.962 --> 01:01:42.543
[JOHN]: Absolutely.

01:01:42.623 --> 01:01:43.243
[JOHN]: Thanks, Ethan.

01:01:43.864 --> 01:01:48.508
[JOHN]: Yes, the real voice mail comes through from Harrison Fox.

01:01:49.168 --> 01:01:49.929
[JOHN]: Still a great name.

01:01:50.469 --> 01:01:50.910
[DEREK]: Yes, it is.

01:01:52.430 --> 01:02:00.932
[HARRISON FOX]: Hi boys and girls, Harrison Fox calling to discuss the penultimate episode of the boys, just a fabulous, fabulous episode.

01:02:01.712 --> 01:02:03.313
[HARRISON FOX]: Nice to see David dig singing.

01:02:03.813 --> 01:02:07.394
[HARRISON FOX]: How do you have a Hamilton star in a show and not let him bust out a few notes, right?

01:02:08.134 --> 01:02:13.576
[HARRISON FOX]: Seeing Jeffrey Dean Morgan was great through the psychic synapses, amazing power.

01:02:13.996 --> 01:02:17.257
[HARRISON FOX]: And he also had an amazing shirt and made me laugh.

01:02:23.078 --> 01:02:43.415
[HARRISON FOX]: his old self bustling out the wipes after a job well done taken out she line and she line and dog not greedy each other I almost threw up so yeah I almost threw up during the episode and then I almost cried at the end which it's the boys who thought that the boys would put me on the verge of tears

01:02:49.200 --> 01:02:51.240
[HARRISON FOX]: I bet you never danced that day in your life.

01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:53.401
[HARRISON FOX]: That line hit so hard.

01:02:54.181 --> 01:02:55.501
[HARRISON FOX]: It was such a good line.

01:02:55.541 --> 01:02:57.502
[HARRISON FOX]: You could see it really hit home wonder.

01:02:58.102 --> 01:03:01.543
[HARRISON FOX]: And you saw it on his face, fabulous episode.

01:03:02.183 --> 01:03:04.123
[HARRISON FOX]: Very excited to see where everything's going.

01:03:04.723 --> 01:03:09.524
[HARRISON FOX]: I like that they called out the running gag about how they're have not been seven members of the seven.

01:03:10.084 --> 01:03:10.784
[HARRISON FOX]: In forever?

01:03:12.145 --> 01:03:13.765
[HARRISON FOX]: No, it's all wrapping up really nicely.

01:03:14.475 --> 01:03:17.516
[HARRISON FOX]: five hopefully nuclear commico's out of five.

01:03:18.296 --> 01:03:19.276
[HARRISON FOX]: Can't wait to hear you guys say.

01:03:19.617 --> 01:03:19.957
[HARRISON FOX]: Take care.

01:03:20.457 --> 01:03:21.037
[HARRISON FOX]: Enjoy holiday.

01:03:22.657 --> 01:03:25.538
[HARRISON FOX]: Sorry, quick follow up to my boys' voicemail.

01:03:26.859 --> 01:03:36.241
[HARRISON FOX]: Just wanted to say that a couple of days ago, a certain blonde-haired narcissist was given a 22-foot gold statue.

01:03:38.862 --> 01:03:41.903
[HARRISON FOX]: I'll let you figure out who that is and how that relates to the boys.

01:03:42.927 --> 01:03:45.050
[JOHN]: Thank you, excellent Harrison.

01:03:45.090 --> 01:03:46.852
[JOHN]: Thanks so much for the voice mail.

01:03:46.992 --> 01:03:56.583
[JOHN]: I think you may have some dropped most people's journey on this episode from almost throwing up to being emotionally devastated by the end with the death of friendship.

01:04:00.107 --> 01:04:06.652
[JOHN]: Yeah, I think really good episodes right there with you with the 5 out of 5.

01:04:06.912 --> 01:04:19.940
[JOHN]: I think despite I get the whole gen V stuff and even I think just a little cut, there will edit that happens a little odd, but overall I think great having this episode.

01:04:19.961 --> 01:04:23.203
[JOHN]: I just say Geoffrey Dean Morgan as well, another little

01:04:24.653 --> 01:04:38.905
[JOHN]: nougat of gold just thrown in there and and and you're absolutely right as well as they're having mentioned about Davy digs great to get that musical number so good and

01:04:40.887 --> 01:04:47.532
[JOHN]: I can't say my church ever sort of promoted itself in that way, as I was growing up as a kid.

01:04:47.572 --> 01:04:55.177
[JOHN]: No, it was because the church of England tended not to do that and have sort of sexy dancers having sort of

01:04:56.598 --> 01:05:00.120
[JOHN]: pulsing their bosoms in the around the the vicar.

01:05:00.680 --> 01:05:10.585
[DEREK]: No, definitely that the best we had when we were kids wasn't that the the folk singers would come in with their acoustic guitars and have everybody sing along as tell of using the the traditional hymns.

01:05:11.486 --> 01:05:15.288
[JOHN]: Yeah, I guess that was yeah, but that was trying to to modernize it.

01:05:15.728 --> 01:05:27.640
[DEREK]: Yeah, yeah, modernized somewhere in the 40s or 50s maybe we're gonna introduce the get-tall And get just a guitar you don't have to sing in the Latin anymore Oh, that put me out of a job.

01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:30.343
[JOHN]: I was I was quite boy you were yeah

01:05:30.923 --> 01:05:34.705
[JOHN]: pure as the driven snow was a sigh, something like that.

01:05:35.225 --> 01:05:41.147
[JOHN]: Well, that's a, and loads of pearly mints on the back row of the choir stool.

01:05:41.227 --> 01:05:41.608
[DEREK]: Okay.

01:05:41.908 --> 01:05:42.408
[DEREK]: Interesting.

01:05:42.488 --> 01:05:44.069
[DEREK]: I think we will move on from that.

01:05:44.329 --> 01:05:44.689
[DEREK]: Absolutely.

01:05:44.729 --> 01:05:45.689
[DEREK]: And to write e-bells down.

01:05:45.909 --> 01:05:46.570
[JOHN]: Excellent stuff.

01:05:46.710 --> 01:05:48.831
[JOHN]: Thanks, Harrison, for the voice mail.

01:05:48.891 --> 01:05:56.694
[JOHN]: And yes, I think I might have a little sort of nugget of an understanding who the the gold sicker fans might be.

01:05:56.734 --> 01:05:57.034
[JOHN]: Oh, yes.

01:05:57.414 --> 01:05:59.015
[JOHN]: And I see that there's,

01:05:59.555 --> 01:06:05.377
[JOHN]: some kind of triamphal arch being suggested with a big gold statue.

01:06:05.597 --> 01:06:17.800
[DEREK]: Right, so I can't even pay attention to it anymore, because the only thing I really want to pay attention to is the abstinence files, which he's just consistently trying to make us now to say attention to by just the crazy, crazy, crazy efforts.

01:06:18.040 --> 01:06:20.381
[DEREK]: But we will see what happens with that.

01:06:20.881 --> 01:06:21.781
[DEREK]: Let's move on to remover.

01:06:22.867 --> 01:06:23.467
[JOHN]: Absolutely.

01:06:24.468 --> 01:06:28.670
[JOHN]: First up, an email from Coffee and vodka on this week's episode.

01:06:28.910 --> 01:06:32.272
[JOHN]: He says, greetings, fellow dinner and a show defenders.

01:06:32.672 --> 01:06:35.774
[JOHN]: This episode really requires a live Steve.

01:06:36.014 --> 01:06:37.755
[JOHN]: As I know, I'll be missing a lot.

01:06:38.015 --> 01:06:44.038
[JOHN]: First, if that's what church has become, I just may have to step off the atheist pack.

01:06:45.138 --> 01:06:51.082
[JOHN]: They're the well, Frenchy, and hello to the new, improved, if-greaving, Camico.

01:06:51.563 --> 01:06:55.205
[JOHN]: Looks like your prediction of Ashley's rise to power was spot on.

01:06:55.706 --> 01:07:00.209
[JOHN]: Mothers, milk, words to Annie, were some of the best the show has produced.

01:07:00.629 --> 01:07:08.895
[JOHN]: And though for Shadow's last episode, it was nice to see the deep kicked out of the waterways by Samuel L. Jackson, no less.

01:07:09.375 --> 01:07:13.358
[JOHN]: Looks like we know how he's going to kick the book it dehydration.

01:07:13.959 --> 01:07:18.423
[JOHN]: Finally, homeland's disbanding of the seven was a surprisingly lucid.

01:07:19.103 --> 01:07:24.187
[JOHN]: So much more, and we almost got the gem v crew to boot one more and done.

01:07:24.648 --> 01:07:30.413
[JOHN]: Four popsicles, but less frescoes and chickens of the sea out of five.

01:07:30.833 --> 01:07:31.714
[JOHN]: Peace and take care.

01:07:32.294 --> 01:07:33.155
[JOHN]: Coffee and vodka.

01:07:34.156 --> 01:07:36.578
[DEREK]: Excellent, thanks, coffee and vodka for your thoughts there.

01:07:38.419 --> 01:07:54.591
[DEREK]: I don't think this is what church has become, and I'll be completely honest, if any church, even if it was fun to listen to the dance number, if any church was monitoring everything I did to find out whether I was a true believer or not before exploding my head, I wouldn't be a member of that church.

01:07:55.732 --> 01:07:56.392
[JOHN]: Well, that's true.

01:07:57.393 --> 01:08:00.855
[JOHN]: I mean, yeah, the gospel singers were great in the background.

01:08:00.935 --> 01:08:06.118
[DEREK]: Yeah, like it was a good Gye, it's certainly what certainly was a great song.

01:08:06.518 --> 01:08:09.920
[DEREK]: Yeah, yeah, I love now I kind of liked it.

01:08:10.100 --> 01:08:13.862
[JOHN]: It was just so well done and that you know, yes, it was there to promote

01:08:14.502 --> 01:08:35.975
[JOHN]: home and as the second coming buddy equally it was like the book of Mormon just taking the rip out of everything that they even jallical churches that basically just want money i mean they're just one big collection plates and nothing else and exactly it's just really funny yeah thanks so much

01:08:36.795 --> 01:08:37.995
[DEREK]: Yet, thanks coffee and vodka.

01:08:38.215 --> 01:08:40.076
[DEREK]: We will move on to our discord feedback.

01:08:40.096 --> 01:08:44.896
[DEREK]: First of Dr. Bob says, you know that sense of wonder and disbelief you get when you stand before a masterpiece.

01:08:45.157 --> 01:08:47.337
[DEREK]: You might have seen online or in prints a million times.

01:08:47.897 --> 01:08:55.638
[DEREK]: Dally, John of the Cross, the Night Watch, and take in the pieces of the hole and you still can't quite describe it, as it feels so hilarious at once.

01:08:56.038 --> 01:08:57.079
[DEREK]: That's where this lands.

01:08:57.379 --> 01:09:04.480
[DEREK]: The Arker Frenchu, who was doomed as he dreamed of Marseille, holding the female with her irreversibly irradiated ovaries and alking of children.

01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:21.591
[DEREK]: The vicious spiraling of the god incarnate, executive orders, gushing like a sewer near a British beach, the attempt of saying butcher, when we've seen them become increasingly parental, learning from his team, and truly becoming the mummy special codler with a heart, the deep, finally,

01:09:26.634 --> 01:09:28.756
[JOHN]: Excellent stuff, very good.

01:09:28.816 --> 01:09:38.482
[JOHN]: Dr. Bob, yes, yeah, the executive orders were absolutely a lot of verbal sewer.

01:09:39.383 --> 01:09:46.588
[JOHN]: It's going on, but it was really funny, and yes, there wasn't so accurate of what was like that.

01:09:46.628 --> 01:09:47.048
[DEREK]: Excellent.

01:09:47.509 --> 01:09:50.691
[DEREK]: So sadly, close to the real truth.

01:09:51.611 --> 01:10:07.359
[DEREK]: Of course, yes, you mentioned that the death of the deep hopefully being completely an awfully destroyed and a little Coffee vodka mentioned that he's going to die of dehydration Yeah, there it is like humans are about 80% water out there, so I guess the deep will have to start

01:10:08.299 --> 01:10:13.523
[DEREK]: moving the water out of his body if he's not going to be killed by whatever fish he comes close to him.

01:10:13.583 --> 01:10:15.724
[JOHN]: Yeah, he could slowly desecate, couldn't he?

01:10:15.744 --> 01:10:17.566
[JOHN]: That would be quite interesting.

01:10:17.586 --> 01:10:18.747
[JOHN]: It would be interesting.

01:10:18.807 --> 01:10:19.247
[JOHN]: Good stuff.

01:10:19.287 --> 01:10:20.428
[JOHN]: Thanks very much for that.

01:10:20.448 --> 01:10:20.868
[JOHN]: That's about it.

01:10:20.888 --> 01:10:21.829
[JOHN]: Yeah, thanks Dr. Bob.

01:10:22.449 --> 01:10:26.072
[JOHN]: And also on Discord, Theresa says, over the heartbreak.

01:10:26.452 --> 01:10:37.235
[JOHN]: While I have loved every character on the show, none of them not even Huey could bring the humanity the way that the drug addicted gun-ronding French assassin could.

01:10:37.655 --> 01:10:47.798
[JOHN]: We can't wait for the final episode and find out how this amazing story is brought to a conclusion, but no matter how fantastic the finale is, it will feel a little empty without him.

01:10:48.438 --> 01:10:52.099
[JOHN]: RIP Frenchy used saved me, as he says.

01:10:52.639 --> 01:10:53.039
[JOHN]: P.S.

01:10:53.380 --> 01:10:59.803
[JOHN]: I wonder if maves will make an appearance, not sure what she would do, but it would be interesting.

01:11:00.544 --> 01:11:02.125
[JOHN]: Definitely agree with that, Theresa.

01:11:02.245 --> 01:11:09.429
[JOHN]: I'm kind of surprised we haven't seen maves pop up maybe earlier than now.

01:11:09.509 --> 01:11:14.031
[JOHN]: So I guess fingers crossed that maybe she makes an appearance for the final episode.

01:11:14.192 --> 01:11:15.152
[DEREK]: I'd love to see her.

01:11:15.312 --> 01:11:19.855
[DEREK]: Dominic McGillagus is such a grace actress, really enjoyed her on the show so far.

01:11:20.455 --> 01:11:26.183
[DEREK]: I know she does a lot of cons and we haven't met her at a convention yet and she's doing a lot of of convention touring as well.

01:11:28.240 --> 01:11:34.201
[DEREK]: wonder because they have brought her back in the past to take out home lander and kind of seal sealed her story quite well.

01:11:35.062 --> 01:11:55.786
[DEREK]: I would suspect we won't see her back but it would be great just for the just for the symmetry of it to have her appear in the final episode since she was the first soup to appear I think in the first episode was not she stood in front of the van, the van, crushed her end or before home lander arrived even so we've seen her right the way back to the start of the show so yeah absolutely kind of cool to see her again.

01:11:56.027 --> 01:12:05.511
[JOHN]: Yeah, and I think, you know, as you say, just French is saying, you save me and so can we go, just really, really touching.

01:12:05.891 --> 01:12:06.031
[DEREK]: Yeah.

01:12:06.251 --> 01:12:06.411
[JOHN]: Yeah.

01:12:06.691 --> 01:12:07.531
[DEREK]: Yeah.

01:12:07.611 --> 01:12:08.392
[DEREK]: Thanks for that, Theresa.

01:12:08.672 --> 01:12:08.812
[DEREK]: Yeah.

01:12:08.832 --> 01:12:09.492
[DEREK]: Thanks, Theresa.

01:12:10.032 --> 01:12:11.033
[DEREK]: Joe Hurps says.

01:12:11.633 --> 01:12:14.474
[DEREK]: Home ladders should just laser people, much less mess to clean up.

01:12:15.375 --> 01:12:16.996
[DEREK]: That ending hit hard.

01:12:17.296 --> 01:12:20.577
[DEREK]: It really doesn't feel like a penultimate episode of a series curious how wraps up.

01:12:20.898 --> 01:12:22.939
[DEREK]: I'm guessing more hopeful than the show often is.

01:12:23.259 --> 01:12:24.900
[DEREK]: They seem to be heading in that direction, at least.

01:12:25.340 --> 01:12:32.043
[DEREK]: I was thinking it might be soldier boy who finally takes out home lander, but now wondering if it's Camico and perhaps Ryan, who we haven't seen in a while.

01:12:32.463 --> 01:12:34.724
[DEREK]: And someone, something has to finish off the deep.

01:12:35.165 --> 01:12:35.905
[DEREK]: Maybe a dolphin?

01:12:36.886 --> 01:12:48.820
[DEREK]: I think the whole school, maybe of Delvin's, yeah, it would take dolphins, sharks, crackings from the deep who knows what kind of, what kind of fish live in puzzles.

01:12:50.041 --> 01:12:50.582
[DEREK]: Crugs barn?

01:12:50.762 --> 01:12:51.463
[DEREK]: No, they're not fish.

01:12:51.963 --> 01:12:53.806
[JOHN]: Does he control frogs?

01:12:54.286 --> 01:12:54.926
[JOHN]: They're amphibians.

01:12:55.087 --> 01:12:55.907
[JOHN]: They're amphibians.

01:12:56.327 --> 01:12:57.608
[JOHN]: Only when they're immortal, I guess.

01:12:57.688 --> 01:12:59.069
[DEREK]: Maybe.

01:12:59.349 --> 01:13:02.771
[DEREK]: But yes, whatever it lives it in a puddle, as he's walking down the street in the rain.

01:13:03.292 --> 01:13:03.952
[DEREK]: My take a match.

01:13:04.072 --> 01:13:04.312
[DEREK]: Yeah.

01:13:04.412 --> 01:13:05.313
[DEREK]: But yeah.

01:13:05.553 --> 01:13:08.655
[JOHN]: Definitely agree with you on the laser.

01:13:08.915 --> 01:13:12.177
[JOHN]: Certainly seeing him wiped his hands on the couch in the overlap.

01:13:12.978 --> 01:13:14.639
[JOHN]: And yeah, I think the ending is...

01:13:15.159 --> 01:13:17.881
[JOHN]: Is there good or good punch for everyone?

01:13:18.162 --> 01:13:39.079
[DEREK]: Yeah, I feel like homelander probably needs the power of maybe the void bulb from Thunderbolts where it does not have a stronger than just disappears because he seems like he's set up to kill a lot of people if he's going to kill non-believers and amongst his most faithful people, only 20% of them were interested in them being their new Lord or believed that he could be the new Lord.

01:13:39.219 --> 01:13:43.082
[DEREK]: So, yeah, I guess cleanup is going to be a big issue.

01:13:43.673 --> 01:13:44.794
[JOHN]: Yeah, definitely.

01:13:44.814 --> 01:13:46.034
[JOHN]: Thanks a lot, Joe.

01:13:46.554 --> 01:13:47.075
[JOHN]: Thanks, Joe.

01:13:47.615 --> 01:13:55.478
[JOHN]: Ken Logsays really enjoyed the episode, but still wondering how the hell are they going to wrap up this in one more episode.

01:13:55.938 --> 01:13:57.639
[JOHN]: Next week is going to be a banner.

01:13:57.999 --> 01:14:00.841
[JOHN]: I'm also not understanding the hate online for this season.

01:14:00.961 --> 01:14:03.882
[JOHN]: I've been enjoying it immensely, though it's not perfect.

01:14:04.682 --> 01:14:31.107
[JOHN]: Thanks Ken Logk, yeah, I mean, it's interesting, it feels to still quite a lot of moving parts and still quite a lot of people who are alive, actually, and I think, I think as well for me, it's like the Gen V thing, or it's like Queen Maeve, I'm like, oh, how are they going to fit them in, and maybe ultimately they won't, or even with soldier boy, maybe he is still just in the cry of Stasis,

01:14:34.608 --> 01:14:49.722
[DEREK]: and they'll know right now are wonderful fellow boys and girls we'll know we'll know about half an hour yeah so yeah it'll be interesting how how they close it out and I guess you're talking about closing at the show the boys

01:14:51.403 --> 01:14:59.126
[DEREK]: And we do have, you know, we know this spin-offs, you know the thought rising, the prequel, we know there's the boys, Mexico is still potentially your coming as well.

01:14:59.206 --> 01:15:04.989
[DEREK]: So we know that it doesn't have to close out the whole world of soups and put a fine point in it.

01:15:05.369 --> 01:15:12.633
[DEREK]: And really when you think about it, the villains of the show, the seven, have been wittled all the way down to just the deep and homeland, right?

01:15:12.973 --> 01:15:18.376
[DEREK]: And actually maybe if you consider her one of the bad guys, but if she had bad guys, she's just someone that keeps herself alive.

01:15:18.796 --> 01:15:43.770
[DEREK]: but you know the seven have been disbanded and it's only the deep and homelander who they have to go against and now well father of course sorry he came in this season but you know sister say he just gone over to the other side um we've just lost friendship but that leaves us with our good guys versus our bad guys and really it's just taking it homelander that that and that should be enough to close out this yet and so that's all they have to accomplish in one episode and episode is over an hour long so

01:15:44.330 --> 01:15:45.391
[DEREK]: You can do that in an air catcher.

01:15:45.491 --> 01:15:49.054
[DEREK]: You can set up the battle with the villain and from start to finish.

01:15:49.074 --> 01:15:49.775
[DEREK]: Yeah, I guess.

01:15:49.815 --> 01:15:56.280
[DEREK]: So we always give credit to TV shows that are able to deal with multiple storylines and close the mate in a final episode.

01:15:56.320 --> 01:16:01.364
[DEREK]: But I don't think it's the last of the universe anyway, but they will probably close out.

01:16:01.864 --> 01:16:05.705
[DEREK]: the storylines of these characters as best they can in the final episode.

01:16:05.725 --> 01:16:08.105
[DEREK]: I don't think it's too much to ask in one episode.

01:16:08.526 --> 01:16:11.986
[DEREK]: I don't really know what the online reaction has been for this season.

01:16:12.727 --> 01:16:17.908
[DEREK]: What I do know is that 55 million people have watched the boys and that's the highest viewership.

01:16:18.568 --> 01:16:27.530
[DEREK]: The boys has ever had during its season on so maybe having that many more eyes on there means there's that much more talk about it every week so you're probably seeing a bit more.

01:16:28.010 --> 01:16:32.654
[DEREK]: of the negative reaction from people because people love to hate on things especially when they're not finished.

01:16:33.134 --> 01:16:34.455
[JOHN]: Yeah, that's true.

01:16:35.035 --> 01:16:47.324
[JOHN]: I haven't really seen too much hate online either but like yourself, canlogg, being really enjoying it so I think that's all you can or you can really go with and but thanks for your thoughts, canlogg.

01:16:48.525 --> 01:17:01.650
[JOHN]: Also on Discord, Jason Beez says it's pretty impressive that a show can have two adults, sniffing out each other's back size to smell what each other had for lunch, to then switch up to one of the most heartbreaking moments in the show.

01:17:02.626 --> 01:17:11.492
[JOHN]: Yet, even though I had a feeling Frenchy and Camille here weren't going to have their happy ending, it was still a gut punch when she breaks him not to leave her.

01:17:11.993 --> 01:17:20.539
[JOHN]: Side note is going to be a bit sad when this show is over and the misses will no longer yell out, what in the hell are you watching?

01:17:20.839 --> 01:17:29.245
[JOHN]: I can absolutely say it Jason would be, um, I can absolutely sense that that is the case for a lot of people watching this show in the world.

01:17:29.445 --> 01:17:33.930
[JOHN]: Or where to go, oh, we should try this and it's like, what are we just seeing?

01:17:34.010 --> 01:17:34.971
[JOHN]: I don't know.

01:17:35.131 --> 01:17:41.077
[JOHN]: So yeah, it will be a little odd not having this to watch, but yeah, that is funny.

01:17:41.117 --> 01:17:47.363
[DEREK]: I keep seeing that in threads because threads keep throwing up things about the shows that we cover on TV podcast industry and clip in the boys.

01:17:47.403 --> 01:17:49.285
[DEREK]: So does throw up the occasional one where people...

01:17:49.945 --> 01:17:57.209
[DEREK]: are starting, the boys are starting invincible, think invincible is a cartoon show and then by the end of the first episode they're like, what am I watching?

01:17:57.569 --> 01:18:01.591
[DEREK]: And same with the boys, we're very quickly in that first episode.

01:18:01.611 --> 01:18:07.134
[DEREK]: It tells you whether you're going to enjoy the show or not, whether you can put up with the extremes that the boys goes to.

01:18:07.435 --> 01:18:08.775
[DEREK]: And let's always don't laugh for the start.

01:18:08.795 --> 01:18:13.778
[DEREK]: So, I'm sure it'll be interesting for you for your poor Mrs. who's had to put up with this every week.

01:18:14.619 --> 01:18:15.259
[JOHN]: Absolutely.

01:18:15.360 --> 01:18:16.100
[JOHN]: Thanks Jason.

01:18:16.361 --> 01:18:17.362
[JOHN]: Yes, thanks Jason.

01:18:17.402 --> 01:18:19.524
[DEREK]: Let's move over to Facebook for a final piece of the feedback.

01:18:19.985 --> 01:18:22.748
[DEREK]: David Mr. Rogers says it really is hard to close out of series.

01:18:22.988 --> 01:18:25.271
[DEREK]: I feel that the season has been rushed and it's all over the place.

01:18:25.531 --> 01:18:29.115
[DEREK]: They probably should have gone for 10 to 12 episodes to fully perfect it.

01:18:29.436 --> 01:18:33.080
[DEREK]: Now I've enjoyed every minute of it, but this has probably been their weakest season thus far.

01:18:33.480 --> 01:18:35.362
[DEREK]: The smartest person's kryptonisers love.

01:18:35.742 --> 01:18:37.444
[DEREK]: Sister Sages are better than that.

01:18:37.744 --> 01:18:39.886
[DEREK]: It will be interested to see how they close at all age.

01:18:40.226 --> 01:18:46.512
[DEREK]: Side note is it just me or do you guys look at OG Noir and new Noir differently even though it's the same character.

01:18:46.812 --> 01:18:51.776
[DEREK]: When Noir got killed by the deep first thing I thought was man, Old Noir would never let this happen.

01:18:52.076 --> 01:18:58.162
[DEREK]: Kudos to the actor for giving both Noir's different personalities, without much dialogue, Old Noir through body language.

01:18:58.422 --> 01:18:59.323
[DEREK]: Thanks David for that.

01:18:59.863 --> 01:19:14.007
[DEREK]: Yeah, I definitely look at the two as completely different characters, you know, once Walsh Nuar was murdered and replaced by this Nuar, I've almost been treating him in my mind like Ashley, you know, will he get through the season?

01:19:14.307 --> 01:19:17.669
[DEREK]: Because he, yes, he has Paris that he can fly, can't he?

01:19:17.689 --> 01:19:26.771
[DEREK]: And he obviously can speak, which, you know, I couldn't do, but he doesn't have the same Paris as Nuar, so I've always felt he's in a lot more dangerous

01:19:29.232 --> 01:19:50.150
[JOHN]: And actually, I think as Dave says, the original black noir was way more of a weapon's expert and emotional artist than I guess what the than do noir is and I think you're right, he would never have necessarily allowed that to happen with the deep.

01:19:50.170 --> 01:19:51.051
[JOHN]: You could see him

01:19:52.332 --> 01:20:00.440
[JOHN]: making that fight in the podcast booth way longer, you know, so I think in that sense, yeah, definitely.

01:20:00.540 --> 01:20:02.522
[JOHN]: But definitely do look at them differently.

01:20:02.662 --> 01:20:02.962
[JOHN]: Yeah.

01:20:03.223 --> 01:20:12.632
[DEREK]: I also don't think, um, oh, no, R&D port of ads any kind of, but that's a way, uh, because everybody could have a friendship with the D, but all really.

01:20:12.892 --> 01:20:14.714
[DEREK]: They're absolutely, you're not my bro, bro.

01:20:17.376 --> 01:20:22.343
[DEREK]: And you also mentioned there David that you think that the show feels a bit rushed and should have gone to 10 or 12 episodes.

01:20:22.904 --> 01:20:25.909
[DEREK]: I don't, I can't imagine this going for 10 or 12 episodes.

01:20:25.949 --> 01:20:28.853
[DEREK]: I'm pretty happy with it going to the end of the season here.

01:20:29.113 --> 01:20:31.777
[DEREK]: And again, the universe isn't ending at the end of the 8th episode.

01:20:31.797 --> 01:20:32.078
[DEREK]: There is...

01:20:32.398 --> 01:20:46.829
[DEREK]: still spin off and yeah, freacals to go so um really the story that the tang needs to finish next episode and I wonder if just some of the reaction to it needing more episodes because the didn't include a lot of the set up for a vault rising uh in the earlier episodes of the season.

01:20:47.630 --> 01:21:09.060
[JOHN]: think it's for me it's not so much that it's been rushed I just think that it is an awful lot that they've crammed into this and I think for me like said earlier about the expectation of having maybe more linkage with the gen V and or even just thinking it would be great see Queen Maeve back because she is still out there in the ether and a lot of the um

01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:15.066
[JOHN]: You know, previously on segments, you know, show a good amount across the different seasons.

01:21:15.106 --> 01:21:18.410
[JOHN]: So there's certainly a lot going on for sure.

01:21:18.990 --> 01:21:29.161
[JOHN]: And so maybe some of the more through line of the storyline seems maybe not to get the same amount possibly as it is.

01:21:29.962 --> 01:21:30.422
[JOHN]: should do.

01:21:30.742 --> 01:21:39.046
[JOHN]: But I think it's I think it's still being like you say as well that really enjoyable and I mean I've loved some of the episodes here.

01:21:39.066 --> 01:21:40.406
[JOHN]: I think it's been really well done.

01:21:40.466 --> 01:21:41.507
[JOHN]: But great stuff.

01:21:41.827 --> 01:21:47.389
[JOHN]: Thanks for the feedback David Mr. Iser and then finally on Facebook Jamie Lawton says

01:21:47.749 --> 01:21:56.094
[JOHN]: This episode did not disappoint so much packed in the hour even managed to get another not-so-so reference to the Winchester's car into the mix.

01:21:56.434 --> 01:22:03.658
[JOHN]: Followed up by the appearance of Daddy Winchester even caught in a piece of Gen V. Absolutely.

01:22:04.919 --> 01:22:06.380
[JOHN]: loads of stuff being squeezed in.

01:22:06.540 --> 01:22:21.285
[DEREK]: You know, if I learned this week about the character of John Winchester, the Daddy from Supernatural that I never knew, originally that role was supposed to be played by Bruce Campbell from Evil Dead, that he was interesting.

01:22:21.365 --> 01:22:33.470
[DEREK]: I appear playing the older version of John Winchester and then JDM would come in and play the younger version in flashbacks effectively, but they ended off just casting JDM to play both roles and he's not

01:22:34.311 --> 01:22:38.496
[DEREK]: Anyway, old enough to be the father of Jensen and Jarrett, as far as I know.

01:22:38.876 --> 01:22:43.001
[DEREK]: No, but I think when he puts a beard on he ages up beautifully.

01:22:43.181 --> 01:22:46.125
[DEREK]: He does he does in that sense.

01:22:46.185 --> 01:22:46.345
[DEREK]: Yeah.

01:22:46.626 --> 01:22:48.147
[DEREK]: Yeah, great stuff.

01:22:48.348 --> 01:22:48.888
[DEREK]: Thanks, Jamie.

01:22:48.908 --> 01:22:49.829
[DEREK]: God you enjoyed yourself.

01:22:49.849 --> 01:22:52.633
[DEREK]: Well, so much packed into these episodes and one more to go.

01:22:52.853 --> 01:22:54.055
[JOHN]: Absolutely thanks Jamie.

01:22:54.315 --> 01:23:04.188
[DEREK]: Yes, I can hear the coals of our podcast in the background telling us to go watch the finale and stop recording Chats about last week's episode, but we have to we missed it because we're off on holidays So we had to talk about it.

01:23:04.709 --> 01:23:05.270
[DEREK]: Absolutely.

01:23:05.370 --> 01:23:08.694
[DEREK]: Yeah, and we have got lots and lots more to talk about because

01:23:09.610 --> 01:23:26.040
[DEREK]: We have another return of a great show that we love, which is Good Omen's, it came back for one final movie-lane episode, and I run a half of our favorite ineffable husbands, Aziraphale and Crowley, which we're really looking forward to talking about, we'll talk about that next week.

01:23:26.780 --> 01:23:28.601
[DEREK]: And we also got the...

01:23:29.822 --> 01:23:57.252
[DEREK]: streamlines the Punisher one last kill which we're yes gonna delay talking about until we have our third podcast host Chris who may have a different perspective on that special then myself a John may have had when we watched this but we do want to talk about it we do want to chat about it could be chat about everything marvel on Disney plus that will be available on the podcast at the next week or two and you can subscribe to the podcast by going over to tvpodcastindustries.com to

01:24:00.238 --> 01:24:20.150
[JOHN]: And finally we'll be back next time indeed we will yes to talk about the boys season five and show finale episode eight blood and bone and of course We will be with the riveting final question of our season five book with fellow quizzes nobody wants to talk about the

01:24:20.410 --> 01:24:23.971
[DEREK]: I've done the only one of that final question for our season-class hookers.

01:24:24.111 --> 01:24:25.972
[JOHN]: Exactly, of course they do.

01:24:26.672 --> 01:24:28.192
[JOHN]: They love a good old quiz.

01:24:28.572 --> 01:24:34.934
[JOHN]: If you have any thoughts about the finale of the boy's season five, please send them into us.

01:24:34.974 --> 01:24:37.775
[JOHN]: We would love to hear your thoughts about

01:24:39.135 --> 01:24:45.918
[JOHN]: episode 8 Blood and Bone, but equally around the season and maybe in a few thoughts around the entire show.

01:24:45.978 --> 01:24:50.300
[DEREK]: Yeah, or the pub quiz apparently, if you want to see it talk to the pub quiz, send those into us.

01:24:50.400 --> 01:24:51.060
[JOHN]: Absolutely.

01:24:52.460 --> 01:24:58.503
[DEREK]: We hope for you will be joined by Chris for that wrap up podcast or for that episode 8 podcast.

01:24:58.523 --> 01:24:59.943
[DEREK]: That should be coming up at the later on.

01:25:00.103 --> 01:25:04.265
[JOHN]: I'm rubbing my rabbit's foot whilst crossing my finger.

01:25:09.707 --> 01:25:20.593
[DEREK]: Come on, Chris, he's gonna do it, you can do it, and do it, Chris, but thanks so much for joining us with this episode, our penultimate episode of The Boys, and we'll be back next time with the finale, and we will talk to you soon.

01:25:21.093 --> 01:25:32.039
[JOHN]: Yes, thank you so much fellow boys and girls for joining us, until next time, keep watching, keep listening, stay out of the water, bye, bye.

01:26:00.983 --> 01:26:09.908
[DEREK]: Well, you, I think what we've talked about a lot this season is bullies is Billy as an A-hole behind it all.

01:26:09.968 --> 01:26:12.469
[JOHN]: (imitating the Bullseye TV show) IN ONE!!!