Lanterns Episode 8 Review

[00:00:00] This is the Lanterns Podcast on TV Podcast Industries and we're discussing the final episode, Episode 8 of Lanterns, Dirt and Stars. I got fritzed out when you were talking to Kerry. What were the last words that I said? I mean, exactly. What dare you say?

[00:00:26] Welcome back fellow guardians. Welcome back fellow Lanterns. This is the Lanterns Podcast on TV Podcast Industries and we're discussing Lanterns Episode 8, Dirt and Stars.

[00:01:20] Yes, it is the final podcast of our coverage of Lanterns from DC and I am one of your hosts, John. I am your other host, Derek, for the finale. Yeah. Yeah, welcome back. There's still no news on whether we're getting a second season. We know that they've put together a writers room for the second season of Lanterns.

[00:01:40] That has not been confirmed because of, as some people may know, a massive takeover of lots and lots of different companies all under one umbrella company now called Skydance. So that includes HBO, includes Paramount, includes loads of other companies. So there is no particular confirmation that we're going to get more of Lanterns, unfortunately, just yet. Well, let's see. Certainly from my side, it does deserve a second season. Absolutely.

[00:02:09] If they want to keep it on the TV track, I get it. It can intermingle with the films. So it would be interesting just to see how I think it progresses from here because, yeah, one becomes two in the reverse Spice Girls tune. I guess that would be yellow as well. Maybe. In the DC universe, the Spice Girls would all be yellow. They'd be dressed in yellow. What would they be dressed in in the regular universe?

[00:02:39] Not yellow. Why? It was a reverse Flash. Oh, okay. I get you. Well. All that. So it's one becomes two as we get the fracturing of Sector 2, 8, 1, 4. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Or a million becomes 999, 999 and one. Yes. Possibly. Something like that. But no, the other great thing about Lanterns is they've been releasing the ratings every week as well.

[00:03:06] And it's up to 18 million ratings for the episode. So by most metrics, this show is doing very, very well. It would be crazy not to do a second season unless, as you say, John, they are planning to just spin this into a Lanterns movie as a sequel. As we've closed out who is the main Lantern for Earth and who's the main Lantern for the Sector as well. Yeah, I guess so. But it'll be interesting to see. Exactly.

[00:03:31] And hopefully, touch wood, we get this Lantern, John Stewart as well as Guy Gardner back in some form moving forward. Yep. We know we'll have at least one of them next year in Man of Tomorrow, as we've mentioned. It did feel a little sad for Nathan Fillion. It felt like he was getting a P45 live on screen at the time. But alas, he is still around. Yes. So I am quite pleased about that. Yeah. Despite the her do.

[00:03:58] Just quickly, before we do the who, what, where, when and how, remember fellow Lanterns to pop on over to the website at tvpodcastindustries.com, where you can, of course, subscribe to any green, blue or white Lantern podcast player of your choice. We are in the throes of feedback and Rushville Redneck Pub Quiz.

[00:04:22] So please send in your thoughts, theories and observations as well as your quizzing answers to feedback at tvpodcastindustries.com. And of course, on the pub quiz, on the Rushville Redneck Pub Quiz, indeed, we have our final question for this episode. And we'll see who gets those goodies in our roundup and follow-up podcast on the Lanterns.

[00:04:50] Yeah, we're recording a little bit early this week, as I mentioned last week, and as I mentioned in our Facebook group. So if you haven't got your feedback in now, make sure you send it in to us in the next couple of days. And of course, send in your answers for the Rushville Redneck Pub Quiz, and we'll chat about all your thoughts and announce the person who's getting the goodies on the next episode of this podcast. But I think we need to get into this episode discussion, John. Yes, exactly. Derek, what are some of the episode details?

[00:05:14] Well, the showrunners for the show are Chris Mundy, Damon Lindelof, and Tom King, who are also the writers for this specific episode, all working together throughout the series, making sure we got to this final point in this final episode. The episode was directed by Alex Sakharov, who we mentioned last week, who directed episode seven of Lanterns, and is known for directing episodes of Ozark, House of Cards, and Game of Thrones as well. John, do you want to tell us what they gave us with your synopsis for Lanterns episode eight? Dirt and Stars.

[00:05:44] Sure. In 2016, in the aftermath of the destruction of Rushville, Kerry Kane rushes to make sure Hal Jordan is safe in the debris of the motel. Ten years later, in 2026, Kerry is waiting for Hal as he is released from prison, and despite the town's hostility, the two begin a relationship. Hal gradually rebuilds his life and tries to make amends for the destruction he caused, but his fragile second chance is shattered when his home is firebombed.

[00:06:13] Noah, Kerry's son, secretly saves Hal using his extraordinary abilities. Meanwhile, back in the alien world, John Stewart discovers the truth about Noah from Sinestro, that Noah is a manhunter created through Zoe's experiments and struggling against his own programming. Sinestro reveals that Noah freed him from captivity and commissioned him to create a powerful lantern, fueled by fear.

[00:06:41] John takes the lantern, but is warned that using it could have consequences. When John confronts Noah, the teenager admits that he killed Hal, apparently to prevent him from revealing his secret to his mum, Kerry. Noah then reveals that terrifying conflict inside of him. Part of him wants a normal human life, while his manhunter programming urges him towards power and destruction.

[00:07:05] Terrified of what he might become, Noah removes John's ring and asks him to kill him after his final game as quarterback for his team, the Pioneers. At the football match, John watches the game with Kerry, where finally the real truth is revealed. Hal, after being saved by Noah, understood his true identity and urged Kerry to flee with her son. Terrified of losing Noah, and believing Hal would expose him, Kerry shoots Hal in the head.

[00:07:34] John chooses not to turn Kerry in, believing Hal would have wanted Noah protected. With Noah choosing to continue his normal life, John makes his own decision. He summons Guy Gardner and declares that he will protect Earth independently of the Guardians and the Green Lantern Call. He says to Guy, you take the stars, I'll take the dirt. After one final conversation with Hal's holographic imprint, John embraces the fear he has spent years fighting and creates his own lantern oath.

[00:08:04] He returns to his family, charges his ring, and finally takes flight and becoming Earth's Green Lantern on his own terms. Up, up and away. Absolutely, John finally gets to fly. He does? Yes. Great stuff. I like that that's the kind of closing moment of the episode, that all the way throughout the season, the early parts of the season, he's just trying to learn how to fly. That's the big lesson he wants to get. And really, he just puts the ring on, says his oath, and then he's able to fly because he deserves it.

[00:08:34] Really? Yeah, absolutely. Really good. Yeah, really good. I thought this was a really good closeout, to be honest. Yeah. I think you can tell it's going into something. I thought it wrapped up everything pretty comprehensively. It did. And certainly it was more conversational and dialogue driven than I was expecting. Yeah.

[00:08:58] But that's no bad thing, because I felt utterly fulfilled from this series. So really good. Really good for me. Excellent. Yes, yes. Well, let's talk about our major moments from the episode, John, and our power ring points. Yes. First up, power ring point number one. Four. Can we have eight, maybe, on this one? No, it's four, but on the moon, I think, this time.

[00:09:28] Right. Very good. Very good. Just as the old astronauts did. It's amazing to think that the bottle opener has made it all the way from the first episode to the last episode, because I couldn't find a better sound effect for the Green Lantern ring throughout the series. Our point number one, our power ring point number one, murder, manhunters, and the Kane family. Ultimately here, we get the resolution to the mystery that has been going on throughout

[00:09:57] the entire series, and that is the truth about Hal Jordan's murder. Why he was covered in snow with a bullet through the head without his ring at the football ground of the Pioneers in Rushville, Nebraska. And I thought this was really nicely done on a few little sort of distractions and red herrings. Yeah, absolutely.

[00:10:26] But ultimately, we have here that it is his post-sentence love of his life and the town sheriff. It is revealed to be Kerry Kane, to be the killer of Hal. And it's kind of an interesting thing because it's out of fear of what he's suggesting to do in a sense.

[00:10:50] And again, it's, you know, you have that really nice moment where as that truth is being revealed because there's a few layers to this. Yes, there is. But as the truth is being revealed or is being teased out of Kerry by Jon Stewart, he talks about his own mother sort of teaching him to be fearless. Yes. And we saw that in some of the flashbacks where he was put out into sort of really rough

[00:11:20] parts of town and then had to make his own way back. But as Jon says as well, it was also that, you know, his mom was scared and terrified because she was waiting for him to come or not through the front door after doing what she's done.

[00:11:41] And he ultimately could see that Kerry knew exactly how his mother and what his mother had gone through because she knew about Noah. Noah thought that she didn't. And so was ultimately sort of left with this impossible choice to be this protective mother. Yeah, more so.

[00:12:08] Noah knew she knew he was a manhunter, but she thought that Noah didn't know he was a manhunter. That's the even more. Sorry. That's what I meant. Essential part. Yeah, that's why it's so complicated what's going on here. The two of them are trying to protect each other with their actions all the way through this. Exactly. And Jon is drawing that connection between himself and his mother Bernadette that she would be sitting at home not breathing at all until he walked in through the door.

[00:12:34] And he thought it was just about making him fearless when she is getting more and more terrified. The greater everything amps up. And he's kind of saying to Kerry, you must have been breathing for the last 18 years. That was a great line. In case someone found out that your son's a manhunter. That was a great line. She was holding her breath for his entire childhood, says Jon, about his own mother. Yeah, exactly. That's what he meant was that she thought he didn't know he was a manhunter. Exactly.

[00:13:02] And so I was trying to protect him from that. But he did know. Yeah. And he wanted to protect her from knowing that what he was. That he knew. Exactly. So I love how that's lined out because we have that moment with Hal and Kerry sleeping together in Hal's apartment in the motel or in Hal's house, sorry. And he asks her to stay. And Kerry says, well, I'm not ready for him to know just yet.

[00:13:32] And then when we see Noah saving Hal, we hear Noah saying to her, I don't want my mom to know that I know. And you think he's talking about their relationship, but he's actually talking about, I don't want my mom to know that I know that I'm a manhunter. Yes, exactly. And I have access to all of these tools. So a really interesting family secret and family dynamic that's being kept. And yeah, I love this. I love that we have the reveal of who the murderer of Hal is in the final episode. There were loads and loads of theories throughout the season.

[00:14:02] I don't think Kerry ever really left our list. And I love that she was put back on the list by the hologram last episode when he arrived and talked to her for the first time and was like, oh, yeah, she definitely killed me. And then it moved around another few suspects. But she was put back on top of the list. So great writing. That's it. Absolutely. I really enjoyed the breadcrumbs throughout the season. So as you say, with Kerry Kane, but equally with Noah. But it's almost the absence of breadcrumbs.

[00:14:29] There's such a central moment between him and his grandmother, as we find out. But, you know, it doesn't as such evolve within the series. But it is doing out of sight, out of mind for both what he thinks his mom and for himself to, you know, from Kerry's point of view. So but also the audience.

[00:14:51] So I like the kind of little trails or lack of that kind of hinted at, but never fully gave away stuff. So actually, even though I'm there going, I knew Noah was up to something. I knew there was, you know, this secret around him. And it's actually really great to for it to come out and be revealed. I don't there's a problem with it either.

[00:15:16] There's the whole thing of the mystery box, which people talk about with things like Lost, where they didn't know where the show was actually going. They created a really fun, interesting show for five to seven seasons. I think it was five seasons of that show. I can never remember because of the amount of episodes that were there. But they created a really interesting show and then closed out the storyline. And by the end of it, if you'd stayed with the whole thing the whole way through it, you probably enjoyed the journey and probably enjoyed the characters and probably were happy with this and satisfied with the end.

[00:15:44] If you jumped in to the final episode after watching a few seasons, you probably weren't very satisfied with it because they didn't leave the breadcrumbs throughout the story. Whereas here, I think you could watch Lanterns on the first episode, have a guess at who the murderer of Hal is. And by the end of it, be pretty satisfied with the reveal of who the murderer is and the reason why. Because the complication really is in how it gets to the reason why.

[00:16:09] This story of what actually happened or the story of partly what happened comes from the conversation with Sinestro on this far off planet where John is torturing him to get all of this information at him by dunking him in the waters of the fear sea or the fear lake, I guess, that he can't get past. And we hear that effectively he has been stashed on the planet here by Noah, who has used his grandmother's, what are we calling it?

[00:16:39] The transporting dot? What's the? The portal. Yeah. Who has been using his grandmother's portal to come to this planet. He is the one that broke Sinestro out of prison. He broke him out so he could get him to this planet and he could build him a lantern that would allow him to charge Hal's ring when he stole it, is the plan. He never got to steal Hal's ring.

[00:17:01] He never got back to visit Sinestro on the planet because when Hal found out that Noah was the Manhunter, he stole the portal and moved it into his safe. Yeah, absolutely. And the reason he's back there is because he was able to get the portal out of the safe with John and come back here as the hologram. And then that's how we learn everything from Sinestro because Hal had gone there in the past and told Sinestro everything that had gone on with Noah. Well, absolutely.

[00:17:31] The reveal of Noah is really good. I like how it sort of takes place over this episode. I mean, also just in terms of the murder, he does claim that he murders Hal. Yes. And in order to effectively sort of protect his mom and whether he knows he didn't do it. And he put, he's wondering who, who is it? I guess he's guessing that it's his mom.

[00:17:55] So there is that element to the reveal of Kerry Kane. Again, another dynamic within the Kane family as well happening here. But yeah, Noah's secret that he's a Manhunter. I love how this ultimately comes from Hal being attacked in his own house. He's preparing a bit of steak and bison for Earl.

[00:18:22] And then he gets a Molotov cocktail thrown in as his house is firebombed. And he really doesn't get out. He kind of crashes through the stirs as they've weakened in the fire. And he's, he's lying there. Presumably Earl is as well, because Earl does show up at the end. So Earl doesn't get burnt. And we do see Earl when Jon Stewart's there. So yes. So Earl manages to get out alive as well, presumably by Noah.

[00:18:51] So Noah saves two people. There you go. Yes. Both John and Earl. But the interesting thing here, Hal wakes up there where Noah has repaired him kind of in the same way that his grandma Zoe had done to Jon Stewart with the skin grafts with the machine there in this warehouse. I do like this.

[00:19:16] He says, I wish there was a way I could save you without realizing, without you realizing what I am. And this is where we find out that my mom doesn't know that I know. Yeah. It's the first time we get this. And then it's sort of recounted, immediately cuts into Sinestro on the alien world where he says the boy is a manhunter. As he's speaking to Jon Stewart about Hal coming to tell him everything.

[00:19:43] I like how it cuts in and out of Sinestro here where he talks about and he started to follow him. And you see how he's sort of just keeping tabs on Noah because I think seeing what he gets up to, what he does.

[00:20:07] But he seemingly has promised to respect Noah's secret despite him sort of keeping tabs on him. Yeah, he promised that he wouldn't reveal the secret and then followed him and found out he was going to the planet, found out Sinestro was there. Yeah. And then that's when he goes back to tell Kerry that he knows her son's a manhunter and they need to get out of this town. Yes. The manhunter was already found there 10 years beforehand.

[00:20:32] And so he feels like we need to keep him safe, suggests that they go running. And Kerry gets completely freaked out by it and almost as a reaction kills Hal. It's not even it's not premeditated murder. It's it's reactionary when he's telling her how serious what's going on with her kid is.

[00:20:54] Um, so interestingly, she also tells the story of the fact that when she got her finger replaced, she ended off being pregnant with Noah. So was that intended by the manhunter to impregnate her with Noah? You know, when we heard Zoe meet Kerry the first time, she says, you're exactly what I'm looking for, effectively. So was she looking to to create a child or did the procedure fix a pregnancy within her? I think it could be.

[00:21:23] It certainly would. It would certainly make sense for that. That, you know, Zoe's language there was twofold. One that she could protect her when the time arose, which is kind of how you took it in that moment. But equally, you know, they say it's like some sort of experiment, but the technology is really advanced. I think whether she's experimenting or not, I think it might not be experimenting as such more.

[00:21:53] She's this is what she's looking to do. As Kerry says, you know, I hadn't been with anyone for months, so she knew it wasn't her. So I think this is part of Zoe's plan. We also do have Hal sort of saying before he's getting shot, do you know if there are any more children in Rushville that are manhunters like Noah? Like, was this part of a bigger plan? You know, Zoe technically was the last manhunter. Yeah.

[00:22:22] So she was looking to sort of build out the species again, in a sense, as far as she was aware, or at least to have these allies with her beyond just simple puny humans. And do you know what I mean? So you just wonder. But ultimately, Kerry says no. But I still think they could make Maggie a manhunter in the future, potentially. Especially the fact that she gets all that money that she was bribing John for.

[00:22:52] I just didn't think there was enough of the character and what was left on screen that I know anything other than her father died in the big attack and John gave her money because she said, I want money off you. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Like she was blackmailing John, saying that she would tell everybody or tell Kerry that he was the one that punched Hal in the face. Well, none of that really mattered because Kerry is the one that killed Hal.

[00:23:19] I mean, I think, well, Kerry does, you know, she makes that choice. It's an interesting one because I'm like, what is, like, it does feel inherently like a choice of a mother to protect her child. Oh, yeah. However, is it more because Hal knows? I mean, because she's kind of like, and you should never have come back before. Sort of. It's almost like he winds her up to the point where that's her reaction is to pull out, spin around and shoot him in the head.

[00:23:50] Like, in a sense, it's not premeditated. She didn't draw him to the grounds of the football pitch to do that. But, you know, it's Hal that's kind of burst her bubble to say that he knows what he is. She didn't know that because she says, well, he doesn't know what he is. But he's like, he does. And he's doing stuff that's really potentially very, very dangerous. And he's got a plan. And you need to leave the town.

[00:24:20] You need to sort of pack your bags and get out of town. So all of this becomes too much in this moment for Kerry. And it plays out with her shooting him in the head. Yeah. So, again, really interesting here because, you know, that reaction to the hologram in the classroom, in the chemistry classroom, really good.

[00:24:48] I like that the hologram as well was like, well, I think she may have killed me, you know, putting her on the menu from the previous episode. So, yeah, all this was really good, I thought, how it tied in, to be honest. Absolutely. Absolutely. Anything else on that main reveal at the end of the episode, John? I know we've got lots of other stuff to talk about as well.

[00:25:08] I just like the thing that Kerry says to John Stewart, really, where she says she escaped from a monster in Gotham. And she wanted to make sure that she wasn't raising a monster. I kind of did like this. And I think this plays in partly to our second point as well. But I liked that that's what she needs to know.

[00:25:38] And maybe in that moment when she killed Hal, she didn't know that. And that's why it was too much for her. Yeah. Yeah. I really like the explanation there as to why she called John after 10 years of him being out of town, having no connection with Hal. Why would she call him to say Hal's dead? And actually because she recognizes he's a good investigator. And bring him back to the town, he might be able to give her the answer that she's really looking for. Which is, yeah, that's a really cool tie in for our tie up for that storyline. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:26:08] Shall we get into our powering point number two? Let's do it. Yes. John Stewart's journey. We effectively have John going from apprentice to the master. I mean, the Green Lantern, but not the Green Lantern. Well, yeah. The kind of more, I guess, somewhere in between Green and Yellow Lantern. Well. The Green-Yellow Lantern. Do you know what I really liked about this?

[00:26:38] Because I was saying to Chris, all fair, because Chris is our big kind of comic fan. He knows a bit more about the Green Lanterns and the Lanterns overall from comic books. And I kind of said, look, we'll pare back on sharing stuff about the 60 years of comic knowledge unless it's said on screen. Unless things are done on screen. So the idea of the Green and Yellow Lantern stuff isn't really talked about on screen. It's like the first creation of it is what we see in this episode here. Yes.

[00:27:06] But we haven't got, you know, this whole group of other space aliens who are running around with yellow rings and they're being powered by fear or anything like that. Here we have Sinestro, who has turned on the Green Lantern Corps. He was released from prison by Noah, brought to this planet to make a new Green Lantern so he could charge up Hal's ring when he gets it. And while he's built this lantern on this planet, it's been infused with the fear of the people that were killed there by the Manhunters.

[00:27:35] There's loads of yellow marks, so it streaks through this Green Lantern. And there's the worry, what's going to happen when you charge your ring with this newly created lantern by Sinestro? And he's going, well, it kind of harnesses the power of fear, which the Guardians don't want, but I'm sure it'll be fine. But that's all we know by the end of this. There's no other sect out there of different types of lanterns. It is purely what we know is the Green Lanterns.

[00:28:01] And now there's a possibility of this yellow streak of fear going through this particular lantern. Yeah. And I mean, there's been some nice sort of chats with Sinestro. I liked how he was saying they think it's a weakness to have fear, but it can be used as a strong force for change, effectively.

[00:28:26] I mean, it's kind of saying it's the stick to the normal carrot. Oh, yeah. But I do kind of like how it all feeds into, I guess, John Stewart's journey of him sort of calling Guy Gardner, which we'll come to in a minute.

[00:28:50] But it feeds into that journey of trying to be a man who is fearless. But there is a fear that has imbued him. And it does take the recognition of his own fear in a number of ways. One, from Hal saying it to him. Yeah.

[00:29:13] But also, I think what's really good is that he chooses that compassion over fear when asked by Noah to kill him. I think this is like Noah's own fear of him realizing he's caught between these two worlds. I think Sinestro talks about it being, you know, nature versus nurture.

[00:29:35] There is the whole thing and that the nature will always win out irrespective of how much nurture is going on. I think. And I love that nobody just takes whatever Sinestro says at face value. Sinestro's here saying, you know, that, you know, show me a society who has no fear. I'll show you a society that's on the way to extinction. Yeah. He says Noah is definitely going to be overcome by his nature. Nurture won't won't save him.

[00:30:04] And John ignores that completely. That's not what he's hearing when he's talking to Noah. What he's hearing is kind of what happens to every single person when they're going through their teenage years. I could go out and I could go into the really bad side of my psyche and I could go for the worst thing possible ever. I could go and kill somebody. I could go and take over the world. Or I could go out and set myself up for life, have a great time and playing football and get married and have and have kids. Absolutely. Let's start a family. You know, it's kind of the choice that everybody can make.

[00:30:34] It is. Some to a lesser extent than others. This is the focus of this show is he's a very powerful being. He could do either of those two things. And John's willing to let him live his life whatever way he will live it out. But he is going to be standing over him watching to make sure he doesn't go down the bad path. Well, I think John shows compassion over killing him effectively. It's not necessarily even over fear.

[00:31:02] But that's because he sees the compassion in Noah. Not just in terms of is it just something that he's going through because he's a teenager. But, you know, he tries to protect his mom. He tries to save Hal. Like, you know, as we were saying before, he says, if there was any other way I could have saved you without showing up my identity, I would have done.

[00:31:25] And he is pretending to have murdered someone so that his mom doesn't get the blame for that. And you even hear some of the stories from Kerry where she's saying that the reason why he didn't choose a college to go to is because he wants more of the recruitment scouts out to maybe pick one of the members of his team to go on to college. Exactly.

[00:31:45] So I think it's that John sees in Noah's own choices, his own reasoning, that he is showing compassion above this programming that he's so fearful that he's just going to sort of do. Or what's how Sinestro has described. And, you know, he still has those thoughts.

[00:32:05] I mean, as you say, he talks about the suddenly these ideas around power, politics, going to Annapolis, getting into the armed forces, getting into the Secret Service and slowly but surely working his way up to the height of power, the presidency. And so he does have these thoughts. He doesn't know where they come from.

[00:32:31] But I like it's in the little choices that he makes that you have John Stewart recognizing the compassion shown by Noah and extends that to him by not killing him. And he does tell Kerry that. He says, he asked me to kill him. And I'm like, this is the weirdest sentence to say to anyone. And he says, I'm not going to.

[00:32:58] So I kind of really like that about John's sort of thing here is that even though he's gotten the fear sort of imbued into the lantern off the alien world, it's not, you know, that he's experienced it himself in the water. All of that.

[00:33:47] But absolutely. But absolutely. The decision that he makes at the end of the episode to be the lantern for Earth, not for this entire sector, not to be the entire Green Lantern connected to the Guardians. The choice he's made here is I presume because he's left a Manhunter alive on Earth and he's going to be there to ensure the Earth survives if this Manhunter decides to change its mind and go for power. Yeah. So I like that.

[00:34:13] You know, I think that's really interesting that he leans back on his old conditioning that came from his parents as well. Absolutely. I think that's a really sort of good point. I think also, you know, he doesn't turn Kerry in because he thinks that's not what Hal would have wanted. Absolutely.

[00:34:37] And so even though Kerry is like saying, look, let me watch the game and then I'll turn myself in. And he's like, no, there's no need. It's not what Hal would have wanted. All of that's just really, really good. And then we see, as you say, him breaking away from the Guardians and the Green Lantern Corps with his summoning of Guy Gardner again. Again, I really enjoyed Nathan Fillion's portrayal here.

[00:35:06] I still can't get over the hairdo. Oh, you can. I guess I can. Or maybe it's the gold tooth. I've been told I shouldn't be sort of focused on the gold tooth. I think the gold tooth is the least of Guy Gardner's worries. You can get another haircut. It's fine if you want. That's his haircut in the comics. A haircut is a lot easier to deal with than getting rid of his gold tooth.

[00:35:27] I do like when Guy Gardner comes and he's kind of like, listen, dude, stop beaming the lantern sort of symbol or signal, I should say. You know, this is just for like emergencies. And, you know, gradually gets told about, I think he sees the ring, but it's also John basically telling him, you know, I should say, there's a great line. I'll take the dirt. You take the starts.

[00:35:56] Have fun with this. Absolutely. And he's like, I don't think our paths will cross. In fact, I'm pretty sure they won't. And Guy's like, but I think they might do. He's like, no, they won't because we'll be doing completely different things for different reasons. Because I like how that kind of comes from Guy taking offense at John asking him to take a message back to the Guardians. And he's like, I'm not your errand boy.

[00:36:26] And he's like, no, but you are theirs. Just so really well written. I loved how it all played off. And ultimately, then this suggestion from John, again, real confidence, ready to take the ring like he wasn't back in episode five after the big battle in Rushville. Absolutely. This is on his terms. It's not somebody telling him this is what you have to do for us. You know, it's really, really different.

[00:36:53] One slight thing that may add some context in the comics. You may have talked about it earlier on in the season. I just can't remember. But one thing that might add some context. The entire sector here that Guy Gardner is in charge of as the Green Lantern of the sector is absolutely gigantic. Earth was just a speck of dust in a massive galaxy, in a massive sector. There was no real focus on it at all. Over time, as the comic books continued, it became a really important planet, of course, as it would, because all the writers are from Earth.

[00:37:24] But the idea of him going, I'm going to protect this individual planet and you protect the rest of the sector, that wouldn't really have mattered to the Guardians. There has been this battle on Earth with the Manhunters, but it's gone now. It's okay to take one planet out of the entire remit of Guy Gardner. It's not a big deal to have done that, at least in the original. Yeah, I mean, it's almost a bit like with Captain Marvel, really.

[00:37:48] How in Endgame, she's like, there's plenty of other planets and systems out there, not just Earth, that need help and have gone through what you have. And they don't have the heroes that it does. It's kind of that notion, which is a good one. It is also, like, he's very specific about the message that Guy needs to tell the Guardians.

[00:38:13] It's like, if they search their hearts, they'll find it in them to let me be. So immediately, I thought the suggestion that the Guardians are also Manhunters, potentially. Maybe, maybe. I think it might have just been because the other thing that was delivered by Jon Stewart, along with the Ring and the Lantern, was the heart of the Manhunter. So he was saying, look what I did for you. You can give me this one planet. Yeah, maybe. It could be that, yeah.

[00:38:43] I just thought, yeah, okay, grand. That makes more sense, actually. I just was like, is he suggesting that they could be Manhunters? Like, the secret is safe with me. It was that kind of thing. They created the Manhunters, we know that, and the only thing they couldn't create is the heart that was different from that original heart.

[00:39:03] So, yeah, it's kind of up for grabs, I guess, but it is to do with just leave me alone and look what it did for you, I think, is kind of what I took it as, anyway. Yeah, definitely. And also, I like then we have Hal kind of saying, don't be afraid to be afraid. Mm-hmm.

[00:39:23] And this idea of only fearless people being able to wield the ring, Hal is putting that to bed. Yeah. And I kind of like that little bit of advice to John from the Hallogram. Yes, this final conversation is so interesting with the Hallogram, I think. You know, he disappears. He allows John to go through the whole point of interrogating Noah and finding out all about what was happening with Noah.

[00:39:53] Not interrogating, but finding out what was going on with Noah. He allows him to go along and find out what's going on with Kerry, find out what happens, make his own decisions. And then suddenly he appears back up after he's talked to Guy. And John goes to him, hang on a second, where have you been? And he's like, oh, around, I've been in your subconscious, basically. So he's been hearing the whole thing through John's subconscious and didn't come out at any point to sway John's decision. And says to him, I believe you're going to be better at this than I am.

[00:40:21] He doesn't even give his opinion at the end as to whether John's made the right or wrong decision as far as the Hallogram's concerned. He's made the decision that John would make. And it's probably a better decision. And about Kerry as well, yeah. And about taking the ring and about, you know, all of those things that he's made. And he doesn't give any opinion at all. He just says, you're going to be better at this job than I was, which I really like. Also love a great little kind of joke there, but a lovely moment between the two guys when he asks John what were his last words.

[00:40:51] Because he kind of fizzled out, even though he heard absolutely every other word that was said. He asked John, what were my last words again? And he says, I love you. And he goes, I love you too, Junior. You know, nice little bro moment between the two and the three of them. Absolutely. Absolutely. And he says, don't be afraid to be afraid as well. Kind of because, you know, charge the ring. Like he's already previously told him, charge the ring. Because if you don't, you'll die. And that's back in with Sinestro on the alien world.

[00:41:20] And here again, the danger has passed. Yeah. It's just saying, don't be afraid to charge that ring because Hal will be reset effectively. Hal will be gone. Yeah. That's what I mean. The consciousness of the hologram goes. That was the warning from Sinestro. And the big thing that Sinestro is trying to stoke there, the fear is if the ring is taken by a new owner, a.k.a.

[00:41:46] Jon Stewart, and Hal is wiped from it, then he can never be brought back. And Sinestro put it on the table. I know how to bring him back as long as you don't wipe him from the ring. But I definitely think that was Sinestro actually saying, I have a way to bring Hal back in the future. And when Hal says, I was in your subconscious, I'll be here whenever you need me. I think there is still going to be a way if we do get a season two that they'll bring Hal back using whatever it is that Sinestro is suggesting. Yeah. I think there'll be some way to do it.

[00:42:17] I'm sure there will. I'm sure there will. Yeah. So I really like this kind of little bit of redemption for Hal as well, you know. From being that cantankerous sort of mentor and teacher, not really doing it to this, you know, finally sort of, you know, whether it's through his own mortality, his own death and through the hologram. George's seen more reasonable, certainly in episode one than the current Hal.

[00:42:46] There has been this redemption here. And I think Jon appreciates that. You can sense that has been the best training he's gotten from him. And it's meaningful to him as someone that has been in perpetual training by his parents since he was five years old. So, yeah, really, really good, I think. Sure. Should we get into our third point? Absolutely. Yep.

[00:43:16] For our powering point number three. Yeah. Hal's legacy. Effectively, a new oath here kind of sort of being channeled from don't be afraid to be afraid. And all this outpouring of teachings, you know, the non-judgmental side of it. But also he says, well, when Jon Stewart's saying, well, the oath doesn't really sit right for me.

[00:43:43] He he's like, well, create a new one. Yeah. You're already got you're only taking somebody else's ring. You've already got a lantern that's been created by Sinestro that you're going to be charging it with. You might as well just create a new oath that suits you. And you're only going to be in charge of Earth, not for the rest of the sector. You're not the only green lantern. Somebody else is doing that. So just just do your own your own oath. And it is. Yeah, it's a really interesting one where he's saying I'll embrace my fear. I'll do what's right. I'll choose this ring and I choose this fight in service to the lantern's light.

[00:44:12] You know, that's the difference between Jon's version of the oath is that he's saying he chooses this fight. He chooses to do this job. It's not the ring landed on my finger and I'm being forced into this position. I am choosing my own destiny. I'm choosing my own future. Very different for for Jon's version of the oath. It's interesting that we talked about that that of the first episode, that the oath is always the thing that is written on the comic book page. You kind of quickly read through it very quickly. Yeah, grand.

[00:44:41] OK, it's the oath that's been said a million times before. And throughout this series, sometimes it's mumbled. Sometimes it's said really quickly by by Hal when he's charging his ring, as we saw it earlier on. And here this oath is actually a much more clear version of the oath than we've heard the other version of it at all. This is the moment when Jon chooses his own oath is much more clear than the one that Hal has been using throughout the series. Yes, definitely.

[00:45:07] And I think the other thing as well that we have here is we see Jon Stewart giving Maggie the money in the end with a little note saying, I'm still sorry. Yeah. And we see him returning home to his brothers that he embraces as well as his dad is not in the care home, has been brought back home. I guess enough windows have been smashed to get him out of there. Yeah.

[00:45:35] And we see Earl at their home. He's there, yes. So we have Earl in a safe place, which is always good to know for a carnivorous plant. And we see his mom coming out of the dining room, sort of giving him a big hug and sort of tearing up as she's hugging. She's got her boy back.

[00:45:58] We know they've been estranged for 10 years, but equally just that stress, that commitment to their kids train him to be fearless. Everything that they've gone through, you know, it kind of took me back to him talking about that she was holding her breath. She's now allowed to breathe just with her son as her son.

[00:46:27] Nothing else matters in that sense. And he's a lantern as well. And he's a lantern. So that does help. The big girl has been accomplished too. Absolutely. Yeah, it's a big moment having the show end this way with John going back to his family. He is the lantern and Hal's gone. But what he's left behind is someone that's going to be even better at the job than he was, as he said. So, yeah, great little final moment for the episode.

[00:46:55] Any notes, anything else that you want to talk about that we haven't talked about in the episode or anything else you want to add as we close out the episode, John? I think my only note was kind of, you know, in terms of where the Green Lanterns go from here and maybe the wider DC universe is like, you know, as a sum up, really. It's just, you know, we have John Stewart, who's now Earth's independent contractor at Green Lantern, as we've been saying.

[00:47:19] We have Guy Gardner, who is absolutely back in the picture, but for the wider sector of 2814. Yeah, which means Superman Man of Tomorrow, where we'll see Guy Gardner next, will probably take place out in space. Yeah, absolutely. And interestingly, Sinestro is left on the alien world, but he remains there and is technically still a threat. Certainly if you've got a portal. Well, yeah.

[00:47:44] And either it's a portal directly in there or at least the boat to get across, because it does feel like he's still in a prison because of the water that surrounds this island infused with the fear. Yeah, he says he can't swim at it. It will just lead to madness and death. I'm just a castaway here. I know it was one of those moments where I was like, I shouldn't be thinking about this, but what does Sinestro eat? Because they've stuck him in this forge, in a place where he can't swim through the water.

[00:48:12] If he eats any food that lands there, I guess. There's nothing on the planet. It's also infused with the fear. So all the birds and fish have all killed each other as well. Yeah. But he remains alive, so he remains a possible threat. We have Noah, who is potentially, I've kind of, I had Dan as an enormously powerful unknown, effectively.

[00:48:39] Like, yes, I think John's judgment call with him is right, certainly in that moment. But when could it not potentially be right? And how would that work out? It could be loads of things with, you know, super villains as much as superheroes on the planet. So I like that. And you then have John with this fear-infused lantern. You know, what are the consequences?

[00:49:09] We do say that there are potential consequences for using that lantern from hell, from the hologram. So it's just a nice little touch, as you say. And there's no distinction around, it's not about the colors, it's about the fear infusion of the lantern.

[00:49:32] And being able to control it, you know, we do know of the Skircro in Gotham that uses fear. So it can be a very potent. Exactly what I said last week, that's really interesting. Yeah, very potent motivator, shall we say. It could, absolutely. So that was kind of my main sort of notes, was just that kind of little sum up, I think.

[00:49:57] Because I think there's loads here, and I'm really excited to see, I guess, the lanterns season two, or within the wider DC universe now. Yeah, I hope they return in the future. It was a bit of a missed opportunity in the Snyderverse to not have anything to do with the lanterns, when we had all the different members of the Justice League coming together back then.

[00:50:24] So I'm glad that in these early days of James Gunn and Peter Safran's universe, that we have a really great version of the lanterns out here. So I hope they're able to do something with it in the future, especially as we mentioned at the start, their ratings have been absolutely massive. So let's hope that they're able to capitalize on that a bit as well. A couple of notes from me. Just to mention the excellent tune they chose to end the episode on was Hero by Michael Kiyonuka, who I absolutely love. Yeah.

[00:50:53] Love his music, and it's a great tune to close everything out as John's finishing off all the little things that he has to finish off before he leaves. It's really good. Going back to the beginning of the episode, I love that we did go to 2016 and saw the aftermath of the Battle of Rushville. I love that we saw the water tower fall over just to indicate exactly where we were. I thought that was really cool. Interesting that we didn't see the body of Zoe when Kerry came to the motel. I don't know why. I know that John will obviously cut her heart out, so maybe it would have been a bit gruesome if we'd seen the body.

[00:51:22] It's his figured body. Yeah. But we got a glimpse of the leg. We did. We did. I think we could have seen a chest opened up. Maybe. I just thought it was interesting we didn't see that, but we saw the leg. The leg, we believe, is Maggie's father. It was his leg. That's what we think, anyway.

[00:51:42] Then Hal just commenting on the fact that he knows at that point that he will be convicted by any court in the land who wishes to accuse him of reckless endangerment. And there will be no pushback by the Guardians, which solves their problem nice and neatly. I thought that was interesting. And then I loved that we had him come back to town in 2026 and we saw everything going on. I loved that dinner in the pizzeria where everybody in town is staring at the two of them.

[00:52:09] Yes, I called it the garlic bread announcement. I did like that, actually. Everybody just staring at him through gritted teeth and Kerry standing up to tell everybody, look, he's a hero in most other places around the globe. Here he is a hated man, but I think he's paid his dues. He's come here. He deserves peace, even if you don't like him, effectively. Yeah, someone obviously wasn't there for that because somebody set fire to his house. It wasn't Noah and it wasn't Kerry.

[00:52:39] So who was set fire to his house? It was Billy. Do you think Billy? It could have been. Noah's dad. Do you think he just, you know, since his mom and his dad basically were killed by him or his dad and his stepmom, sorry, were killed by the actions of Hal. Maybe he's the one that blew up the house. But weird to have Jason Ritter in that role of Noah's dad and Kerry's husband and only have him in the show for about two or three scenes. Yeah, absolutely. Very little screen time, really. Yeah.

[00:53:09] A couple of scenes. They're all quite important scenes, but I just thought it was odd to have an actor so well known to be only in the show a small amount. And the last thing I just want to mention about that time we had the flashback to John is just his mention that the townspeople hate him because they left the message of leave town a-hole on his lawn, done in their own human manure, which takes time. You probably could have left the a-hole off the end of that sentence and it still would have made the point.

[00:53:36] And Kerry just saying maybe a-hole was the point to him. That was really good. Right. Right. That's it. So that last point, Kerry saying she ran away from a monster to get here in Gotham. Clayface is coming out at the end of the month. Clayface is in Gotham. I think it's a connection that's confirmed right there that Kerry's saying she ran away from Clayface to go to Rushville. No, probably not. Okay. Clayface is a monster. Yeah, he certainly is. Or will he?

[00:54:06] Well, by the end of the movie, we'll find that he isn't a monster at all. He's just the friends you made along the way. Yes. It'd be interesting if it was a tie-in. I'm not entirely sure. It's not going to be a tie-in. I was just making a joke. Grant. Okay. I sometimes don't know whether you're joking or being serious. 21 years together and you still don't know. No. That makes it fun, doesn't it? No. All right. With that, John, any final thoughts on the episode? What's your final rating for the final episode? I really enjoyed this.

[00:54:34] There was a great ending, wrapping everything up. I gave this five post-coital crocodile boots out of five. I noticed that as well. Yes, the image of Hal on his bed after a bit of nookie with Perry, still in his boots. Nice. Wow. What a man. What a man. You can keep the boots on. Yeah, absolutely. Did she wear her sheriff's hat? I'm sure she did. I'm sure she did.

[00:55:01] But yeah, I really enjoyed how this sort of laid it out. I loved the intricacies primarily of Kerry Kane, Noah and their family, how that was interwoven with Sinestro on another alien world. I like some of the tantalizing stuff Sinestro dropped about the possibility of bringing Hal back to life, whether that's possible anymore now that John Stewart has charged his ring.

[00:55:32] But also, I love that John Stewart takes and grasps hold of what his mum and dad have been telling him was his destiny to become the Green Lantern. But as I say, it's done on his terms. It's not about being the errand boy for the Guardians. It is. I'm protecting Earth. Earth is my sector.

[00:55:57] And I just think there's some real tantalizing stuff with the fear-infused lantern, as I was saying. But yeah, I just really enjoyed how this played out and covered everything off so comprehensively. Absolutely. And we didn't even talk about the biggest decision that happened in the episode. Noah is going to the University of Nebraska for the Cornhuskers to play for the Huskers. That is true. Yeah. The most important thing.

[00:56:24] I must say, I really enjoyed that because I just burst out laughing because the guy came over and did his feel about, oh, you're not wearing this. Do you want to wear the hat? Sort of offering him the place, the sports scholarship and all that at the university. And he puts it on and his big hair is just like sticking out at the side. And I just thought, that's really realistic that, you know, after a sweaty sort of four

[00:56:54] hours of doing American football, that his hair would be all over the place coming in and out of the protective helmet. And he puts the thing on. He's just got this mad hair. I thought it was really cool. But yeah, for me, I really enjoyed this five post-coital crocodile boots out of five for me. Fantastic. Fantastic. Woo! That's been an epic season of TV, definitely. And a big final score for that final episode as well.

[00:57:22] John, I think we need to go to the pub and have a drink. I think we do. Indeed. Yes. Fellow quizzers, fellow lanterns, welcome back to the Rushville Redneck Bar Quiz. It is the final episode. So we're on to question eight of the bar quiz, which is what is the name of the beer that Kerry Kane brings Hal when he leaves prison in 2026? I like it. See, we are ready for a beer.

[00:57:51] We certainly are. Do you want to give the question more time, John? Sure. What is the name of the beer that Kerry Kane brings Hal when he leaves prison in 2026? Fantastic. That's the final question of eight. Put all of your correct answers together and email them to us as soon as possible to feedback at tvpodcastindustries.com and you can be in with a chance of getting your hands on some lanterns goodies if you're pulled out of the virtual hat in our finale wrap-up episode. As we mentioned, we're recording a little bit early this week.

[00:58:20] So if you didn't get the chance to get your feedback in, include some feedback on the season as well to that email address or pop on over to our Facebook group at facebook.com slash groups slash tvpodcastindustries. You can leave thoughts on the spoiler post over there or pop an hour to discord, the details of which are in the show notes for this episode. And leave your thoughts on the finale post there. Yes, but we do have some feedback in already. First up, some email feedback from Coffee and Vodka who says,

[00:58:49] Greetings fellow old yellow defenders. Usually I need a couple of days to make into these episodes before knowing what to say. Still do, but with an expected early recording, guess I'll have to wing it. Proper closure all the way around with just enough left over, Sinestro in Yellow Lantern Land, Noah's future a mystery. Should season two be a thing? Nice to see that John can finally fly, but doesn't nearly balance out the loss of Earl.

[00:59:17] His final moment is a dream haunter, with everyone else ending just where they should, calling this episode and season a well-landed winner. Still a tamer closer than expected, until recalling this wasn't Marvel property. Four and a half Hal passes, Noah's arcs, and architectural ringmasters out of five. Peace and take care, Coffee and Vodka. P.S. Never mind, just remembered that Earl was around post-Hal's icing.

[00:59:46] Really have to work on that whole object permanence thing. Still quite the traumatic puppet performance. Great stuff, thanks Coffee and Vodka. Yes, he was safe, anyway, by the end of this episode, back with the Stuarts, so that he could munch on passers-by as they go into the dining room. Yeah, and chronologically, I think we saw John Stewart saw Earl after Hal was dead. Yes, he did. He saw him in the park. So he took him back.

[01:00:15] And then took him back to his folks' house. So now we know how he was taken care of at the end. I did see someone this morning after watching the finale episode going, right, now who's going to re-edit the whole season into the chronological order from the first moment to the last moment in 2026? Because they couldn't get their head around all of the movements back and forth from two through time. Some people aren't very good at that. I think it did add something to the show. I loved that the mystery was there throughout. If we'd seen that moment with Hal getting killed in the first episode,

[01:00:45] well, there's no mystery there. Absolutely. Yeah, definitely. Bit of fun. Bit of fun. Great stuff. And thanks so much, Coffee and Vodka. Thanks so much for your thoughts throughout the season so far. And make sure if you want to get your thoughts in for the wrap-up, send them in to us. Yes, certainly you'll have had a few more days to bake those in as well. Exactly. Excellent stuff. Thanks, Coffee and Vodka, for your feedback as always. Over on Facebook, we also got some feedback from Angie R, what I was going to say is this series was some fantastic television.

[01:01:15] I really enjoyed the true detective style of the show, where the murder mystery was intertwined with larger events and some of the characters' backstories. Kudos as well to those involved and to the actors who gave really great performances. I honestly had little interest in the Green Lantern character prior to this and almost didn't watch it. So glad I did. Thanks again for another great podcast. Thanks, Angie. Thanks for joining us for this podcast.

[01:01:44] And it's great that you did watch it. I mean, a bit like yourself. I wouldn't say I was massively interested. I didn't quite know how this was going to go, what it was going to be like. But I'm very pleased that I did. I thought, really, like yourself, some great performances, great acting, great writing. And I just loved the whole mystery style of it as well. Yeah. And I'm hoping that that surprise will continue into Vision Quest as well.

[01:02:14] Yeah, let's hope so. Let's hope so. Yeah. I wasn't really sold on doing Lanterns until I heard the people behind it and seeing Chris Mundy, who did Ozark, which we absolutely loved, and did some True Detective as well, which we really enjoyed. It's great to see his fingerprints all over this. Stamil Lindelof, of course, from Watchmen, who we really enjoyed as well. So it's great to see those people behind it. And then the people in front of the screen as well. Aaron Pierre saying that if there's 17 seasons of the show,

[01:02:40] he will be here turning up every week to film episodes of Lanterns. So another great member of the DC Universe as well. So, yeah, very excited, very happy to see what they delivered with the show. So thanks so much, Angie, for your feedback. Yes, thanks, Angie. Our last piece of feedback for this episode comes in from Paul Lee. Over on Discord, he said, This was possibly the most intense season-ender for a superhero show without a physical fight at the end. As the official podcast with the three main executives of the show talked about,

[01:03:10] this season was about whether or not we can overcome our programming, training, slash indoctrination, and also commentary on why space cops have the same problems as dirt cops. And something from the episode 7 behind-the-scenes short, Daniel Lindelof explicitly stated that Zoe was on Antan's planet because there was some planetary war with lots of genocide happening. So her solution was to kill all of them. This was presumably after the Guardians disabled all the other Manhunters, but it could also have been the final straw. My question from all the way back to episode 4 is,

[01:03:38] what part of the Manhunter programming justified a total genocide for a planet undergoing local genocide? The fact that Lindelof brought it up suggests that this was discussed in the writers' room and future potential seasons could hone in on Noah trying to understand or deal with his programming. Also, love the new oath. They've taken only two of the season's main characters off the board, leaving Sinestro and Noah on the board for future shenanigans. And did you clock that Hal's backpack and presumably the other end of the Einstein-Rosen bridge

[01:04:08] are back in the fortress of storage in Rushville? Hmm. Yes, indeed. Very good, Paul. Yeah, thanks, Paul. Yeah, that's true. The old portal there is back in the fortress of storage. So hopefully we get that outing again with the fortress of storage. Such a great concept. In terms of the genocide thing, yeah, no, that's really interesting.

[01:04:36] It's interesting hearing sort of Damon Lindelof talk around sort of the context of Zoe and Atan because, yeah, I mean, that's not something – it's in a sense only something that was briefly mentioned to the audience but which Jon Stewart saw all the way through this genocide and planetary war. So really interesting.

[01:05:05] I guess the programming for Manhunter, yeah, I'm not entirely sure maybe what that is but possibly just simply the Manhunter was no longer able to fulfill sort of dominant power on that planet because maybe the local genocide that was happening between the different factions was too ingrained, too embedded, or part of their culture. It was always like that.

[01:05:35] And so that was the route that Zoe took. But, yeah, I think the fact that if, you know, they were talking about the episodes specifically but also the season, talking about overcoming programming and training and indoctrination, then equally Antan's planet wasn't able to overcome them and that's how it was left.

[01:06:02] Maybe Zoe saw us as a weakness or something like that. But all that is just part of their programming is to kill and gain power. Well, yeah, but I think to the point that you're making there, Paul, that if Zoe had chosen to do a planetary-wide genocide and the Guardians went, hang on a second, we can't leave all of these Manhunters out in the galaxy and the universe on their own. We're going to have to slaughter them all. We're going to have to kill all of the Manhunters.

[01:06:31] Maybe it was the straw that broke the camel's back. Maybe she was doing the genocide. Maybe the Guardians go, ooh, I think we've chosen the wrong species or wrong creatures to go out and do this. We need to create the lanterns to have some decision-making here, decision-making that isn't genocide of an entire planet. Good stuff. But again, there's loads of stuff that we can find out about this over 70 years of history with the Green Lanterns.

[01:06:56] And this is just a story cobbled together from loads of those bits and pieces. So yeah, be really intrigued to see what could happen in the future with these characters particularly. Yeah, definitely. Great stuff. Thanks, Paul. Absolutely. Thanks, Paul. And thanks, everybody, for your feedback. Keep sending it in to us. We will be back with our wrap-up podcast on lanterns and our wrap-up of the pub quiz in about a week's time. Yes. And thank you as well for joining us.

[01:07:25] Stay subscribed to the podcast. Certainly, if you enjoy what you hear, you can share it with your friends and family because sharing the podcast is, of course, sharing the love. Absolutely. We will also be back very soon, within about a week or two, with the next installment from the Marvel Cinematic Universe over on Disney+,

[01:07:49] with Vision Quest, which is part of the trilogy of TV shows from Marvel. I started off with WandaVision as well as then Agatha all along. So you can check them out over on our main feed as well. But looking forward to seeing what Vision Quest will throw up as well. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. And thanks so much to everybody who's been listening on to Lanterns. It's been a big surprise of a show

[01:08:18] and great fun to chat about a different side of a comic book universe. Thanks to everybody for your support, all of you who've been sending their feedback to us, all of you who've been sharing the podcast, and those of you that support us over on our Patreon group, particularly Dodie, who joined us this month as a new supporter of Patreon. Excellent. Lovely. Welcome on board, Dodie. Great to get your support. Absolutely. Thanks so much for joining us. Talk to you again next time. Yeah, thanks so much, fellow Lanterns. Bye for now. But remember, keep watching, keep listening,

[01:08:48] and of course, keep shining that lantern. Bye. Bye.