Deadpool and Wolverine Movie Review

[00:00:00] This is Movies on TV Podcast Industries and we're back with our spoiler-filled discussion of Deadpool and Wolverine I'm about to lose everything that I've ever cared about and I have no idea how to save it, but you do

[00:00:14] Trust me kid. I know here. This Wolverine let down as entire world. Well my entire world needs you Shake on it. Stop! Just got the tip with your little state knife Snick, schnick Fellow defenders welcome back to Movies on TV Podcast Industries where we're chatting all about

[00:00:44] Deadpool and Wolverine the new movie from the guys that bring you the MCU Marvel Studios I am one of your hosts Chris. Hello there fellow defenders. I am one of your other hosts John

[00:00:58] I've just been listening to a mega box set of N. Yeah, guess what I've been doing Now I'm your other host Derek welcome back everybody Yes, welcome back to Movies on TV Podcast Industries. We are

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[00:05:17] For all the shows and movies that we cover exactly with that I think let us get into our spoiler-filled discussion of the Marvel movie Deadpool and Wolverine Derek what are some of the movie details who gave us what we're when how and why I?

[00:05:36] Guess that includes Kevin Feige It does include Kevin Feige and interestingly a lot of people don't know that Feige was actually Involved in the movies way before the MCU was set up way before the first Marvel Studios film Iron Man was set up

[00:05:49] He was involved in all of these movies who is a he was a consultant all the way back So he's he is involved in the Fox universe of movies as well

[00:05:56] Even though it's not something that was connected to him and he wasn't responsible for them like like he is now But he's always been involved in these so yeah, Kevin Feige production bringing the Fox universe of characters into the MCU really

[00:06:10] But on top of that the director for this movie is Sean levy he directed Ryan Reynolds in free guy and the Adam project Which were both recently released in the last couple years and he also directed Hugh Jackman in real steel John Wow

[00:06:25] So he's directed both them in previous projects But it seems like he is Ryan Reynolds partner in crime in terms in terms of directing This is this is the third director on the Deadpool movies

[00:06:34] Hasn't directed one of them before so after working with him on free guy and the Adam project He came over with him to this Marvel movie Excellent stuff. Yeah, the 35th. I think MCU movie actually Yeah, well, it's only very connected in this time around for Deadpool

[00:06:50] Hmm the first Deadpool movie in the Marvel universe after the Fox movies, I guess after they purchased Fox So yeah, yeah, and this movie was written by Rhett Reese who wrote Deadpool 1 & 2 along with Paul Wernick

[00:07:02] Who wrote Deadpool 1 & 2? Ryan Reynolds, of course involved in Deadpool 1 & 2 and the writer of both of those Director Sean Levi also has a writing credit for the movie as well and Zeb Wells is on board as a writer here as well

[00:07:14] He wrote the other fourth wall breaking character She-Hulk attorney at Law He wrote episode 7 which you'll remember is the one where they go to Emil Blonski's retreats A really fun episode of She-Hulk as well. And also he wrote on robot chicken for many many years

[00:07:28] Yeah, great stuff. I haven't seen robot chicken in ages The last one was probably one of their Star Wars parody ones. Yeah, well, I know it's a bit sporadic now It's not like a regular series. Exactly. It used to be but yeah, okay, excellent stuff There you go

[00:07:44] And so Zeb Wells joining the writing team for this one But that makes sense You'd have somebody that works in the Marvel universe Because all these previous movies had been just in the Fox universe not connecting into story lines of things that were going on

[00:07:55] The MCU so bring on somebody that's written for some of the tv shows or some of the mc movies Makes total sense. Yep, definitely. Well, john Do you want to tell us what they gave us with your synopsis for Deadpool and Wolverine? Little knight

[00:08:10] As scout master Kevin once said across from the campfire Wade Wilson the merc with a mouth finds his world turned upside down when the time variance authority the tv A reveals his timeline is collapsing due to the death of Logan aka Wolverine who is essential to its stability

[00:08:32] tasked with finding a replacement wolverine Wade embarks on a multiverse adventure filled with chaos and unexpected alliances After encountering various Logan variants and facing off against the powerful Cassandra nova Wade and a reluctant Logan team up with a resistance group led by Electra

[00:08:51] Natus to confront nova and her army of Deadpool variants A high stakes battle ensues with Wade and Logan making the ultimate sacrifice to destroy the time ripper and save the multiverse In a surprising twist

[00:09:07] Logan chooses to retire rather than disrupt the timeline while Wade reunites with his ex-girlfriend Vanessa The film concludes with a humorous post credit scene featuring johnny storm adding a final comedic touch To the action packed adventure. Yes scout master Kevin. You remember him

[00:09:27] I wasn't sure what you were referencing there john from the movie the innuendo Oh, well, of course. Yes of a dodgy scout master Yep, there's lots in this instance called Kevin. But purely hypothetical. Of course, of course

[00:09:39] There's lots and lots of innuendo in this movie, of course and lots of straight-o innuendo, I guess as well Definitely. Yeah, I think from sort of rubbing the bone so to speak In that lovely opening sequence, which I think is our point one

[00:09:59] Which I think we'll get into our top five points for this Deadpool movie Point one digging up the rotting corpse of Wolfie. Yes. Yes. This is the bye-bye by dance. Yes, it is absolutely

[00:10:18] Um, there's a lot of people who are a little bit concerned that after wolverine had finished off on a movie that effectively If it didn't win an Oscar, I don't think it did But it was the one comic book movie that was going to be nominated for Oscars

[00:10:32] Um of all of the X-Men series of all of the fox characters I know that in the MCU we've had Black Panther, which is nominated for Oscar, but This was the one the Logan was the movie that Set up the character really well was really emotional really

[00:10:47] Emotionals tale of wolverine And x-23 and a lot of people were really concerned that him coming back for this would ruin That story so they start off right here with Deadpool going to dig up the corpse of wolverine

[00:11:01] And in commentary over the top of it. We're Wilson kind of going look he's got regeneration powers I know this artworks. He's not going to be rotting in the grave. He's going to be alive and then we see the rotted corpse of Wolverine. We see the adam adamantium

[00:11:16] Skeleton basically and uh, we'll wilson pubertying it away Oh, I guess he is dead, isn't he? Yeah, it is so funny I mean, it's interesting because when the tva do turn up and he says how many bonuses

[00:11:30] Is there in a human body? And I was like, why what's that got to do? And then I was like, oh no because it's got the adamantium Bone structure effects of wolverine

[00:11:40] So it's like that each of the bones is a weapon which he then uses to really great effect And indeed as I say he uh does sort of Old handle the bone in a rather suggestive Moment, so I just really

[00:11:56] It's more than rather suggestive. It is actually exactly he's stroking the bone literally. Yeah. Yeah very much so Like it's a really funny sequence and using ensync as the background while he's doing the buy-buy dance

[00:12:10] As he's killing lots of tva agents using the adamantium adamantium bones of wolverine It was a really good opening But I do like that there was a bit of respect paid to logan I knew I knew this was going to be a comedy movie

[00:12:22] Obviously it wasn't going to be that dan and dirty serious movie like logan was So how do you do that? You open up with your main character going? We're not going to

[00:12:32] Peel over your memories of of logan. We're going to pay a little bit of respect to it But uh have the rotting corpse of wolverine Puppeted by uh puppeted by wade was very funny and this opening sequence

[00:12:45] But this is all leading up to the story of what's happened to wade wilson since uh since deadpool 2 We find out in the in some flashbacks after this scene That he was going to join he wanted to join the avengers directly after

[00:13:00] Deadpool 2 so that was back in 2018 when when deadpool 2 came out around the time of um The blip I guess was around that around that's kind of 2018 or at least before the blip so it was before the adventures became the big world saving

[00:13:16] Universe saving uh team when they took on than us. So it's around that time. Yeah around the time of first Absolutely, and I mean, you know for me, I don't think this changes logan whatsoever I absolutely love logan for me. It is probably my favorite x-men

[00:13:33] Movie that ever came out. Um, I love Just the intimacy office and kind of watching it there recently You know the fact that they are in a wood You know a pine forest where he does die and sacrifices himself for those mutant kids

[00:13:52] And it's like, you know, there's there's a respect in that really picking up halfway because I mean If for no other reason then You would probably want to dig his skeleton up in order to scavenge the adamantium well

[00:14:07] Yes, you know, I just like the fact that his teeth were still in so it was kind of like this this Skeleton But with a proper full set of Nashes but not like skeleton nashes. It looked like they were still they still had a good old polish and

[00:14:25] You know went to the dentist every six months. They kind of looked a bit too perfect But I I kind of that was just the thing I mean it was even the fact that it felt

[00:14:35] Or the design of the skeleton looked like there was a little bit of wispy hair still on But more than just wispy It it felt like it was that kind of slightly spiky short cropped hair Still still fulfilling kind of the wolverine shape

[00:14:51] Exactly, exactly. So it was it was really good And I actually love the fact that this movie touched on one of my favorite x-men movies, which is Logan And even to the point of having x-23 back as well, which I know will come too later

[00:15:05] Absolutely, but you know really really good. Yeah, yeah, absolutely But Wade himself is on the rocks as well. He kind of lost everything Vanessa's left him because after the big adventure that happened in Deadpool 2 She's not seeing it. He has no drive anymore for doing anything else

[00:15:22] So he's trying to get into the Avengers to give himself that drive back and maybe keep Vanessa around. He doesn't he becomes a car salesman with uh, Peter who he'd saved at the end of Deadpool 2

[00:15:33] I'd say it's not worked out the way he thought. I mean even that You know, he's got his birthday coming up. It's running through the motions here even Vanessa's there Um, but she's seeing someone else, you know, yeah, and it's all a bit bittersweet really

[00:15:50] It's all fairly, you know, at least for Wade Wilson. It's mundane It's there's no excitement the Avengers thing hasn't happened. Yep. It's the usual grouping of people So for him it's like time has gone by and nothing's really happened. Exactly. Exactly

[00:16:06] There is a good gag there with John Favreau reprising his role as happy Hogan meeting with Deadpool because well Tony Stark's not gonna come down and meet And meet people like you for interview, which is basically Robert Downey Jr

[00:16:18] Won't do a cameo in your movie. This is what's what's being said there Although he might now as we just heard of a comic on he's uh, he's back in the MCU

[00:16:26] Um for multiple multiple millions of dollars. Yeah 80 million is the the estimated cost to get him back into the mcu I'd love to see his dr. Doom dr. Doom is one of my favorite characters

[00:16:38] So it'll be really interesting to see what he does. It will be yes. Yes But you did think you might see Robert Downey Jr popping in for a little gag here There's loads of photographs around happy Hogan's room of Tony Stark of pepper pots as well

[00:16:53] So establishing this is the discussion to be part of the MCU. So, uh, so but it's a good gag It's a good gag anyway Um, you mentioned them already John, but let's go on to point number two how the how the story progresses really our point number two

[00:17:11] The tva hires Deadpool. So the time variance authority are back from Loki Season one two, I'm really pleased about this because like I really enjoyed Loki. Um both seasons and I think um, You know

[00:17:25] How'd you get the tva in here? And I think having Wade Wilson taking the piss out of this bureaucratic Monster of an organization in the tva is almost like a shot of adrenaline in the arm for the tva

[00:17:39] And I really enjoyed the kind of that juxtaposition of you know, the pen pushes Being sort of forced to deal with you know, the merc with the mouth and I have to say here Um with you know the introduction of mr. Paradox as well with Matthew McFadden. Yes

[00:17:59] Yes from succession from succession, but just so so good I loved the fact that you know the man in the suit There are a few moments where I just thought, you know, he was going to get sort of

[00:18:11] Blown away by the gun of Wade Wilson or even you know, sort of a bit later on that Both him and wolverine were going to take out mr. Paradox now I don't know anything about the character really. Um But I like the fact that

[00:18:28] He was always there. Um and actually was standing up to them in a way was kind of going about his own plan With the time ripper. Yes, and and I've kind of enjoyed Matthew McFadden because I mean he's been on British tv a bit later

[00:18:44] I think he's Australian actually, but he seems to do you know, British accent British sort of You know cop upper class whatever it might be really really well. I think he was in some kind of period piece and but

[00:18:59] I just really like his sensibility. Yes, certainly as a man in a suit and you could sense him channeling and the you know The succession element in what he did, but it was it was just more hyped up

[00:19:15] It was overregged but in a really good way and I exactly I thought it really played into You know a Deadpool movie really well. Yeah. Yeah, I really enjoyed seeing Matthew here. He's so he's so good on succession

[00:19:29] He's one of those standout characters. You just wonder what the heck he's gonna say Every time he opens his mouth. He's always an interesting character to watch So yeah, so really glad to see him here and he's the one that's kind of pushing forward the the plot

[00:19:41] And bringing them on board so effectively they come to take out Wade Wilson to take him Into the tv a take him out of his timeline because the timeline is about to be wiped Due to the loss of Logan from

[00:19:54] The timeline because Wolverine sacrificed himself or died their timeline is going to be wiped out. Yeah It was the central character to that universe. That's it. They almost bring in a new concept. So it's not a keystone species, but it's almost like

[00:20:09] Wolverine in that timeline is the keystone Personality superhero of that timeline with him dead. There's no point keeping it Going so they're going to prune it. They're gonna wipe it but Mr paradox Kind of just wants to do it in a more efficient way with this time ripper

[00:20:32] What can do it across multiple timelines that need to be done rather than this Slow process again. It's the bureaucratic thing of oh, we must increase efficiency It's all of that kind of thing Paradox is looking for a promotion basically

[00:20:47] So he's gonna wipe the timeline in 72 hours instead of a year That's kind of the way he says it But the meta-cobbetry here the joke here, of course is that the fox universe has been bought by

[00:20:57] Disney and they they bought the rights back effectively and you'll probably have noticed You know, we've covered a couple of shows that were on fx in the last year like shogun for example When something stands on its own and is able to make the money

[00:21:10] They'll continue to produce it through that channel What they're saying here is logan is the epitome of x-men movies of that x franchise of movies You'll never be able to do anything better with it. So we're just gonna

[00:21:20] Absorb that whole universe into the MCU now, right? That's the kind of meta Idea that they've come up here for the story. We're pruning the fox timeline But taking the characters and this is what they're doing with by taking wade wilson exactly exactly

[00:21:36] But in the story in the the movie itself Just want to quickly call out the actual taking from the tv a taking Wade wilson from his party where he's surrounded by all of his friends

[00:21:48] He takes that little polaroid picture with all of his friends there and he gets taken out of that universe Just want to jump into it just for fans of Of welcome to rexham And his partner in crime there rob macklehenny

[00:22:01] Who works on that reality show the two of them bought a football team in the uk Together but they even on that show they reference the rob macklehenny will be in the movie here now He is credited as tv a agent

[00:22:12] We think it's the guy in the background when they all Are talking to wade and he's telling them all that basically he's gonna have sex with them all that he thinks they're there dressed up

[00:22:20] As a party favor. Yeah, and he he mentions one specifically who has goggles on exactly and says the goggles hide the face And so we're assuming that that is rob macklehenny

[00:22:32] Yeah, especially because his joke to him is while we're having sex. We're gonna be making eye contact the whole time And so I think he's trying to make rob macklehenny break up laughing and that's he definitely and but

[00:22:44] Because of this recruitment. It's not really what wade wilson is thinking of because By pruning that timeline it means all the people that he does care about including venessa Are going to perish as well exactly and they aren't being saved by the tv a

[00:23:02] So he has to go he kind of rebels against the the offer here and Needs to travel then into the multiverse in order to find another Wolverine that can inhabit the timeline and maintain that timeline exactly exactly so much replace logon. So we get

[00:23:25] Tons and tons of wolverine variants across the timeline. There's some great ones in here As well, I think my favorite definitely is the comic-accuracy wolverine who's who's huge ackman only five foot two

[00:23:38] Which is very good. I do like the touch with all the wolveys there that one of them is the henry cavill Wolverine as well So a nice little nod to henry cavill just being an awesome sort of generally Good dude And and the fact that he's been

[00:23:55] I guess Banjaxed by dc in the same way that ryan reynolds had kind of made fun of the green lantern in the previous movie And so I like that Cavill Is up for this really and doesn't ryan reynolds say i'll come with us

[00:24:11] They'll treat you so much nicer over there than they did over in your last place. Yeah, so that's a little poking Thought of that as well. Yeah, so I really enjoyed that

[00:24:20] But all them effectively attack deadpool the minute they see them until he finally finds one that's drunken off to To fall asleep before he attacks Deadpool and then brings him back with him to the tba

[00:24:32] Yeah, and he learns what he brings that wolverine back that this is the worst wolverine of all timelines This is someone that let all of his friends die or wasn't there to save all of his friends

[00:24:41] So he has to he has to drag him around with them and because of that Mr. Paradox goes well, you effectively didn't accomplish the goal that we'd set for you It didn't it didn't do what we wanted you to do so prunes them both

[00:24:53] From the universe and they're sent off to the void and then I enjoyed going to the void as well Yeah, it was really fun going to the void. Wasn't it? I think we should move on to our point number three

[00:25:07] Point number three the fox universe in the void And I think just because we'd probably seen furiosa recently I absolutely loved the skit on mad max in the void With its dystopian feel at least within the deadpool movies

[00:25:27] Looking very much like it's in a desert. It's so crazy, isn't that like, you know When this movie was being made of course Furiosa was being made the sequel to to mad max fury road or the prequel to mad max fury road The musta thought

[00:25:40] Well, there's no way that's going to be the big summer movie That's you know follow up from fury road, which was a massive underground success It made way more money than anybody expected So must have thought furiosa is gonna blow the box off as wide open

[00:25:53] Everybody's gonna know this reference by the time we get there when they were making the movie and then That was in the cinema for about two and a half weeks and just didn't Do very well and it's a really good movie

[00:26:03] It's absolutely if you enjoyed fury road go see furiosa But they are definitely referencing because they probably thought this was going to be the other big movie of the summer So um, so I wonder I wonder how that's landed with anybody that didn't see that movie

[00:26:17] I mean, I think just generally them referencing mad max though as well You know, it's it's more general and everyone knows mad max. So like I just I love that I just immediately the sense of humor from that was superb I love then

[00:26:33] And the fact that there's always the danger of alioth being in here and we do see laser on And I know there so yeah, that's the big black smoke Monster with the red eyes kind of purpley smoke month black dark purple. I guess Exactly or whatever

[00:26:54] We saw in Loki and again, you know, they're kind of they kind of call this stuff out because you're never sure Who in your audience is gonna have seen all of the things you're referencing? So they do call out

[00:27:03] Uh quite specifically to camera. This is Loki episode five from season one. Do you remember? So So Ryan Reynolds doesn't even trust the audience to catch that

[00:27:13] That one he's gonna specifically tell you where to go and look for it as well. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean there's so many good um Things that go on in the void. I mean this film is absolutely Balls deep in cameos so much

[00:27:29] But I love the twist around the cameo of everyone at least in our screening going Oh my goodness is cap america here, you know, chris happens his back. He's been saying for years

[00:27:40] He's never gonna play captain america again. Here he is right there. Here he is and then it's like It's the human torch. Yeah like flame on and like that is fantastic. Absolutely little twist here and The fact that he doesn't survive And effectively them, you know the main

[00:28:00] Bad guy here kassandra nova whose xavius twin And uh who deadpool is kind of saying, you know, oh well The human torch here has been sort of badmouthing you all the way through as as you know after we've been captured and being brought here

[00:28:18] And it's going through all the insults that the human torch has has said about kassandra nova and then she just Kind of thinks something and you see all his skin drop off I don't know the big the big eyes

[00:28:31] And he's kind of yeah, it's still a lot like kind of just move on his mouth And then he crumples to the ground. Yeah And you have I love the fact that this plays into the post credit scene as well because you have

[00:28:44] Human torch really saying no, I didn't say any of this. This is all just Deadpool the merc with the mouth just Mouthing off in order to buy some time distract

[00:28:55] sort of come up with a plan while he's you know got them otherwise engaged with the fact that he's just You know, it's verbal diarrhea here and you kind of believe that and I love the fact that it goes back

[00:29:10] And to when they're in kind of the globe like sort of mad max prison Yeah being transported to kassandra's main base And you hear the human torch badmouthing kassandra in exactly the way The deadpool recounts and so I love that. Yeah, it's fantastic

[00:29:31] Again, it shows you the other side of chris Evans were so used to seeing chris Evans as captain america for so long but you know in movies like um scott pilgrim versus the world he has a very different character in Uh

[00:29:44] Fantastic for his appearance as human torch. He is a very different character than captain america So um giving him the opportunity to have this it's almost a one take Speech that he has to get through and you can see there's a cheekiness in chris Evans

[00:29:57] When he's delivering that where he's going nobody's gonna believe this is coming out of my mouth You know, it's a great moment as that as the post credit scene Um, but there are so many other cameos and characters. Um, let's talk about the main resistance group

[00:30:10] That are here because these are all surprises to me There have been so many rumors about how many actors and how many people were going to be appearing in the movie

[00:30:18] Um, but it does contain itself to being a movie about the fox universe and saying goodbye to that Universal character And in that sense, it's a really nice kind of almost love letter to those movies

[00:30:31] So I mean we have electro natios from the worst from literally the worst Movie, um, it's a shame. They didn't have daredevil or the punisher or ghost riser Like I think that would have been awesome

[00:30:45] I know they are only ever going to be able to get so many And it all depends on schedules and just the willingness. Oh, you're totally right It would have been great to have all of them in there

[00:30:56] But they do get a great joke in about why about daredevil not being there That he was part of the resistance but was killed by kazan over in the past

[00:31:03] And electro kind of going well, no real no real loss there because of course jennifer garner famously was married to ben afleck at one point So having the two of them on screen together is probably not gonna happen Well, that's true a great little gag there as well

[00:31:16] But uh, but you're right, you know, I'd love to have seen ghost writer in there ghost writer is well back in marvel Now he appeared in uh in agents of shield as a character before as well But and we already have lots of other punisher out there

[00:31:27] But again punisher also gets a mention uh in there too Yeah, no, absolutely. They all get a mention. You know, you've got blade there as well Of course, actually snipes which are really great to to see saying his famous line. Yeah Nobody ever ice skates uphill

[00:31:44] Always trying to ice skit uphill. Sorry. Yeah. Um for me as well. I just felt it was so good Um the x-23 was back with daphne keen. I thought, you know again She played X-23 so well in logan so young as well

[00:32:01] I loved her being in the middle of Logan and xavia and with you know, Hugh jackman and patrick stewart's, you know And and to me as well, you know, it's kind of that that heart of this movie. Yes It's there with deadpool in spades

[00:32:16] But there's another section here and like you're saying about so the integrity of logan being carried through In this movie and and she I love the fact that that real serious kind of introspection of Wolverine

[00:32:33] At the campfire wondering what the hell he's doing given that he's technically the worst wolverine in the world and those Those real meaningful moments for wolverine are between him and x-23 I thought it was so so good

[00:32:49] And I loved their relationship in logan and I do get I just felt the sense of that carrying over in this movie as well And I thought it was a real standout for the scenes that they were in together

[00:33:01] Definitely in this movie and I really really enjoyed it. Definitely. You know, that's the importance of bringing back daphne keen She's there as x-23 to save wolverine who saved her in their adventure together before she got prudent I guess and put into the void. Um, but

[00:33:17] It's really important. I think it works really really well. She's I'd almost say She's the real character of everybody else that's there I think this lovely touches with the fox character fox characters being brought in there the idea that

[00:33:30] The reason why electron blade are fighting as the resistance against kassan over is to give them a real ending Which they never really got within the fox universe Interesting little a little side note that ryan reynolds, of course appeared in blade 3

[00:33:46] Taking on a lot of the acting duties when apparently Wesley snipes wasn't coming out of his trailer many days So there is a little gag in the background there where blade tells deadpool. He always hated him And ryan kind of says yeah me too

[00:33:59] So there is a little joke between the two of them having lots attention on the set of blade three In the earlier days Absolutely There is one other big member of the resistance that I absolutely loved which is

[00:34:11] Finally on screen that we have gambas being played by chaleng tatum A version of gambit never realized but it was Definitely in the papers or in the in the trade press for about six years that he was attached to the gambit movie

[00:34:30] And what they do with him in here is hilarious even says at one point. I think I was born here Because his movie was never released. Nobody knows who he is

[00:34:39] But the whole joke of it is that he was there everybody thought he was eventually going to make this movie And they even give him that that terrible accent from His version of a cajun accent Is hilarious what's the what's the joke from from deadpool where he says

[00:34:56] Who's your um, who's your accent coach, you know yours the minions? Yeah, you sound like a minion because like There's moments where you just can't understand a word that he's saying chaleng tatum is such a great comedic actor

[00:35:09] Go watch 21 jump streaks and 22 jump streaks. He's hilarious in both of those movies But he really brings it here Um knowing that this could have been a real movie back in the late 90s early 2000s

[00:35:21] It's kind of been a real movie with him playing gambit and here he is wearing the full costume Doing the awesome exploding pirate powers Which are terrible powers, but they do use it to great effect. I think in the big battle sequence

[00:35:34] We see a lecture we see blade. We see x-23. We see gambit all fighting side by side Will be an it's great. It's a great little scene. Yeah that where they're all fighting in order to sort of buy time

[00:35:49] So they can try and defeat kassandra. Yeah, but I think they even Show how cool the exploding cards of gambit can be he attaches ones to the back of four people that are random

[00:36:01] And then it explodes them all at the same time. It's cool. Looks like something from the intro of x-men 97 Very cool stuff very cool, but that's the resistance fighters that are there. Yeah, absolutely There's a ton of villains as well

[00:36:14] And like loads. I mean in effect that they're all quite Other than kassandra. Most of them are real cameos. They're kind of just there in for a few scenes There's pyro and toad Sabotooth is the one I recognize coming back from one of the earlier

[00:36:33] Wolverine movies played by tyler main The first one of the first ones from one of the first x-men movies toad was in the first x-men movie pyro was in the first or second I like that juggernaut

[00:36:44] Looks like he's slimmed down compared to all the other movies even the blasted pool movie Yeah, and it's like he's gone on a keto diet or something but retained his helmet which is very important for their plan to escape the void That kassandra is keeping

[00:37:07] Keeping them here because When they put that on her that it will dampen her powers So that they can escape The voyage and it's like magnetos helmet, isn't it? Yeah, but he's already dead apparently according to according to the

[00:37:23] What they say and can we talk quickly about kassandra nova though? by amacorn Who we remember when they were on? Pennyworth first season and then went on to to work on the crane after that a very well respected actor has won lots and lots of awards

[00:37:40] And here they are playing kassandra nova Xavier's twin So we haven't heard about kassandra nova in any of the movie universes before but yes, this is a comic book character kassandra nova is this twin that effectively

[00:37:53] Xavier killed in the womb before she was born and then she transferred her consciousness out of the womb She's that powerful but has very much the same power set as Xavier if you're not going to bring patrick stewart back Well, you bring his female twin back, right?

[00:38:07] Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I think she was really good in this she was superb and there's one specific thing I absolutely love about her that they did for this Which is her messing people's minds by putting her finger through their faces or fingers through their faces

[00:38:24] Or behind their faces. Oh, it's such a cool Effect it was superb. Isn't there even there's even the joke from pyro there going? Will you just ask me? I don't want your fingers inside my head. You know, it was

[00:38:37] Great joke for not it looked phenomenal. It looked like I don't know. I kind of wanted to scratch my brain I felt like I could feel what was happening this idea that she was sort of furtling around inside someone's head and

[00:38:55] It was just the way, you know with the hand in the eye, you know and moving around how the eyes bumped up or the nose or whatever I thought it was done to really really good effect And I absolutely loved it when she applied it to mr. Paradox

[00:39:13] And I don't I think you know Matthew McFadden's head massage The acting here given it was CGI It I don't know it's like the eyes his face reacted wherever Cassandra's hands went and it looked phenomenal even though that was purely imaginary

[00:39:35] Yeah, and it was you know in terms of this is going to be how it will look and CGI'd and then Bosch I think Matthew McFadden also just has the face for it. Maybe yeah, maybe that's what I just thought it was

[00:39:50] Really phenomenally good. I loved it. I love that whole sequence and just then where she's dragging him He's kind of like he's kind of gone like a rag doll. Yeah, he's dragged down to the time ripper machine Yeah, there's a really really cool effect

[00:40:05] I guess this is what happens when you go from doing three Marvel movies a year and three series to One Marvel movie echo that came out as a series this year

[00:40:15] Agatha Longwood's coming out later this year and the marvels last year you have your CGI studios the studios that do all the special effects were able to actually work And Accomplish all of the all the jobs that were here

[00:40:29] By not being overworked with eight different projects in one year. Yeah, absolutely So I guess that that's why the special effects to me. Anyway, they definitely stood up to the movie Absolutely

[00:40:39] There was also a little notion of a variant Dr. Strange being trapped in the void as well with the sling ring Yes, they actually Wolverine and Deadpool Use in order to escape the void and from the oncoming alias who is approaching

[00:41:00] Cassandra's kind of base. Yes. Yeah, she does give them their way out doesn't she she She because of the relationship her brother had had Wolverine She gives them an opportunity to escape And sends them back to their own universe

[00:41:13] And her plan though is that she's going to steal the universe ripper from the tva and wipe out everything but the void where she is Effectively the leader of the void. She's the one that set herself up as queen of the void

[00:41:24] Let's say and again, I like the kind of meta idea. Why do we have to keep the MCU? Why can't we keep the fox universe? You know, why why does why does their universe get to destroy ours?

[00:41:33] Why can't we take that there's actually you know, and I think again, we hear Wade Wilson commenting on the less than successful last couple of movies from the MCU Can we just call this a call an end to it and just move on with other movies?

[00:41:48] And so I think that's also Cassandra's plan if she gets her way We'll never see the end of phase five. We'll have to just move on with other movies Hopefully featuring those characters would be her plan effectively

[00:41:59] But she lets them all let's them go back to their own universe using the sling ring But you're right. Yeah, there's there must be a very dr. Strange that that must have appeared there at some point Yeah, she does say yeah excellent stuff

[00:42:11] Let us get on to our fourth point I think let us get on to point four all of the dead pools back In the world of the TVA so we have now this this race to get to the time ripper to

[00:42:32] Either destroy it or to use it in order to wipe everything but the voice. Yes So they're in this race against Cassandra And but all the dead pools are thrown at them. Yes, they're working for Cassandra the Deadpool core

[00:42:48] Effectively we did meet two of them already that we didn't mention let's mention them here because they're two of my favorites Without a doubt nice pool Who's effectively Ryan Reynolds at his most Canadian? You can hear you can hear him just being really super polite all the time

[00:43:03] Even gives gives Deadpool his car when they meet each other in the void. Um, and basically Deadpool wants to steal his dog, which is the other coolest Deadpool dog pool job. What do you think a dog pool? Um I was there kind of going

[00:43:22] Oh my goodness the meth really hit scooby-doo hard. Um on this and then I was like It's actually questioning The reality of it all I was like is that CGI or is that a real dog? And and then I was like

[00:43:38] That's kind of flip flopping between the two of them. Oh, no, it's a real dog. Oh my goodness It looks like that the tongue is like that or then I was like, oh are they CGIing just the tongue?

[00:43:49] So it's just like sort of exaggerated and then the whole Tonguing between the dog And uh Deadpool I was like, oh my god as he's talking and then the dog is licking his tongue while he's talking

[00:44:05] And then Ryan Reynolds licks the dog's tongue back. It's just is this real? This is actually happening I was just like but I mean fur juice obviously You know Ryan Reynolds does like a good old french kiss from a pooch So I guess like it

[00:44:22] He kind of liked it. Um either that or he got oral thrush Maybe or something to something really sort of scummy, but like it was just what is going on here I'm just like each time it was like

[00:44:38] It was just the tongue in I was like, oh my god. In fact when he had the Deadpool mask on I was like going Oh, thank god for that because like at least it's just licking the top of it

[00:44:51] And but fur juice, you know that is dedication to the the crash It certainly is it certainly is and I was right John that we came out of the cinema after watching after watching the movie

[00:45:02] And I was asking I wonder where they found the dog the dog had won I think it's the uk contest for britain's ugliest dogs So I think that it was the winner of the previous year or the winner when they were casting And it got through the year

[00:45:16] Um, so it just looked unreal but fair juice to the it's gone It's gone to all of the um all of the red carpets or probably and more money in that movie than I will ever earn in my entire lifetime

[00:45:27] So fair, you know and rightly so it's a very very cute and very very weird dog You know the the other kind of thing they always say about Deadpool is that he pushes a joke so far that eventually it comes back from not being funny

[00:45:38] Well, that's effectively what dog pulls like he's gone past the point of being an ugly pooch to actually being cute again By the end of the movie. Um, but yes, let's talk about all the rest of the Deadpool

[00:45:48] It's not going to go through them all there are apparently 100 different variants of Deadpool's um that are coming To take down Wade and uh and Logan when they're when they've arrived back. Um We have the standoff between them. We have wolverine and Deadpool on one side

[00:46:05] Nice pool is coming towards uh Deadpool and then the rest of this gang of 100 other variants are coming towards them And Deadpool grabs nice pool and uses him as a human shield between all the Deadpool's coming on it is hilarious how

[00:46:23] Badly killed nice pool gets by all the rest of the Deadpool in the end as well as head Bench the edge blown off. Yes, so I mean that was really funny. I mean it kind of looked like you know

[00:46:36] Almost toss an esk in terms of with the locks as well. Oh with his amazing hair. Yeah. Yeah I expected him to be swinging through the trees of a jungle to be honest. Yes, um, but yeah, no, it was really good

[00:46:50] I loved um him using nice pool as a shield I love the whole sequence of both him and wolvey sort of the slow motion montage of all the Deadpool killing

[00:47:03] And only for them to come to the end of it, you know, like triumphant and then they all get back up again Because they've they've regenerated yet seemingly nice pool isn't able to regenerate

[00:47:15] The only one there that can't regenerate. So I like that. Did you see the regeneration? They went back to the Deadpool 2 joke where some of them had really small arms, baby arms

[00:47:24] I couldn't I could the last one. I thought that was a great touch. It was a really good touch Yeah, and in amongst all of those Deadpool's at least the one for me

[00:47:32] I thought was really good was the Welsh pool or Welsh Deadpool played by poor Mullins from rexham And obviously Ryan Reynolds along with Rob McElhaney Owning that club. Yeah, and of course with the associated documentary On that so that was really good to see Super Paul Mullins

[00:47:52] Well not seeing but know that Super Paul Mullins was the Welsh Deadpool Yes Was in the in the costume and Ryan Reynolds Wife like lively is plays lady Deadpool very good

[00:48:05] Very cool. I know the couple ones that I didn't notice at the time but head pool the one that's floating around All the way through that's Nathan Fillion Excellent. Yes, because he is used as a weapon by Deadpool at one point

[00:48:17] It was really like and then yes the cowboy Deadpool is Matthew McConaughey Of course, of course it is like that's that's what you do when you're an actor like Ryan Reynolds to call up all your friends and go just record a line here for me

[00:48:31] We're gonna put you in the Deadpool movie. You get a credit couple of quid Senture away as well. Yeah, remember Brad Pitt was in the last one. Yeah, you know for a millisecond

[00:48:40] So so yeah, love it. Love it. But this massive battle is I thought it was really well done I loved having all this something that you're kind of waiting for the whole time when the resistance

[00:48:50] Group that are in the void are telling them you don't want to run into the Deadpool core and you go Oh, I want to see the Deadpool core I want to see them arrive and they really Paid so much attention to each other's loads of other versions

[00:49:01] I'm not we're never going to be able to get around to call them all out But there's loads of other versions of that pool that you see in the comics that you see in other versions

[00:49:08] And I've seen in the past so quite cool to have them all on screen here And the entire resolution to this is that Peter pool arrives Yeah, absolutely. He has squeezed Into that outfit Wow And packing his packed lunch Quite substantially Yes, yes

[00:49:31] But Peter is the one friend of Deadpool across all multiverse across all variants that every one of them respect and like Because he's so absolutely normal It's simply it him being a car salesman at the beginning of the movie with Wade Wilson just makes sense

[00:49:49] That's the kind of character. He would be a car salesman Yeah, absolutely He'd be doing any type of normal job But they all love him and all respect him so they stop fighting amongst each other And stop trying to kill Wade and uh and Logan, right? Yeah, exactly

[00:50:03] But shall we move on from Peter pool and his Crotch-hugging outfit as well as all the other Deadpool's onto our fifth and final point Our fifth and final point

[00:50:23] Which is also the raffle. Well, yes. Yes our final point about the movie how it all finishes off and wraps up So we already mentioned Cassandra Nova is back

[00:50:32] In their universe trying to get her hands on mr. Paradox's time ripper and we have that excellent scene with uh with her Pulling mr. Paradox along the ground behind her. She goes into this The kind of finger face massage but really deep

[00:50:47] Exactly, exactly and wolverine and Deadpool have to team up to stop the Machine from working the two of them have to work together Yeah, so the machine's kind of pulling from two sources of power. I love how as she's kind of

[00:51:03] Activating it. I like how you're getting that kind of string sort of spaghettification Yes of the world like you saw in Season two of Loki. Yeah, really good kind of aesthetic for me

[00:51:16] In fact, I don't even think with the budget of a movie that they do it as well As they did in the tv show to be honest Yeah, but it there's a nice little you know just a little pointer to that and You have

[00:51:31] Deadpool and Logan having to go down into the bowels of Where these streams of energy are? But being warned by mr. Paradox that Any one person doing that they're gonna die. Yes, but of course both of them hold hands Bro force it out

[00:51:51] With yeah, yeah as they sort of team up as they allow the energy Streams to kind of pass through them and so disrupt the flow to the time Ripper Causing it to effectively fail In the plan that Cassandra has like I really like this

[00:52:12] Kind of moment actually of the fact that they did survive it and it being a surprise that it was this kind of like Yeah, bromance moment of them holding hands in order to sort of sabotage Cassandra's plan and I like the fact that mr. Paradox um

[00:52:30] As I say, I think Matthew McFadden here is really you know Hamming up in a really good way for me and intensifying The party played in Succession to some extent because here we do have in groveling And to both b15 who is the um and but also to

[00:52:53] Wolverine and to deadpool what he realizes that they come back alive and aren't dead Yes, this is uh hunter b15 as we've seen her in the tba in the in loki season one and two Played by one mimosaku, of course Great to see her in here

[00:53:08] And it's interesting when you have the tba in here in the in the movie universe The amount of speculation of who was going who from the cast

[00:53:16] Yeah, uh was going to appear in deadpool and wolverine. It's great that they at least got one member of the cast and one Miosaku is fantastic. I really like her so she's here as the head of the tba effectively. Um who shuts down the program and

[00:53:30] Says to deadpool and wolverine that because they have saved the universe effectively that they can live Um, they can go back to their world and his friends are going to be there as well So she kind of pushes the button and saves their life and saves um

[00:53:42] Deadpool and his friends. Yeah, and that's kind of consistent with the end of season two as well around You know the tba questioning its role of just pruning things out of existence and not actually Sort of trying to help timelines

[00:53:57] To survive and carry on. Yes. Um and here it feels you know, it feels consistent with that With what hunter b15 is doing here. Yeah. Yeah, it does But also deadpool asks for all the other friends that helped out the resistance

[00:54:14] Members that were in in the void asked for them to be returned But b15 kind of says well, they can't be they're not going to be able to be returned. So a lecture blade and Gambit won't appear back in the universe

[00:54:26] But one character will which we see at the end x 23 is back Um with logon with deadpool and with all that group of friends that we saw Negasonic teenage warheads kimiko and uh colossus Who else was in there as hax driver who is a depender the tax driver?

[00:54:45] And of course we have the reuniting of deadpool and vines and it looks like absolutely They may mend their relationship name a little bit of hand holding again here as well. So yeah, I It was a kind of a nice sort of

[00:54:58] Wrap up here. I think um, it's not earth shattering. It's not gonna And set the mcu on Any kind of massive change in trajectory? I think it's gonna do anything to the mcu

[00:55:11] But I will talk about that in a minute. I suppose. Um, but the one thing we will say is logons back here Um, he's now got a group of friends. Um, he was the worst

[00:55:21] Wolverine in his universe all of his friends are dead, but he's now got a group of friends He's gonna hang around with deadpool. He said he's gonna retire

[00:55:27] There is a constant running joke that uh, they won't let him ever retire from this role the wolverine that he'd be playing Until he's 92 and seeing the box office that came out this week. What 450 million by sunday worldwide

[00:55:40] They're not letting them go. There will be another wolverine in the future. I would say He will come back at some point I'd say if there if there's gonna be anything he's going to appear in secret wars himself and and

[00:55:53] Deadpool are gonna appear in secret wars along with all of those other characters. I'd say I would say so But a nice little happy ending Poor Hugh Jackman. He's never getting off that Reggie regimen that he's been doing for so many years. Absolutely. Oh my god

[00:56:08] Like his body was phenomenal. I mean there were number of shots. I the one where I think he is Starsing to I he's trying to I don't know whether it's in this final

[00:56:22] Uh moment where he's trying to connect the two energy streams in order to disrupt it but where like His abs are out I'm not saying there's not a bit of CGI manipulation

[00:56:36] But it is it is Deadpool looking him up and down on the abs and I was like dead, right? You know 55 years old and Apparently he was that is him that's that's his body. We've seen it in all the other movies

[00:56:50] There's no CGI on top of on top of that. That is um, that is Hugh Jackman at his stretched Purely working out for that scene and kind of his stretched vest. He didn't have to do it for the whole movie

[00:57:03] I kind of feel ashamed as a 46 year old looking in worse shape than A I guess 55 year old. Um, I mean as I say, you know, it is the olympic year

[00:57:14] Um, if if there was an event for laziness, I'd probably come in fourth just so I didn't have to scale the podium Yeah, exactly. So it's kind of I'm like, oh no

[00:57:28] But it was your job job and you were paid by the studio to go and do that for this one scene Because again, you don't have to do it like 20 times in the movie. That is true and you have bespoke trainers and

[00:57:39] Motivated and you have to eat 20 chickens a day You did that But no, he did look fantastic. Um, it was a nice ending and the movie itself wraps up Instead of having a mid credit scene

[00:57:52] The movie wraps up with loads of outtakes from all of the fox universe movies Including something that we didn't see in the movie But we saw like things like Ben Affleck sitting down with uh with I'm gonna say happy hogan there because I've just forgotten John Fravere's name

[00:58:03] There we go On the set of deadpool Loads of background behind the scene stuff But it really did feel like this is what the movie was trying to accomplish

[00:58:11] It wasn't really trying to be an mcu movie. It was just trying to say goodbye to the fox universe of movies Those movies that made millions of dollars at the box office before the mcu was around really In effect spurred on

[00:58:25] The marvel studios to come into existence in many respects kind of I'd almost say That's the backhand of coppeman because it's almost like kevin feige. He's like i'm done with making crappy versions

[00:58:36] Of my character's I want to go over instead of our studio where we can do our thing with our characters But I think it's a little bit of column a column b. Yeah for sure like both that and also that at the time

[00:58:48] It was the only marvel game in town. So they made money Absolutely, I like and just for examples of that go see the the terrible fan forestick Movie that we did review here on our podcast as well Go see electra if you do want to suffer through it

[00:59:04] And go see that um, yeah, there's some really really bad entries into those movies The consistency is definitely not there like it has been for the mcu Yeah, it was electra. I just remember bags of rice sounds yeah, yep absolutely

[00:59:20] uh, yeah, I don't don't put a subject yourself through that again just because um Jennifer garner was really good in this movie. Is there anything about this movie that we may have missed?

[00:59:29] I may not have talked about john. I think there's a few things that we have missed. I'm sure there is There's the fight in the car. Yes in the honda. Yes Whatever, I can't remember the the I know you want to say civic

[00:59:43] No, it wasn't so much. Um, but in fairness to honda, they'll be like Thanks for the free advertising. Um, but that was really really good actually. There's a great fight

[00:59:54] Yeah, we've seen to go on for hours and hours even comes back the following morning after they've been fighting for hours inside this car It doesn't have to kind of Wrapped up in in seat belts. You have Wade wrapped up in seat belts by wolverine

[01:00:06] That's the only way you can stop the fight in the end But yeah, I thought that was fantastic to do this close quarters battle between the two of them after Um, what what caused it again? Wolfie said

[01:00:16] Oh, yeah, we'll we've already said to uh wades that um, he can't even have a A relationship with a stripper and that through Wade wilson off the edge basically. So that's why they thought Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's a really good fight

[01:00:28] And there's tons of cameos tons of the things that we will never get to no matter how long we um, we Watched this we only seen it in this number once on a massive iMacs 3d screen Really good screening actually really

[01:00:39] It was it was super but i'm sure just like with um other movies like this like spider-man no way home and and Dr. Strange the multiverse of madness when you get at home and get to watch it at home and get to pick

[01:00:50] Up all the other easter eggs that are in there I'm sure there's tons more that we would see but overall john What did you think of deadpool and wolverine do you defend deadpool and wolverine? Yeah, I absolutely defend

[01:01:04] Deadpool and wolverine. I really really enjoyed this movie. I would give this four and a half french kissing pooches out of five and To me I feel a lot of the deadpool movies always kind of really are in your face

[01:01:21] They kind of insist on themselves putting them from some center and this is in some ways no different But I love the sense of humor that pervades these movies and this movie

[01:01:34] I worried that it wasn't going to have that it was going to kind of fall short drop that ball And and to me it carried it on. I think The humor was great. I Enjoyed immensely Hugh Jackman being in this as wolverine which added

[01:01:53] You know added a significant amount here just because you know that character for so long, you know one of the successful you know Thankfully from the x-men Characters, you know, I mean if it'd be miscast wolverine had been a nightmare when you think of fan four stick

[01:02:13] Yeah, you know, that was a great cast for the terrible. Yeah really well cast within Hugh Jackman Beloved and I think that comes through. I think the fact that it interfaces with Logan and you have x-23 in there which I just thought they were some of the best

[01:02:32] sort of serious semi serious moments of this movie around In fact, you know to some degree I was drawn to that more than Wade Wilson wanting to get back to Vanessa in fact to me, you know that moment of x-23 and

[01:02:49] Wolverine around the campfire, you know where he's wondering what it's really is it worth it? What's it all about and you know, she makes the point. Well, you save me I'm here to give you that pep talk

[01:03:01] But it's just done in a really good way and that to me was the heart of this movie And the mess of stuff around The destruction of the fox universe into the voice and you know, effectively those bits

[01:03:15] Not being pruned by the TV a being allowed to survive You know Fur juice and it's a it's a nice little mess. I look I look as I say all the dead pools Coming out really good. I love all the cameos, you know, yeah a lecture grim film

[01:03:34] And Gambit never had a film. Yeah blade first film absolutely phenomenal Yeah, gets more ropey as you move through them But you know a lot of good stuff from the fox either a movie which deteriorates very rapidly with the sequel and the and the threequel or

[01:03:57] You know good directors cuts of them like dare devil And as well or just reboot the universe again like the first class and and the x-men movies If you can't work at the story just rebuild it again The thomas jane punisher again, it's

[01:04:14] classic to his origin story and it's it's a Decent movie. He's a cameo. I'd really like to see here and yeah Actually, there was something in the news this week that john berthol said he's been training with thomas jane

[01:04:27] To get back in shape for punisher in dare devil which is interesting just with all this multiple stuff going on You never know thomas jane may appear in in the dare devil born again tv series. It could happen

[01:04:38] He's a great actor. I love him. Um, so I liked all these cameos for sure And you know, I would love to see kassandra nova again. Yes. Um, as all emma karan superb

[01:04:50] They were great. Yeah, you know as we said we known her from penny worth and and to be honest If i'm totally honest, I wouldn't have put that kind of performance And in her wheelhouse to be honest and in fact her moving to

[01:05:07] Um the crown and playing princess diana. I could see that this to me is a really Great performance. It's I feel as though it's actually going against what she would feel comfortable doing And so fur juice to her and I it really paid off. It was a great

[01:05:26] Villainous performance. So uh, love to see her kassandra nova Again, so all of it put together. I really enjoyed four and a half french kissing pooches out of five for me Excellent excellent stuff all far four and a half doggy breaths out of five very good. Very good

[01:05:46] Derek what about yourself? Do you defend? Deadpool and wolverine I defend it. I'm you know, I'm not as high up in these movies as you know, john The comedy movies in marvel um, and I tend to find the Deadpool movies are very light

[01:06:01] In terms in terms of story Um, I found it really difficult writing the notes for this for example because I was going to go and Cameo cameo cameo fight fight cameo cameo cameo what happened at the end again

[01:06:13] You know, that's the way I experienced the Deadpool movie, but this was a lot of fun I came out laughing we came out talking and smiling

[01:06:20] Which is a great accomplishment in any movie for me. So um, so you come out a lot of joy a lot of fun It was completely different the way I thought the movie was going to be

[01:06:30] I thought this absolutely was going to be an mcu deadpool movie. It's not it's saying goodbye to the fox universe So Lots of the cameos that are in here were real surprises because I expected things like

[01:06:42] Oh, maybe they will get rubber down junior back for two minutes on screen or Chris Evans back as captain america just to welcome Deadpool into the mcu

[01:06:50] But I don't think you've even done that they've got happy hogan. Um as the person from the mcu. They've got one misaku from Loki Are they the only two marvel universe characters that are actually in the movie pretty much, you know

[01:07:04] They reference the tva, but there's no background characters on the tva in there other than one misaku Which is interesting in itself like they only have hunter b15 So there are so many characters you would think they would have hoped fun at something like the eternals

[01:07:17] Or they would have hoped fun at maybe how the marvels did and bring in some of those Actors to do cameos in this movie if it was a real mcu movie So I guess

[01:07:26] Is that the next thing is that what they're going to do with the sequel to this movie? That's already made almost half a billion dollars in a weekend Will they have a real deadpool in the mcu movie next? It's interesting to say that because

[01:07:38] I mean you have the reference to some degree around Um captain america obviously, but it is the human talk. But nonetheless, it's like kind of your goma is maybe captain america really No, I know it's not because you know what I mean. Um, but like

[01:07:57] The only other real mention is around dr. Strange with the sling ring and about the you know The magician effectively that being brought into the void. Yeah, so that's kind of interesting To have that referenced because I could see

[01:08:16] You know dr. Strange is quite a straight character, but always plays well like with spider man I had seen playing well with um deadpool how people really interested to see Well, I'm kind of thinking around, you know the little post credit scene with thaw

[01:08:32] That had a nice little sense of comedic levity to it, which I think benefit cumberbatch is more than able for so You know, you could do it. Yeah, it'd be interesting. So there you go. There you go. That's our

[01:08:45] Theory thoughts and speculations on what's coming next from deadpool. Um john We pop over and get some feedback from our wonderful fellow defenders. I think we should Yes, thanks so much fellow defenders for sending in your thoughts on deadpool and wolverine

[01:09:00] Better than chris. They went it and saw them move you. Absolutely guys. Sorry, chris. Um First off we have an email from coffee and vodka who says greetings fellow tv agent defenders Oh, I like what you did there

[01:09:15] That was a lot of fun. It'll be a bit before I know if I liked it or not I mean, I'm sure it's good funny action packed and all that But rarely has anything shrunk me by the shoulders and shouted into my face

[01:09:27] You love this right the way this did The idea that a timeline is dependent on a certain individual's existence is either a Mr. Paradox lie or Particularly bad bit of contrivance on the writer's part and how does it bring deadpool to our timeline if he saved his own?

[01:09:47] On the plus side loved Cassandra Johnny storm gambit and the hundred other cameos we got in this strange that There were no lo keys to be seen. They also all but confirmed that there will be no new

[01:10:03] Blade movie would have to say my favorite bit was deadpool digging up logan What was yours? No rating until I've given this another viewing or two piece and take care

[01:10:16] Coffee and vodka. Excellent stuff coffee and vodka. Um, I yeah totally get where you're coming from that, you know You kind of just need to let it sink in because it is kind of like a

[01:10:30] Water pistol being fired into your face and you just need that time to recover From all the water dripping down your face and going up your nose and inching out you need that kind of Sort of breathe relax. Okay. Yep

[01:10:42] What happened there? I mean, it's light with the dog. It's like with uh dog pool What is going on here? What is that about is it real? Is it? CGI is it just purely messed up does better know about this? Um, like whatever it's like

[01:10:58] Lots of stuff going on. So I totally understand that. Yeah, um for me. I'm Absolutely in the same way Loved uh deadpool digging up logan at the start and lots of Uh, look, I thought the fight sequence of it was actually excellent And I think for me

[01:11:18] I really I really did on a serious note. I loved x 23 and wolverine together Yeah, um because it just took me back to logan and we kind of rewatched that movie as well And it's still for me my favorite Logan movie Absolutely ador it and and

[01:11:38] Love the cameos as well To be honest, I think it is just so messed up It probably is dog pool and all the dead pools and I do like you know In fairness, I like their little their loyalty and referencing of rexham with welshpool and paul mullins

[01:12:00] And you know, that's something that I think it's just so cool of them to do that And oh for ryan reynolds to do that and to have you know, his his partner in crime at rexham and

[01:12:12] rob mackle hinney and being involved as well as paul mullen so fair juice And you couldn't really tell that was them until you saw the credits but still It's a good little touch Good little touch and you made a really good reference there coffee book uh about

[01:12:25] The fact that blades calls out i'm the only blade here because he had three movies and The mahar shahli movie seems to be taking a very very long time To come to screen multiple writers have left the project multiple directors have left the project

[01:12:43] They're still saying it's coming And in fact, I think kevin faggiet the San Diego kamikam said this is going to be the next or rated movie from the mcu is blade So that's how it's being described on their on their schedule. So

[01:12:56] Um, so i'm not sure I think at the time they wrote this there was definitely loads of questions over Those questions are still present right now, but I wouldn't put a past them to eventually get a blade movie made Yes, I mean it's a real

[01:13:09] Interesting thing to happen in the middle of the movie. I mean actually all that fourth wall stuff is really good And you know, it's kind of just so self aware in many respects

[01:13:19] And this movie and the way it's written. So it's it's really good. So yeah, thanks so much coffee and vodka Thanks coffee vodka We have a voicemail in from the wonderful mr. Steve brand welcome back Steve absolutely

[01:13:34] Hello tv podcast industries. This is steve. It's been a while, but uh, I'm glad to Send you in a couple quick notes about Deadpool and wolverine. I'm assuming you're gonna cover it at some point

[01:13:46] I just got home from watching it and man. I'm ready to go see it again I really enjoyed the ride. It was it was fun The thing that jumped out at me the most I think or one of the things that jumped out at me the most was

[01:13:58] There was a lot of insider kind of things that if you didn't Know what was going on or you know the backstory you wouldn't get but it wouldn't take away from the story such as early on

[01:14:09] In the in the movie when one of the characters starts to says says something in Deadpool stops everything goes No, you can't improv Knowing that this was filmed during the writer strike and so they couldn't do any

[01:14:19] Any kind of improv or anything like that was was funny to hear that line also Towards the end there one of the shops that Deadpool and wolverine are thrown into a couple of times by Cassandra And they fight past with the other Deadpool's is

[01:14:35] Rob is layfields just feet and if I remember correctly I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Rob life held was one of those illustrators Of marvel many many years ago and it was a joke drive that he couldn't draw feet

[01:14:47] So seeing a sign that was like life held's just feet Was it was pretty funny to see and then I caught it also Okay, I had to pause the recording and re-record a couple of things. So hopefully it sounds right

[01:14:59] But uh, uh towards at the end there when I was reading the credits It looked like Paul mullen played welch Deadpool the Deadpool that they showed a couple of times with the wales flag

[01:15:09] On his on his uniform. I certainly hope that's the paul mullen from the rexham football club that ryan and rob delaney Own also i can't wait to watch it again because i missed the rob delaney cameo

[01:15:21] I know he's in there somewhere, but apparently I just wasn't watching quick enough to see it So anyway, just my quick thoughts love the movie can't wait to go watch it again Can't wait here you guys cover it talk to you later. Thanks so much steve and thanks

[01:15:34] Great to get your thoughts. Um, definitely was uh super paul mollins who played welch pool Interestingly that is also the name of a town in wales is welch pool Is it yes? Very good

[01:15:48] Like little yeah that kind of thing and it's south of rexham as well. It's not that far And so I that's assuming that you call that character welch pool or not welch deadpool Yes, um, but I like the idea that you call it welch pool

[01:16:04] And that is also a bit after the name of the name of a town very good very good You mentioned there uh, steve about the um the fact that this wasn't was done during the rider strike

[01:16:14] And they couldn't improv at all it's a really really good point because I'm sure the first two movies had a lot of Improv but I know they're where challenges for them making the movie because they couldn't do any improv in here

[01:16:24] It had to be all written down in a script approved sent to the sent to the uh Actors to perform effectively very different to the other two movies. So um so while of course Ryan Reynolds and director shon leave you got got a writing credit there

[01:16:41] They had to actually write down what they were saying as well. They couldn't do that just improv on stage So a nice gag in there. I think you said at the end that you missed rob delaney's

[01:16:49] Cameo you might have been meaning to say rob macklehenny's cameo that's in the movie And yeah, I think he's the one behind the glasses we mentioned where we think he is in the movie

[01:16:58] Although in the uh welcome to rexham documentary when they talk about the cameo at the end A little sign comes up on screen and says rob doesn't know we've cut him from the film

[01:17:08] So so we don't know he does get a credit at the end rob macklehenny does get a credit at the end of the movie

[01:17:13] Um, so as a tv agent. So um, so whether that's him or not or whether he actually did add off on the cutting room floor We might not know but I think he is there. I think that's that's part of the joke excellent great stuff

[01:17:25] Thanks, steve. Absolutely. Thanks, steve over on our facebook group We have some feedback in from ray from into the night the moon night podcast He says I came out of the theater just wanting more the film isn't titled as a feel good movie

[01:17:37] But that's exactly what it did it made me feel good all the bluster on the internet over rumors of who was in it And why wolverine doesn't have his iconic mask?

[01:17:45] I'm glad that all blew over me as I was able to enjoy the surprise cameos and by the time wolvey donned the mask I had totally forgotten all the annoying comments from fans online On how they won't watch it because he doesn't have his mask my eyes widen

[01:17:59] And I reckon my mouth went a gape when wolvey pulled it up over his head utter bliss Absolutely the comic book references were also so well appreciated even the tongue-in-cheek dig at five foot three wolvey And I appreciated that seeing patch age of apocalypse wolvey and the iconic

[01:18:16] 251 cover of uncanny x-men when wolvey was crucified by the reavers in australia The level of dedication and thought from the writers just brilliant the meta meaning of the void I discarded properties used by fox as well as some meta chat towards the end

[01:18:29] Deadpool asks wolvey if you'll see him again wolvey slash hue pauses then says uh nah I hope not Made this a highly enjoyable and truly thematic deadpool film ryan reynolds has hit it out of the park

[01:18:42] I won't even mention the cameos. I'm sure they'll be amply covered by other comments here But everything worked wonderfully my only small blemish If at all was that emma carren felt completely overshadowed by the occasion of the film By that I mean she did a brilliant job

[01:18:55] But felicia sandronova took a backseat to the bromance that was wolvey and the closing legacy of the fox films The stakes were high towards the end and she was scary powerful

[01:19:04] But my attention remained with the self-referential meta banter and the allure of who else we'd see pop up It's a film that has made me really appreciate deadpool in film even more and despite what was said

[01:19:15] I really really really hope we get more deadpool and wolvery to the future The best fun I've had in the cinema in a long time rey Excellent stuff. Thanks so much rey for sending your thoughts absolutely. Um, just like yourself Completely loved this movie

[01:19:33] So funny laugh out loud And all the different references whether it's meta between fox and I guess ultimately The mcu but yeah all the comic book references that you mentioned Just really really good. Yeah, you cut a few there that we that we didn't mention

[01:19:51] I know seeing patch which is uh wolverine with the eye patch and the vice james bond type jacket In there that was really cool I remember a rumor going around that that was going to be um the introduction of

[01:20:02] Daniel rag cliff playing wolverine who's been rumored to take over the role as wolverine Like every actor in their 20s and 30s has been rumored to take over wolverine When it's eventually hung up by Hugh jackman

[01:20:13] That was the rumor that he was going to turn around and you'd see you'd see the face of Daniel rag cliff in there Yeah, well interestingly. I feel as though Daniel Radcliffe has got the same kind of Hair type and head

[01:20:26] Yeah, maybe you could certainly do the five foot three wolvey. He could yes. Yes. He's whether he can sort of You know bulk slash hulk it out. Um, I think That would be interesting. I could see him do it. He would have to eat 40 chickens a day

[01:20:43] Nobody should eat 40 chickens a day Kevin hints and also goes some feedback. He simply says superman has wolverine. Absolutely Henry Cavill. That's great. Love Henry Cavill The old cavill meister Great stuff. Thanks Kevin and thanks ray again Greg Schwab says as an eternal 13 year old boy

[01:21:05] These films are a turn to the wheelhouse of my adolescence with raunchy comedy A whole lot of swear words and dick jokes and fanboying around every bit of pop culture references

[01:21:16] Cameos and comic material brought to the big screen and nothing gave me the giggles more than the foul mouth Torch in caps body post credit scene. This was amazing

[01:21:28] I can't even begin to list my favorite cameos because it will have taken new 20 minutes of the podcast to address them all So i'll just say that even though I loved it the bouncing of tone going from silly gratuitous violence and swear words

[01:21:43] Which I loved to ways dramatic flashback mental health recovery was a bit jarring and didn't feel like it matched the rest of the film I felt like I was intently listening for the next dick joke and then it never came just felt weird

[01:21:58] Besides that, I loved the fanservice bringing back forgotten intentional or otherwise characters and actors and practically everything else about the movie Some of my high points Channing Tatum as gambit felt very off at first But after a few minutes, I enjoyed the real

[01:22:16] representation of the character we've gotten Chris Evans was great all round and the music budget while it must have been astronomical Fits so much with the movie. It made it even better I'll end with my observation that they had several actors playing several characters

[01:22:32] That are all supposed to be in the same multi-verse made this even funnier Ryan Reynolds with blade in trinity where he played a mouthy mercenary if I remember Chris Evans as discussed and the re-team up as expected of Reynolds and Jackman

[01:22:51] Even if different versions of the characters as we met them in the origins It made the confusion of the characters on screen even funnier Lastly Cassandra's impression of scarlet witch in multi-verse of madness fingers in the head gave me the bloody creeps

[01:23:10] That's an interesting point actually Greg the the waving of Wanda's fingers as she does her magic. That's Similar to what Cassandra is doing except Cassandra is putting her hands inside people's faces and waving the fingers

[01:23:23] But very creepy. Yeah, it was very creepy, but it was so well done I must say I still Love that whole sequence with her and mr. Paradox. Absolutely. It's just really well done. Yeah. Yeah. It was really good

[01:23:36] A really nice note that you've got there as well about some actors playing several characters that were supposed to be in the same Multiverse before and it's not that I'd forgotten that Reynolds and Jackman had played Wolverine and Deadpool back in Wolverine origins

[01:23:49] I tend to forget that a little bit, but it is interesting that They're very confused at seeing each other to begin with you know as to who they could possibly be so So yeah, it's really really good that they were there. I know in the Deadpool universe

[01:24:04] Doesn't Deadpool go and kill Ryan Reynolds before he takes now he kills Ryan Reynolds before he takes the role of Green Lantern and then goes and kills himself playing the part of Deadpool at that time in that version basically, so yeah, absolutely

[01:24:17] And great stuff Greg and so glad you enjoyed this In terms of the fan service great to get your thoughts some lovely Bits of feedback there. Absolutely. Thanks, Greg

[01:24:29] We also have some feedback in from muscle Hooper who says that awful Wolverine mask may be spit out my drink when I first saw it And Doug pool is going to give me nightmares the opening fight using using Logan's bones was brilliant

[01:24:41] When the cameos and the void were cropping up. I didn't catch That they were all fox movie characters I'm forgetting a name when the girl from Logan showed up on a lecture blade and gambit

[01:24:50] He was awesome or being verbally trashed by Deadpool. They were mentioning how they were forgotten Thrown away disliked or never made franchises. I expected the girl to be daisy ridley playing ray Absolutely no connection to marvel

[01:25:02] But I could see dead pool just giving her giving her crap about how some fans hate ray not daisy Let's get that clear and the sequels that would have been a boss move by disney for the record

[01:25:12] Wade faked the video of johnny storm at the post credit scene. Oh, I don't know about that russle And finally says one final bit of trivia I live in Tennessee the main supplier of power to most of the state is the Tennessee Valley Authority or the tv

[01:25:24] Hey, is there's something we don't know There's a whole city between Nashville and Knoxville that is known as the secret city without going into details The Manhattan project was done there makes you wonder Excellent bit of trivia there

[01:25:37] The Tennessee Valley Authority. I love that. I would watch out Depends on how high the bills start getting Because of the amount of power they need to to sort of pull To run the universe exactly. Yeah, but yeah, no, that's that's really interesting and

[01:25:55] The tv a and the secret city in well, I guess in Tennessee um Yet dog pool is also a did give me nightmares And I did but it's still It was way over the top snarking between an animal and a human and I just was hearing that

[01:26:17] I know it's always errors afterwards. Yeah, and yeah, I really enjoyed that opening fight As well It would have been interesting if they'd pulled all the properties in for the disney plus that would have been quite an Interesting

[01:26:30] Sort of way to go. Yeah, I think I feel as though star wars it may have almost be Be seen as sacrilegious But you never know it would have been interesting It would have but again

[01:26:42] It's kind of the different experience coming out of the cinema that I had going into it I was going into a thinking oh, they're really going to start Having a go at the MCU because they can they're here now They're gonna make fun of all the MCU movies

[01:26:56] And then they didn't at all they they poked some fun at Kevin Feige in jokes that we had actually seen in the trailers Um, but not really They don't really stray beyond the walls of the fox universe which is ending basically so

[01:27:07] They have their bit of fun and then end in that lovely Yeah, montage of of uh behind the scenes things kind of saying you did a good job Your universe is over now. Then we'll move on to the MCU next time. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, thanks so much Russell

[01:27:20] Richard blaze says a really strong way to end the trilogy and for me better than the second The Chris Evans cameo got me. I was so excited to think he was back as cap I was totally blind-signed is when he shouted flame on

[01:27:36] Love Deadpool searching for the wolverines so much great acknowledgement to the past comics and characters The tva was done well and felt like an extension from the Loki series really want Loki to appear at some point

[01:27:50] Oh, and Henry Cavill the fundamentals of Deadpool movie is violence swearing and long drawn out over the top insults And this film had it all a plenty and I loved it I need to watch it several more times though to get the full list of easter eggs

[01:28:08] Totally totally agree Richard yeah, just to you know flag that we're doing the podcast on the basis of a single watch So if we've missed anything, you know apologies, but there is so much in this movie

[01:28:23] Hence why this feedback section is so good for any of those little bits that maybe we've just not picked up on exactly And we're just running out of time at the moment. That's what we couldn't wait for Chris to go to the cinema

[01:28:34] We don't have another week exactly, but there are there are so many easter eggs so many cameos It's all really really good and like yourself. I think this Um is better than the second

[01:28:47] I kind of get you on that and and it's not just because that it is a dead Pool movie with its violence swearing and long drawn out insults as you say But I think the fact you know you are bringing wolverine in and you have to acknowledge that

[01:29:02] And that yes, it is a dead pool movie. Yes, you have that moment of fun and reverence towards wolverine I think that's what they did. They had their fun with wolverine, but they had their reverence to the comics To

[01:29:19] At least the last movie that he starred in which was Logan and I that's what I really thought Was top notch here for sure. So great stuff. Thanks, Richard

[01:29:29] Absolutely. Thanks Richard. Philip Egerglure NCO says I really enjoy the movie so funny and sarcastic just like its main character Love the cameos and the jokes dead pool makes about them still think that the lecture is a bad movie though

[01:29:40] Nostalgia is not that strong to make me change my mind about it I was expecting more x-men content and cameos, but I enjoyed that this movie was a farewell to all the fox movies

[01:29:49] And not an introduction to mutants in the mcu one last thing quick question about the Wesley Snipes being the only Blade joke. Do you think it's an irony suggesting that the martial Ali movie will never come out?

[01:30:00] It's always changing writers or directors or an irony that the character who doesn't know a new blade is being made That's an interesting question, uh, philippe I think it can work on both levels if the

[01:30:11] Movie comes out in the future. Yeah, then they can say it was just about just a joke about Wesley Snipes believing he's the only blade that could ever be and ever will be I actually think now that I say it out loud I think he actually said that

[01:30:24] Um at one point I think Wesley Snipes said why didn't they just ask me to come back and be blade? I would have done it. Why are they hiring somebody else? Yeah, exactly. I'm the only blade that I will be

[01:30:34] Similar to David Hasselhoff saying he's the only nick fury there ever would be as well But um, that tends to happen with possessiveness of some actors to their roles In the past so it might have just been that um

[01:30:44] But yes, there is a trouble production on blade that we all know about as as people that follow uh follow What's going on? Um, hopefully it does get made because I just want to see maher shallow Lee back in the marvel universe

[01:30:55] I'd love to see maher shallow ali as well back in Uh marvel loved him as cottonmouth king. Um in loot cage And it would be so good to have him Uh sort of pop up in the mcu I think also as well just because

[01:31:13] It feels to me is that it would link into You know the post credit scene of the eternals as well I think because you know, we know that the eternals will be referenced in the upcoming captain america movie

[01:31:26] And it'd be great to have that kind of whole thing with the black knights Their blade and so on that kind of little corner of the mcu sort of getting a bit of development So who knows? And but yeah for sure. I think it will work

[01:31:42] Potentially both ways if they need it to so yeah good stuff. Thanks for the pay. Absolutely. Thanks. I'm also there with you Electra does not age well and will never age well even with nostalgia

[01:31:55] I think don't they get age well from the edit until it was put in the cinema Like nobody liked it when I came out in the cinema. I feel really sorry for

[01:32:03] For them when they did that it was the same thing as cat woman the um, hally berry movie, you know hally berry Great actress. I've just done one an oscar from ostrich's bowl Then went off and did cat woman that kind of ended the career

[01:32:13] She ended up going back into the x-men universe to play storm because you know everybody's looking at her going Is that your movie choice after you win an oscar? But anyway, that's the dc uh bad movies Good stuff. Thanks, philly pay

[01:32:29] Finally from facebook we have john daniel who says I adored the fourth wall abuse and fan service I thought it was hilarious and had heart wolverines mask was effing epic and the fight scene in the honda was flawless loved it totally totally agree

[01:32:49] The the fight scene in the honda was just superb. I really liked wolverines mask Okay, but I do feel there was a weird thing going on with the eyes. Do you know what it was? Go on. I found it afterwards. Um, he has the same eyes as

[01:33:04] Deadpool. Yeah, exactly white eyeballs and it feels weird on wolverines mask exactly and I liked the master No, I did I like the mask, but I kept getting drawn to the eyes. And yeah, I realized it was because they were the same sort of uh

[01:33:18] cloudy white eyes as as deadpool But it also it it was the shadow it looked like he had sort of eyeliner at the bottom Or it was slightly open like the batman. Um, it was just it There was something about it that Tucked me out of the oh

[01:33:37] Epicness of the actual mask itself because it was it was cool. Um, I'm not saying it's not before We go down that road. Oh no, there's I think Ray mentioned earlier on those There were loads of complaints ahead of time

[01:33:51] That he was going to be wearing the mask or he wasn't gonna be wearing the mask and then when they did see us Then they said they didn't want it. They wanted a better one They wanted a different one loads people have commented on us. We didn't

[01:34:01] I really enjoyed the scene where he pulled it up because it came out of nowhere after an hour and a half of the movie He's effectively had this mask

[01:34:09] Behind his head that he wasn't going to pull it on until that big battle moment and I think it worked Really well in there, but um, but yeah, it's the eyes

[01:34:16] That's definitely the the thing that kind of throws you off on because it looks very different from what you'd expect Yeah, exactly. I think it just looked maybe heavily CGI enhanced because of those eyes probably to sort of old Hughes jawline

[01:34:35] Yep, but I still loved it. Yep. Yep. Excellent stuff Thank you all so much for your awesome feedback. You pulled it out of the bag there defenders I'm glad you all mostly at least enjoyed just in the cinema as well. Uh fun summer experience

[01:34:48] It's it's a weird year. We're not getting as much Marvel content as we normally do like we're we're months past the last thing we covered on Marvel and still got a few months to go until we cover

[01:34:58] Agatha all along and then the next Marvel movie that's coming up is Captain America Um, which I am really excited for especially after the panel that was at San Diego Comic Con this week that we were watching Yeah

[01:35:08] Really excited to see what they're gonna do in the universe with the new Captain America movies So that'll be exciting and though Thunderbolts is coming next year as well with the misfist characters of Marvel Yeah, I'm really looking forward to Thunderbolts

[01:35:22] Now, I mean, you know Florence Pugh. Yeah Fantastic. Um, got bucky coming back bucky Absolutely Sebastian sand like I've got a soft spot for him for short. So might have a hard spot for him So I'm really looking forward to the Thunderbolts. We also had Fantastic Four Going

[01:35:44] Sort of the Jetsons there Um, yeah, I mean for me Fantastic Four Fan smash dick schmaw For me it's always dr. Doom with the Fantastic Four and and He always kind of saves them Of the movie and it'll be interesting to see how this goes. Um

[01:36:06] Like they've done they've done what is it is it four Fantastic Four movies? There was the the the movies that had Chris seven in in them the first first two I suppose that released there was a Roger Corman one that's only available in youtube

[01:36:17] And then fan four stick so they've tried it four times and it's failed all those times But they've never tried it in the MCU and here In the MCU version we've got Pedro Pascal as Mr Fantastic, we've got the kid from Stranger Things who's who's playing Johnny Storm

[01:36:32] We've got Evan Moss back rack who was in the Punisher playing micro and also Excellent in the bear as well. And they've got Vanessa Kirby from Mission Impossible coming in as as Sue Storm Like what a great

[01:36:43] Central cast and then the master revealed the weekend that dr. Doom is going to be played by Robert Downey jr. Absolutely the playing Victor von Doom as well. The cast looks great It's obviously not in Marvel 616. Um, it's a different Time

[01:36:59] That's that's the suspicion. Oh, that's the suspicion. Yeah, Matt Shackman said that he put together the a little teaser clip of what could be Around when they get to Fantastic Four and they're starting filming this week So nothing's actually been filmed for the movie itself

[01:37:13] But he's kind of put it put together kind of a mood board With a lot of special effects apparently um of what it could look like and it looks like as you said john

[01:37:21] I kind of an alternate version of the 60s. Yeah, or it's almost like the initial A couple of episodes from Wanda vision and that kind of era but more Advanced in terms of what they can do so hovering cars like the Chessons

[01:37:39] So it's it's almost like fallout in a sense, right, you know, it's retro science fiction And that will be kind of interesting because that is definitely a nice way of taking it And I think so we'll see absolutely and dr. Doom coming back Like that's cool again

[01:38:00] Haven't been able to successfully create dr. Doom on screen in the past So hopefully Robert Downey Jr in the role will be an interesting one that has Divided fandom all over the place. Do you want Robert Downey Jr back as a brand new character?

[01:38:15] Will there be an explanation why he'll look like Tony Stark and lots of people still know Tony Stark in the Marvel Cinematic Universe So there will be something there. I'm sure they have a plan notion that it's a different universe

[01:38:26] Yeah, but if he walks into our MCU, you know Went to the 616 since all the other characters see him Will they recognize them as Tony Stark? You know, so it's a very interesting idea

[01:38:37] I've always said Tony Stark was a villain right back from from Civil War when he was up against thieves So I'm with it But the other big announcement that came finally confirmed the rooster brothers are returning To the MCU to direct the Avengers 5 and 6 Avengers

[01:38:54] Doomsday it's now called no longer the Kang dynasty for reasons It's now going to be called doomsday. So probably starring Robert Downey Jr. And Avengers secret war Yeah, and apparently it was in the provision for Robert Downey Jr

[01:39:10] That he would only return to the MCU if the rooster brothers came back to direct the movies. So That's why they're all back. That's why they were all on stage at San Diego Comic Con

[01:39:20] And that's why their wallets no longer close and will never close again for the next couple of hundred years Excellent. So so we've not only covered Deadpool Wolverine and talked about your awesome feedback We've also covered all the uh

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[01:41:03] Yep. Yep, and we'll be back in the marvel universe for agatha all along in september Now we are going to be taking a little break. We have to mention that we're not going to be back

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[01:41:34] Yes, absolutely brilliant stuff. Thanks so much for joining us. We'll talk to you again next time Yes, thank you so much fellow defenders and of course movie goers for joining us for Deadpool and wolverine until the next movie of course Keep watching keep listening and let's go. Bye