Pennyworth Season 3 Episodes 10 "Highland Wedding" on TV Podcast Industries

[00:00:00] This is the Pennyworth podcast on TV Podcast Industries and we're here to talk about the

[00:00:04] finale of season 3 of Pennyworth Highland Wedding.

[00:00:30] Welcome back fellow governors and Gothamites, we're here talking about Pennyworth season

[00:01:00] 3 episode 10 the finale of the third season of Pennyworth Highland Wedding. I'm one of your hosts Derek

[00:01:05] Hello there fellow governors and fellow Gothamites. I am one of your other hosts John

[00:01:10] What an episode. Oh wow, I didn't stop laughing for a lot of it. It was great fun.

[00:01:16] Yeah, it was really good fun. Yeah, just a great way to wrap out the season

[00:01:22] the way they have and no wonder because it is written by Bruno Heller the show winner of the show

[00:01:27] the guiding hand behind Gotham the guiding hand behind the first three seasons of Pennyworth as

[00:01:31] well. So no wonder this is all of his sensibilities put into one episode. Definitely and we know

[00:01:37] there's a writer's room of course so we know that all of the team had a hand in there in all

[00:01:41] the crafting of the series so far but there's something about the sensibility of the show

[00:01:46] that is on full display in this finale episode. Definitely, definitely and I mean

[00:01:51] yeah it really harked back to just the great visual comedy and the writing just the weird

[00:02:00] outlandish moments as well. It was just so so good so yeah I really enjoyed this final episode.

[00:02:07] Absolutely absolutely a bit of sadness though of course when we get to the end of a season

[00:02:10] we are at the end of Pennyworth season three. First time Pennyworth's been on

[00:02:14] HBO Max as well all episodes available over there as of this year along with all episodes

[00:02:19] of Gotham but it was only commissioned for this one season for HBO Max. It was actually originally

[00:02:25] commissioned for Epix and moved to HBO Max so we don't know about the future of the show whether

[00:02:29] there will be a fourth season or whether the story will continue. I do like how they

[00:02:33] capped it off so it's still possible. Yeah absolutely. There could be a future here we

[00:02:38] haven't closed out any of the story lines and then a time jump 20 years into the future

[00:02:42] to have older Alfred with young Bruce Wayne we haven't done any of that so

[00:02:46] there are still stories to tell if they wish to tell them. Yeah who knows. Also though a big thank you

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[00:03:51] feed on tv podcast industries. Yeah good stuff I think it's about time that we get into our

[00:03:57] spoiler filled chit chat. Absolutely. Derek take it away who did what when were and how. Well I

[00:04:06] already mentioned the episodes written by Bruno Heller showrunner of Pennyworth and Gotham

[00:04:10] and loads of other stuff he did the mentalist as well I believe his next big project is heading

[00:04:14] off to the land of Westeros. Interesting. Yeah for one of the prequel series of Game of Thrones

[00:04:19] I'm not sure of the status of it was announced with him as as lead showrunner but haven't heard

[00:04:25] much but of course the focus of the PR was on House of the Dragon the first prequel series so

[00:04:31] we will see where that goes to. Well if there is any show where I could see someone beating

[00:04:36] someone else with a limb from a dismembered body then I think it's Game of Thrones to be honest.

[00:04:43] Yeah yeah just like Pennyworth in addition to 10. Absolutely absolutely the director of this episode

[00:04:49] was Rob Bailey we've talked about Rob Bailey a lot he this is the 10th episode of Pennyworth

[00:04:54] so he's directed and he directed the penultimate episode of season one the last two episodes

[00:04:57] of season two and once again last two episodes of season three as well and he directed 11

[00:05:01] episodes of Gotham so just one shy of the same number of episodes for Pennyworth but of course

[00:05:06] Gotham round for a couple more seasons Gotham round for two more seasons than that than Pennyworth

[00:05:09] has so far. Yes. So great to have Rob on board great to have these alumni here for this final

[00:05:14] episode of season three as well and John do you want to tell us what they gave us with your

[00:05:18] snops as for the finale of Pennyworth season three Highland Wedding. Sure across merry old

[00:05:24] London town Mary Cow Dairies deliver milk laced with the hallucinogen lullaby to the

[00:05:30] unsuspecting tea drinking population. Francis Fuchs is basking in the glow of his plan coming to

[00:05:37] fruition but he realises that his loving followers have quickly become an angry mob as he is beaten

[00:05:43] to death. Witnessing the murder and learning of the tainted milk Dave Boy and Sally head to the

[00:05:50] Queen Anne's Revenge to warn all the patrons of the impending danger and not to drink the

[00:05:56] tea. Meanwhile Lucius gets an SOS out of level seven and Alfie and Martha break in to save them

[00:06:04] but Lucius can't leave without saving Bet and the rest of the Pwe's while locking General

[00:06:09] Thursday and his army in the bunker. When Alfie sees the carnage caused by the infected Londoners

[00:06:16] he jumps in his car grabs his reluctant girlfriend Sandra heads to the Queen Anne's Revenge

[00:06:22] with everyone else to arm themselves have a nice cold pint and wait for this to all blow over.

[00:06:28] Without knowledge of the outside world General Thursday calls Prime Minister Aziz for assistance

[00:06:33] but the Prime Minister has been affected by lullaby and believes Thursday is starting a coup.

[00:06:40] While the two argue and their anger escalates Alfie declares his love for Sandra and she

[00:06:45] agrees to marry him. As tensions get worse and worse between General Thursday and the Prime

[00:06:50] Minister Alfie gets everyone from the Queen Anne's Revenge on a London bus and picks up his mum

[00:06:56] and the wanes to take them out of the city. With everyone gathered to witness Alfie and

[00:07:02] Sandra's wedding their vows are rudely interrupted as a bomb ordered by General Thursday is dropped

[00:07:09] on number 10 Downing Street just as Prime Minister Aziz wakes from his hallucination.

[00:07:16] Oh yes it doesn't sound as funny as the episode actually was when you're talking about bombs

[00:07:22] landing on number 10 Downing Street and violence going on all across the city but

[00:07:26] lots of great comedy moments throughout this episode. Definitely definitely but shall we get

[00:07:32] on to our first point from the episode. Yeah. Saving Lucius and the Pwe's.

[00:07:40] Let's start out there as Lucius is stuck in level seven after effectively releasing all the Pwe's

[00:07:48] from their imprisonment and they've been battling with the army of General Thursday below ground

[00:07:54] they have no way out because they're all still trapped in level seven. So I love this kind of

[00:08:00] showing of Lucius' ability to create gadgets out of anything the kind of MacGyvering of a

[00:08:05] phone where he makes the phone call and is able to get in contact with Mr. Chadley who's sitting

[00:08:10] in his office gets the phone call smashes his bottle of milk thankfully so he doesn't get

[00:08:16] caught by the hallucinogens but gets this SOS message out which is all he gets out is SOS

[00:08:23] level seven and that it's Lucius here but that's enough for Chadley to piece it all

[00:08:27] together and call in Alfie and Martha to go and help him out. Yeah I loved how

[00:08:36] efficient all of this was because I was thinking how is this all going to play out?

[00:08:41] But ultimately it is a citizen's arrest of level seven by Martha and Alfie and

[00:08:49] General Thursday acquiesces quite easily here. Not without a lot of huffing and puffing and

[00:08:55] dare I say blowing the house down kind of noises coming from General Thursday. I mean certainly

[00:09:01] doesn't take it easily but I love how really they just manage to infiltrate into this bunker

[00:09:12] because it's the same entrance as level six. And of course there's no level seven button to press

[00:09:19] like there is for Lucius to get to his normal office on a regular working day but instead

[00:09:25] they need to use the guards eye as the identification to get the lift to open up access for going

[00:09:37] down to level seven. Yeah really like the comedy moment with Martha revealing her pass only gets

[00:09:42] it to level six and then she asks the guard does he have access to level seven? Yes he does

[00:09:46] okay Alfie take a break so Innie comes inside to be pressed against the eye scanner. Very good

[00:09:52] stuff again yeah really enjoyed that but yes we get Lucius obviously really happy that he's

[00:10:00] that he's made contact with the outside world and that he's going to be freed but

[00:10:03] he needs to do a few things before he leaves here he needs to get Bet free first,

[00:10:07] Bet reunites with everybody again another great moment with her. It's a long story

[00:10:11] first off I killed John Salt it's a long story for another time. Stop you there let's go

[00:10:16] and then they get the rest of the PWEs to come and join up with them and as Lucius seems to enact

[00:10:22] this really complicated plan for keeping Thursday and his men underground I love it and it's because

[00:10:28] Lucius is so competent as his work what he's done is he's locked them in on a timer for two

[00:10:34] hours in a cell once they get out of that cell they'll have access to all the amenities

[00:10:38] they can go to the bathroom they have food they're able to maybe make contact with the outside world

[00:10:43] but they can't get out to the outside world for a few days which will allow them to calm down

[00:10:47] and allow the PWEs to get away so they can't be captured again so I like the planning of all that

[00:10:52] and if they do try and break any of the defenses which were in the plans from

[00:10:56] general Thursday in the first place then the entire place will explode so I like that

[00:11:01] it's all jerry-rigged if somebody tries to get in from the outside world as well

[00:11:05] if he calls on external troops to come and get them out the place will explode so

[00:11:09] I like that this is all playing on the knowledge of Lucius and he has this kind of three-step

[00:11:14] plan to make sure they can't get out into the world to stop him and his PWEs very smart man

[00:11:19] that Lucius absolutely general Thursday is well and truly trapped down here and of course

[00:11:24] you know that later on really sets him off you know he's not in a good mood

[00:11:30] anyway because of this he's lost his PWEs but also because Martha and Alfie are so connected

[00:11:38] with Prime Minister Aziz he thinks that this is a play by Aziz into his own territory that he has

[00:11:48] absolute control executive control over level seven and this really then kicks off later for the

[00:11:58] I guess the telephone battle between Thursday and the Prime Minister yeah yeah we'll talk about

[00:12:04] the PM versus general Thursday battle because it's another major plot point of the episode but just

[00:12:11] to kind of close out on what's happening with Lucius and the PWEs I love that they have this kind

[00:12:15] of moment with them where they're all brought to the Queen Anne's Revenge they team up with

[00:12:20] Dave Boy and Sally there blocking into the Queen Anne's Revenge there's lots of great

[00:12:25] fun moments with them we particularly get to know one of the big standouts here is Kevin the

[00:12:30] Blue Raven we saw him as John Saltz version of Captain Blighty very nice friendly chap

[00:12:38] singing karaoke with the rest of the crew as they all get a bit drunk I think that's probably

[00:12:41] because they've replaced the usual tea drinking of the of the team with drinking beer from

[00:12:47] behind the bar I'm sure that is the rational explanation definitely but certainly for me

[00:12:53] I just thought this was so wonderfully weird but I guess it's kind of almost that

[00:12:57] bunker mentality end of days where it's like well if i'm going to go down i'm going to go

[00:13:02] down and join myself absolutely why not have a real survive yeah why not have an ironic

[00:13:09] karaoke performance from one of the PWEs and who did also choose his own you know modified

[00:13:17] words for this appropriate for his blueness he absolutely did yes sir the line he changed

[00:13:22] to us and I will survive and you see me somebody blue just just as Alfie interrupts them so you

[00:13:29] see me somebody blue very good yes exactly like it pretty hell well this was really good

[00:13:34] I mean there was so much at the Queen's Anne the Queen Anne's revenge because you know first

[00:13:41] firstly we see Chandler they're taking that phone call from Lucius with Peggy

[00:13:48] Peggy Sykes looking on and trying not to wake the baby trying not to wake the baby but

[00:13:53] looking very severe yes and so very put upon again we have Sally and Dave showing up

[00:14:03] in an absolute Tis was because they've just seen Francis Fuchs being beaten to death by his

[00:14:11] own creation which was a great moment and again another bit of the episode where I was

[00:14:17] thinking well is he gonna kind of persist really is he you know kind of gonna melt into the

[00:14:22] background he might be for another season but no he's absolutely taken out by his

[00:14:28] angry mob lullaby infused angry mob so um but at least in that moment that's when they realize

[00:14:39] what's happened here is the Mary cow dairies that have been responsible for this drip feed of

[00:14:48] the lullaby drug to the wider population and of course you see everything starting to break

[00:14:54] down with angry mobs all over London yes and certainly as Lucius the PWE's Martha and

[00:15:05] Alfie managed to get from level seven they realized something is slightly amiss

[00:15:14] top side definitely for sure I think I think my favorite of them is the news reporter who's

[00:15:18] trying to announce it on the news and then gets attacked by her boom operator running out onto

[00:15:22] the screen it's a great great stuff in there but that kind of separates the group Martha

[00:15:27] realizes that something's going on here she needs to get back to the Wayne household

[00:15:30] protect her family as Alfie runs off to go collect his girlfriend who of course

[00:15:34] is not his girlfriend they're broken up exactly there's massive shades as we alluded to in the

[00:15:39] synopsis there massive shades of Shaun of the Dead in here if you haven't seen that movie definitely

[00:15:43] go watch it but there's definitely a lot of nods to that wonderful Shaun of the Dead

[00:15:51] with the zombie zombified population who are all aggressively trying to kill people around them

[00:15:57] like the zombies and Shaun of the Dead Alfie going to find the girlfriend that broke up with

[00:16:02] them just like Shaun did with his girlfriend him climbing up the outside of the building to get

[00:16:06] inside to her and very similar and of course holding up in the Queen's Queen Anne's Revenge

[00:16:11] is just like going to the Winchester exactly exactly as soon as you kind of mentioned it

[00:16:18] it was like absolutely can see the parallels with Shaun of the Dead here and again it was

[00:16:24] like really good and just the visual comedy the comedy here was absolutely I think some of the best

[00:16:35] throughout this season and as a with the off-the-wall karaoke being done I think as well just that

[00:16:42] sense of all the PWE's coming together as well we had a fantastic moment as the angry mob start

[00:16:50] encroaching on the defences that they've put around the Queen Anne's Revenge where Bet takes one of them

[00:16:58] out by ripping off his arm and beating him with it and it's just kind of so matter of factly done

[00:17:06] that it was it was just a great scene to see the reuniting of Bet with Peggy and Peggy was

[00:17:17] like you know effectively saying I can't believe you left a baby with me and if you hadn't returned

[00:17:25] you know I would have been really annoyed. Absolutely she's like she's saying I knew you

[00:17:30] weren't dead because you wouldn't leave a baby with me and Peggy's going well I was technically

[00:17:35] dead and I did leave a baby with you but I wouldn't normally do something like that yeah really

[00:17:39] really good moments with the two of them reuniting and of course when you have this

[00:17:44] in the final episode when you have you know these characters coming back and having moments

[00:17:47] together like this we see everybody on screen from the series every major character who's been

[00:17:52] an influence on the story this season gets a moment where they come on screen we even have

[00:17:56] Roger turning up at the Queen Anne's Revenge looking for his now girlfriend Mrs. P since he

[00:18:02] can't find her at home he goes to the pub to catch her so we know he's safe as well there's

[00:18:06] nobody left out as far as I could tell there's nobody really left out from the story that

[00:18:10] doesn't appear in this episode. Because Mrs. P is with the Wains I do love the fact that as well

[00:18:16] the Wains narrowly escape ingesting the lullaby drug by just not wanting tea after all the events

[00:18:25] of the previous episode with the kidnapping the extortion and so on and they just

[00:18:30] know you know need sleep or need something a bit stronger than tea yeah and you don't normally

[00:18:36] see that really especially in a show like this kind of moves on a couple of days after

[00:18:40] big events but here just even seeing Mrs. P curled up on the chair after all she's been through where

[00:18:46] she's like I could sleep for days but yes this whole tension that's there when Gladys comes up with

[00:18:51] the tray full of tea and with milk on the side and you're going uh-oh which one of them is

[00:18:55] going to drink but I like that it leads into that argument again with Thomas and Martha as to

[00:19:00] why she feels she has to save London has to save Lucius why should they be doing that when

[00:19:05] they just had a massively traumatic experience with their daughter kidnapped and it's a

[00:19:09] really good argument and I like that eventually even though Martha goes off to save Lucius she comes

[00:19:15] back they have the discussion again and she says we should save London I have no idea how to do it

[00:19:21] maybe we should just leave kind of around the same place by the end of it also that Gladys the

[00:19:27] housekeeper is effectively tied to the chair because she drank all the tea because they

[00:19:33] hadn't because they didn't touch a drop of it and so poor Gladys is tied up with nowhere to release

[00:19:40] her anger but at least we do know it was off eventually as with Dave Boyd yes I liked Samantha

[00:19:48] being particularly tickled by the fact that Mrs. P had to sit on Gladys to keep her down before

[00:19:54] she killed anybody in the house I thought that was great for myself but yes the escape

[00:19:59] that they have from the Queen Anne's Revenge is getting on a London bus to take you where you want

[00:20:04] to go right it's the 70s the bus service runs really well so um so Alfie commandeers the uh the

[00:20:10] London bus that's parked outside after after the kill a fair few of the attackers oh definitely

[00:20:15] yeah off they go and of course after he has made up with Sandra as well so I mean importantly

[00:20:22] she actually does come with Alfie grudgingly to the Queen Anne's Revenge yes she's not entirely

[00:20:29] bought in but she sees him there defending all the people and hold up in the Queen Anne's Revenge

[00:20:37] and you know something then they cross eyes and it gives him the courage to go and in acts

[00:20:45] effectively the advice that his mum gave him in the previous episode and this seems to have the

[00:20:53] desired effect for for the both of them it still seems like I mean you know I'm not going to

[00:21:00] split hers here although maybe technically I am but you know it's very much they certainly draw

[00:21:07] the line in the sand very quickly and then decide to get married um but that doesn't matter I'm just

[00:21:16] saying yeah you know the upshot of it is is that they profess their love and the marriage will

[00:21:25] will go ahead or will it I guess well we did have that pause moment before when he's saving Sandra

[00:21:33] and Sandra tells them you know unless you're going to be honest with me unless you're going

[00:21:36] to tell me one true honest thing we can't ever be together and I can't trust you in anything other than

[00:21:42] keeping me safe from attackers in which she tends to fall into because of things Alfie's done for the

[00:21:48] most part she tends to be a target quite a lot because she's kind of within Alfie's sphere let's

[00:21:55] say yes um so he does tell the truth he does say that he slept with somebody else since the last

[00:21:59] time they were together with Zara and so he does tell her the truth that's kind of the

[00:22:03] starting point but because he is standing in front of a full room of people declaring his love for

[00:22:08] Sandra which is what she wants she wants him to say I love you and I want to spend the rest of my

[00:22:12] life with you not I got you pregnant I'm going to put a ring on your finger because it's the

[00:22:17] right thing to do yeah and he does all of that he doesn't really want a kid exactly he genuinely

[00:22:22] says they they want to spend the rest of their lives together but as you alluded to we do

[00:22:26] have the wedding out in the cops out in the uh out in the countryside uh overlooking London

[00:22:31] where Lucius is officiating um Sandra says her vests she says I do she says that uh that she will be

[00:22:38] she'll be married to Alfie but the bomb that goes off uh does come in just before Alfie says

[00:22:43] his I do which I thought was quite a quite a good choice there if you're gonna keep it open

[00:22:49] and Alfie's never been married um it's a good way to do it as the bomb goes off isn't it

[00:22:53] it certainly is it was very good I love that it happened just there right there keep the mystery

[00:23:00] keep the suspense did he didn't he was he wasn't he married um yeah loved loved that timing of uh

[00:23:10] the attack on number 10 yeah absolutely uh is that two seasons we've had now that have ended

[00:23:15] with um with characters getting married we've had we had Martin Thomas that ended uh one of the

[00:23:19] seasons getting married uh and now this season ending with uh with another another wedding

[00:23:23] if they get a season four maybe it will be mrs. pian roger oh maybe maybe or Dave Boyne sally

[00:23:30] all they've got another two seasons in there you go there you go I was quite impressed that they had

[00:23:36] a bit of a bit of some moments with Dave Boyne kind of taking more of a leadership role because

[00:23:41] we had that whole conversation with sally and uh and Dave Boyne before where he feels like he's

[00:23:46] just there to follow up on whatever Alfie tells him to do yeah he's the the muscle effectively

[00:23:50] um where Alfie aims him at somebody and uh and Dave beats him or shoots him um but

[00:23:57] a couple episodes ago we had him solving the mystery effectively now this episode he takes

[00:24:01] the leadership role of getting everybody to the pub and uh and effectively defending everybody

[00:24:06] yeah while they're there so I think that is leading to Dave Boyne breaking away from Alfie

[00:24:11] we know he doesn't pay a part in his life in the future so um apart from in the comic books

[00:24:16] he has got a little uh a little um guest role in the penny worth comic books that came out

[00:24:22] but I wonder if this is if this is setting up something in the next season where Alfie and Dave

[00:24:27] Boyne split apart and Dave Boyne goes off on his own and there's always been that suggestion as well

[00:24:32] liking Gotham of Alfred's past coming back not necessarily to haunt him but you know popping

[00:24:41] its head above the parapet and liking Gotham with the return of one of his um

[00:24:47] comrades from the army we've seen that in the comics as well not just on the penny worth comics

[00:24:53] that really have accompanied this this show to some extent but in some of the year one

[00:25:01] comics as well I think Batman year one alludes to his past um Alfred's past as well but yes

[00:25:08] that's the nice side of the ending let's say when we get through to uh to the wedding of

[00:25:13] of Alfie and Sam yeah I guess it was like a big fireworks but let's talk about the other more

[00:25:18] political side of what's going on uh a final point really is uh the p.m versus general Thursday

[00:25:25] um because we've had the politics going on in the background throughout the season they really

[00:25:30] have not focused on this has been the story of Alfie who's not very political it has to be

[00:25:35] said he's a man that works for whatever money he can get um so he hasn't been really focused

[00:25:40] on it even though he was defending Zara from uh from Calpour he didn't get involved in the

[00:25:45] politics of what was going on in the situation there's a little nod to that in the opening scene

[00:25:49] where we see the newspaper that's being carried by Mr. Chadley the headline that's on there is

[00:25:54] saying that tensions are rising in Calpour so so that's still going on in the background

[00:25:59] but there's this internal strife that we've seen between the army led by general Thursday and

[00:26:04] Prime Minister Aziz which escalates and escalates in a series of people not understanding exactly

[00:26:12] what's going on on the other end of the phone and you really do worry about some international

[00:26:17] tensions that may be going on or even internal tensions that go on in the real world where

[00:26:21] this kind of conversation can happen effectively as we went through the opening sequence we saw

[00:26:26] the amount of people that didn't drink their morning cup of tea the one person that did

[00:26:30] was Prime Minister Aziz and from that point onwards he's in a fantasy world where he is the king of

[00:26:36] England it seems yeah and that's effectively how he approaches general Thursday when he calls to

[00:26:45] try and get himself and the soldiers released from level seven that Lucius has trapped them in so

[00:26:51] this almost felt like almost Dr. Strangelove Ty Esk in a way because of the misunderstanding

[00:27:00] between them because you have someone who is hallucinating not knowing that they're doing

[00:27:07] that because if they've taken a drug through their morning cup you have general Thursday with no

[00:27:13] idea of what's going on in the outside world topside above the bunker so it just leads to

[00:27:22] all the past history between these as we saw in previous episodes were you know

[00:27:27] general Thursday absolutely delineating where his responsibility is and the authority has

[00:27:34] over the level seven experiments and that the prime minister should not tread anywhere near it

[00:27:40] exactly and all that comes to pass and focus with these phone calls were even during the

[00:27:49] phone calls there is kind of confusion as why certainly from general Thursday why this is

[00:27:55] happening yeah where both parties think the other is about to undertake some kind of coup

[00:28:03] are on one another and yeah well general Thursday when he gets all that information from his from

[00:28:09] his lead soldier effectively whereas he's is saying I could destroy you with with a few words and

[00:28:15] general Thursday seems to think that because he's inside the bomb that is level seven that

[00:28:19] those words are pushed a button effectively so that's going back and forth and then as he's

[00:28:23] being in the solution nation gets the phone call from Thursday where Thursday is acquiescing a

[00:28:29] little bit saying to him you know my friend we will be open to listening to what it is

[00:28:34] and what problems you have that we can maybe discuss and come to some alignment and as he goes

[00:28:40] my friend he calls me I am your sovereign ruler and what I want is you servile or gone

[00:28:45] and that gets the hackles up even more with Thursday but that's what I mean

[00:28:49] general Thursday thinks as these is effectively placing himself as a dictator almost of the country

[00:28:58] doing a coup the PM is not the sovereign leader the queen would be the sovereign really right

[00:29:03] and at the same time just the antagonism between these two as these thinks that general Thursday

[00:29:14] is after him as well you know potentially doing a coup given he's an ex raven

[00:29:21] he very much prefers his independence from scrutiny of disease and this all mind melding in together

[00:29:32] with the lullaby drug so I just thought this was absolutely a superb kind of sequence of events

[00:29:42] that happen between these two because ultimately something very innocuous

[00:29:48] opened up to huge amounts of misunderstanding because of their past history and what's happening

[00:29:55] in that moment that the others are completely unaware of and the you know the prompt with

[00:30:02] Lucius locking them in and telling them they're effectively sat on a bomb the poor choice

[00:30:07] of words from Aziz which thinks that yes general Thursday thinks he's going to be blowing up

[00:30:14] with then getting a message to you know his colleagues and in the air force in order to

[00:30:22] effectively prevent some kind of coup that's happening a takeover of government by Aziz

[00:30:29] which is what it's sounding like to general Thursday and they did I just thought this was kind of

[00:30:35] almost Cuban missile crisis slash you know but played with the Doctor Strange love and kind of

[00:30:43] Boa bit and I thought it was really good yeah yeah excellent I have to say again the shots of

[00:30:48] overhead on this version of London 1970s London so it's not the same layout as actual London now

[00:30:54] but the overhead shots as the plane flies in to drop the bomb over number 10 Downing Street

[00:30:59] are fantastic they're really really good I love seeing a plane flying that low over London

[00:31:04] you don't see it very often there's a lot of high buildings in London nowadays so

[00:31:08] so I like that they were able to do that in in those scenes and the one call out and again

[00:31:14] I understand the show itself but the one call out is there's people rioting all across the city

[00:31:20] we heard it being called a mental breaker or mental health issue that's causing the problem here

[00:31:28] but they still take a phone call from general Thursday to drop a bomb on 10 Downing Street

[00:31:32] and nobody goes hang on a second maybe there's something wrong with him you know so there is

[00:31:37] there's a little bit of weirdness there but I thought it was great sequence yeah absolutely

[00:31:41] I mean it's not yes there's a little looseness to it sure but it works it works for this show

[00:31:48] yeah exactly excellent stuff excellent stuff that is the main points of the episode but

[00:31:52] I think there's a few little notes that we should be calling out here John definitely

[00:31:57] once again this show has given us something that we've asked for

[00:32:02] and it makes me wonder was someone listening to the podcast and we got Granny's with guns

[00:32:08] back John which we saw back in season two when we saw the battle between the the the

[00:32:14] the Ravens and the the English League we saw Granny's with guns for the first time and I

[00:32:18] remember you particularly being very excited about the idea that we could have streets

[00:32:21] patrolled by Granny's with guns and we get them here in this episode we're driving the streets

[00:32:26] under the influence of trying to protect their their domain from the angry horde yeah or maybe

[00:32:34] be or maybe you better go and join the angry horde well maybe yes morning cup of tea not

[00:32:38] entirely sure what side they were on because they were certainly flailing around with those

[00:32:45] machine guns quite a bit but Granny's guns always a good sign yeah and love that little

[00:32:51] reference in there for sure yeah there was one other cameo I guess I think so which is

[00:32:58] the voice in the lift that takes Martha and Alfie down to level seven is the voice of the

[00:33:06] London Underground or it certainly sounded like that the voice of the London Underground

[00:33:12] announcement of mine the gap and as the lift goes down level seven whether it is couldn't really

[00:33:20] tell from the credits but it is Emma Clark who does the voice of mine the gap and it sounded

[00:33:26] very much like this voice that is in the lift that takes Alfie and Martha down to level seven

[00:33:33] it does and it's even the freight itself levels have level seven access granted

[00:33:37] mine the closing doors so it does sound very like her I hope it is her unfortunately isn't in the

[00:33:42] credits there because it is just a one line gag I'd say so we don't we don't see in the credits

[00:33:48] there but well done if it is Emma Clark and yeah definitely ever been told you know that voice

[00:33:53] very very well yeah absolutely I just wanted to call it two other things about Sandra which

[00:33:58] I really enjoyed this episode for shining a light on number one is Sandra thinking that

[00:34:03] that all the attacks that are going on are her fans because fans be crazy basically I'm used to

[00:34:08] this all the time they're always outside my house shouting for me and Alfie's kind of going

[00:34:11] numb the shouting for your blood I know they're carrying posters but they've they're crazed

[00:34:16] fans now thought that was really good and of course Beth asking the question of the series

[00:34:22] what the hell does Candles and Caravans actually mean? What the hell is it about?

[00:34:27] How has it gotten so popular? It's a beautiful song she's got a beautiful voice I get it but

[00:34:31] Caravans and Candlesticks doesn't really have any meaning at all no it doesn't yeah except

[00:34:38] being out of power I suppose on a Caravan holiday I guess so yeah but yeah maybe that's it maybe that's

[00:34:44] it and no major quotes in the episode that that need to be deciphered just one or two and I'm

[00:34:51] just not too sure whether they would translate to the American audience of course as we've

[00:34:55] mentioned this show is only being broadcast on HBL Max so only North American viewers and

[00:35:00] South American viewers getting to see the show on a regular basis two that I caught and Beth saying

[00:35:06] I know you got the hump with me I think you could probably tell by context that just means

[00:35:10] I know you're irritated at me or annoyed by me and the other one was again we shouldn't really

[00:35:19] step into trying to translate things that Alfie said after our complete mistake last week but

[00:35:25] effectively it's when Martha thanks Alfie and he says there's no need to thank me there's a

[00:35:29] tenor in it that's a callback to Martha saying she'll pay him for going into level seven a tenor

[00:35:35] just means 10 pounds so he's just saying I'm being paid for this that's why yeah I don't know whether

[00:35:40] that's something I know people don't call $10 a tenor at all so just they may not have called

[00:35:47] what Alfie was saying there that's that's the only reason I've put it in there but I think

[00:35:50] that's it for Oliver and thoughts on the episode but John how would you rate the finale of season

[00:35:55] three of Pennyworth I thought it was a really good wrap up I would give this four and a half

[00:36:02] drug infused cup as out of five excellent yeah yeah I think this is very high up there for me

[00:36:08] for the show they've done it again they've rounded out the series on a high with a great episode

[00:36:13] or crowd found at the season with a high always forget what the what the whether we call it

[00:36:17] seasons a series because we call them series over here yes but series a running out the series

[00:36:22] would mean this final ever episode basically so but we don't know that yet so but I think it

[00:36:26] worked out very well I think gathering everybody together in one locations great is a great way

[00:36:30] of doing and kind of working out how you get everybody that is spread across the city

[00:36:35] into one location is always always a fun thing to do with your final episode

[00:36:39] and yes the the tensions between PMZ's and Channel 30 were great to work great to

[00:36:46] really good I mean I had a lot of laughs in in this episode and I love the

[00:36:54] the mixed messages with the phone call between Thursday and Aziz I love not having the I do from

[00:37:03] Alfie as well with the bomb drop and yeah it was just some really good weird

[00:37:11] and wonderful moments for this episode I think excellent yes and we are going to go on to some

[00:37:17] feedback for episode nine and to our Royal Mail feedback section we hope we're going to get in

[00:37:24] a little bit of feedback on the episode before we release it because that's what we promised

[00:37:28] to do we said we'd hold off on this episode so you are listening to this episode a little bit

[00:37:31] late after the episode has come out we normally release them on the day of release but I think

[00:37:34] we're going to release this one a little bit later so we can get your thoughts in for the

[00:37:38] finale so let's start off with a little throwback to last week and last week we asked for some help

[00:37:46] on the line from Alfie which we thought was Alfie calling the shape-shifting PWE a fug

[00:37:53] and we didn't really know what a fug meant and we thought it was a fuggly effectively

[00:37:59] we did shortened version of fugly yes and I think the only reason that was certainly in my

[00:38:04] mind was because of a previous episode of Drag Race UK with RuPaul yes because there was a dog

[00:38:13] called Fuggly on the weather yes and you'd already watched it at the dare so beforehand so yes that's

[00:38:18] probably what it was and we want to say a huge thank you to Ricardo Bacigalupo who sent us

[00:38:23] in an email to explain what we've gotten round he says hi Jala derk hope you guys are well

[00:38:29] just listen to your episode and 309 at the show I worked on season two and three of Pennyworth

[00:38:33] it's been fun listening to you guys chatting about what we did I went back into the script

[00:38:36] page just to check it's written as thug not fugg Alfie's line is my mom's got a certain sparkle

[00:38:43] you just look like a thug looking forward to hearing what you think about the final episode

[00:38:48] thanks Ricardo and Ricardo yes thank you so much I did send an email back to Ricardo

[00:38:52] saying I felt a bit like an idiot myself and John both did but it did make me laugh for most

[00:38:56] of the week that I didn't catch a Londoner replacing the letters th with an F is pretty

[00:39:03] standard that's that's something that you'd hear very often and we have heard from Michael Cain

[00:39:08] and we have heard from Jack Bannon on a pretty regular basis when they're when they're doing

[00:39:13] their London accent that that's what they do and we settled on it must be thug not thug

[00:39:18] it's the cockney accent it's the cockney th and just how doing it and I just yeah likewise

[00:39:24] just didn't connect that and that pronounced that accented pronunciation yeah we really should

[00:39:31] have got it why would he be calling a woman who looks exactly like his mother played by the

[00:39:36] same actress in fairness we did say that on the episode well that's why we weren't entirely

[00:39:41] sure whether we had gotten it right and thank you Ricardo for putting us right on that because

[00:39:46] yet for sure um we completely misinterpreted uh that one yeah if there is a four season

[00:39:53] maybe we aren't qualified to do the translation in every episode thanks so much for reaching out

[00:39:58] Ricardo thanks so much for listening as well really good to hear from you yeah good stuff

[00:40:02] thanks Ricardo we also got an email through from Victor von Doom on last week's episode episode nine

[00:40:09] who says greetings bat verse well to paraphrase Alfie this was not how I thought this would go

[00:40:17] Alfie totally bumbled his marriage proposal shouldn't he have brought a ring and taken

[00:40:22] Sandra to dinner now Sally wants Dave boys help Sam is kidnapped by Virginia I was pleased to see

[00:40:30] her sources what possible influence has patricia on the story lucius is playing hero happy to see

[00:40:38] a powered bet who will sort out general thursday either feeling either peg or bet we'll handle

[00:40:45] that the one thing we saw coming is the mad plot of folks what a bonus the return of Peggy and an

[00:40:53] enhanced bet psychs yes what a great episode and series can't wait for the finale and next season

[00:41:01] cheerio bat verse victor von doom thank you victor absolutely and yes I think the influence

[00:41:08] that patricia has on the story is to come out with some key corking lines that I think everyone would

[00:41:16] say in the privacy with people who are close to them and or just being quite frank and honest

[00:41:23] because her deadpan delivery her honesty around it certainly has gotten lapsed out of me and I

[00:41:30] think that might be the main reason and certainly as well I guess it this time of

[00:41:39] Thomas Wayne's life this era of the whole bat verse it's also interesting to log in a sister or

[00:41:49] dare I say even the daughter with Sam yeah absolutely and patricia of course is she's

[00:41:55] the party socialite so she's the one that connects everybody to this underground drug scene in

[00:42:03] in London so we have sally with Dave boy connecting him there but now we have effectively Martha and

[00:42:08] the Wayne's being connected through patricia she is hilarious I love I love searing on screen

[00:42:13] but do remember the big thing that she had on the story here the big connection that she had

[00:42:17] on the overall story she connected a little bit of the dots for Dave Boyd to connect with

[00:42:22] Francis Fuchs and the lullaby drug so it may never have gotten there if it wasn't for that

[00:42:27] conversation they had after patricia hidden in the closet overnight so she did have a little bit

[00:42:33] of influence but I did like that the first thing she was going to do was get her to play in

[00:42:36] Et al London because the place is crazy and it's gonna go everything's gonna blow up so yeah

[00:42:40] I'm Aish and certainly looking at this episode it looks like concrete will sort out general

[00:42:46] Thursday if no one is able to find the mechanisms that don't blow it up so yeah maybe um

[00:42:53] semtex and uh concrete will be the downfall of general Thursday maybe although it seems like

[00:43:01] lucius has effectively locked him inside a bunker and forever for for the next couple of days

[00:43:06] and tuned him almost he's like a furrow I guess well the locks should still work

[00:43:12] yeah unless that explosion took out all London which was aimed at Downing Street

[00:43:17] which I don't I'm not sure about we didn't mention that though we'd be mentioning the synopsis about

[00:43:22] Aziz kind of awakening awakening from the the influence of lullaby because the first time

[00:43:28] from at the end of the episode that you see him not in the the hallucination that he's had

[00:43:33] throughout the episode looks like he wakes up is before the bomb lands it's not a couple

[00:43:37] of seconds beforehand it looks like he hears the plane going overhead over London so I do wonder if

[00:43:44] Aziz escaped that bomb as well did he get himself into some kind of bunker to save himself as well

[00:43:50] may be it's entirely possible absolutely with the likes of uh bet sites coming back and being

[00:43:57] resurrected but certainly um yes uh totally with your victor around the bonus return of Peggy

[00:44:06] as well as bet in the last episode yeah definitely definitely thanks again uh victor

[00:44:12] we also got an email in from coffee and vodka on last week's episode he says greetings fellow

[00:44:16] plot pack defenders where to start heller and company sure know how to wrap up and clean house

[00:44:21] a nice two-and-one with Virginia being put out of action in a way that resements Martha and

[00:44:25] Thomas' relationship in shared protectionist murder some bond over stamp collecting others

[00:44:30] over homicide no judgment here it would have been nice to see how patricia and Sally managed to save

[00:44:36] themselves from being terminally teed but it was enough to see patricia wanes wonderfully in character

[00:44:41] reaction to the offer of playing the hero Alfie's mini journey in captive parenting with Sam in

[00:44:46] between awkward initial proposal and end of episode insight was a right bright spot of sweetness

[00:44:52] still looks like the marriage bit might be a pill to swallow though and is it just me or is

[00:44:57] it every time Thomas Martha and Alfie are in the same room it feels a bit cookie finally bets back

[00:45:02] and better than ever although in the credits it did say with plomaphate so no longer part of the

[00:45:07] regular weekly cast hopefully that changes with season four in the meantime what genius on the

[00:45:12] bad guy's side thought it was a good idea to give her super strength five sexy xxs mutual

[00:45:19] marital murders bionic bets mighty mice and mad cow mornings out of five peace and take care

[00:45:25] coffee and vodka p.s. I'm happily placing my bet now and Alfie being an orphan by the end of the

[00:45:30] next episode oh i'm so glad that didn't pan out yes coffee vodka we have alphie and his mom safe

[00:45:38] and sound uh and his mom and roger in attendance at the wedding so uh so that's okay at least that's

[00:45:44] happened she's safe and sound uh got through to the end of the episode so uh so i like that

[00:45:48] that's uh that's very happy with that yeah definitely and he is definitely right uh coffee

[00:45:52] vodka's definitely right those moments where you see martha thomas and alphie in the same room

[00:45:56] uh there's definitely a bit of a bit of cooking is going on uh between them um wonder if thomas

[00:46:02] still suspects what happened between alphie and martha as there's still some

[00:46:06] tension going on five six years after that happened i kind of feel that they're uh that

[00:46:10] they probably should be um especially given what's been going on in their marriage throughout this

[00:46:16] season and she calls uh alphie pretty often to help out with their problems so uh so i could i could see

[00:46:22] it i could see it definitely thanks uh so much coffee and vodka over on facebook for episode nine

[00:46:28] jamie lawton says really excellent episode what i love about this particular episode was that the

[00:46:34] sporting cast has some really good scenes especially david boy alphie's mom and the wanes as soon

[00:46:41] as the opening titles were shown i was excited as you see polywalker and paloma faith's names

[00:46:48] so i knew the return of the psych sisters was upcoming but alphie's mom dorothy atkinson

[00:46:55] really stole the show for me playing the evil clone of herself can't wait for the finale

[00:47:01] yeah to darothy atkinson was just so good uh at that role who's seen her as such a nice

[00:47:06] loving character bit of comedy throughout the series and here she is playing a playing a villain

[00:47:11] throughout the last episode she really was dorothy atkinson was really good in last week's

[00:47:17] episode and yes totally with you having uh the psych sisters uh back in town always good always

[00:47:24] good great to have them have a moment with them together as jerry cambell says finally caught

[00:47:29] up in time for the last two episodes the demonstrators in the park were hilarious loved the sign

[00:47:34] of nuts are the source of all evil really good to see beth sikes back i'm looking forward

[00:47:39] to see what the next episode has in store hopefully we get another season of the show

[00:47:44] fingers crossed sure fingers crossed i love the signs uh that the demonstrators had up

[00:47:50] in in uh hide park it's really good uh really good to see yeah absolutely and finally over on

[00:47:57] instagram lucius fox actor simon mayonda let us know that he's really been enjoying listening

[00:48:04] to the podcast particularly because he wasn't able to watch pay worth for weeks yeah it's a question

[00:48:09] that we had at the beginning of the of the series when we found out it was only going to be on hpl max

[00:48:13] and there wasn't a european release uh for the show or a u k release for the show what's it like for

[00:48:19] the actress themselves and when they can't just show it off to their friends and family other

[00:48:22] than screeners of course which i'm sure they do guess but but but effectively what it's like

[00:48:26] is you find a podcast like ours that's covering it so you can listen at least to what the

[00:48:31] reactions of uh of people that enjoy the show is so thanks so much for joining us on

[00:48:36] really good to hear you enjoyed the podcast as well yeah definitely thanks for your work

[00:48:40] as lucius as well yeah absolutely great this season good stuff uh that's all the feedback on

[00:48:46] episode nine um so thanks to all the fellow governors for sending in their feedback that's

[00:48:51] all the feedback for episode nine i think it's on with episode 10 feedback yeah we're going to

[00:48:57] pause here and hopefully have some feedback in here for uh for episode 10 and we're back after

[00:49:01] the episode is aired with a bit of feedback and our first bit of piece of feedback of course is

[00:49:05] about episode six excellent stuff always good to get feedback in no matter what episode it's from

[00:49:11] absolutely and the feedback is in from lisi laos who has some thoughts on episode six

[00:49:16] she says i know it's a little light and we already know it's thomas himself who shot his

[00:49:20] father by now but for me personally his behavior in this episode was a bit of a call back to

[00:49:25] as early as season one during his time with alistair cryley they have hinted as early as then

[00:49:30] that there was a darkness inside of him i've always wanted them to pull on this thread and

[00:49:34] i just think it's brilliant how they built up to it i like your points about how this do-gooder

[00:49:39] pediatric doctor is a facade that his father sees through and even martha knew the moment he left

[00:49:44] what he was going to do they knew about the side of thomas and now we too as viewers get to

[00:49:48] see that that's a great point i've completely forgotten how much they'd stress that back

[00:49:54] and that's a time back with alistair cryley absolutely it's a really good point i mean

[00:49:59] i guess it's also a bit of that echo of the battle within bruce you know as that vigilante

[00:50:08] and constantly being baited by the joker it's almost as though it's kind of been passed along

[00:50:15] with this darkness inside of thomas hereditary darkness well yes if such a thing is possible

[00:50:23] absolutely absolutely great to hear from you leah too i hope you're enjoying the season of

[00:50:27] of penny worth catching up on us as the episodes are coming out yeah thanks for the feedback lindsay

[00:50:33] on the final episode koffie and vodka says greetings fellow mind milk defenders

[00:50:39] rip aziz you great imperial badass we barely knew you of the space of death is expected

[00:50:47] i knew that alphie had hometown ties to lose to better cement his future role with the wanes

[00:50:54] hella having had his mother dance with her bow to delilah was all the foreshadowing needed

[00:51:00] but they majorly zigged that zag with not only her survival but his one word shy betrothal

[00:51:08] the rest of the episode was a nice homage to shawna the dead and no man's land hadn't

[00:51:14] expected to see folks get his comeuppance but zig me if i wasn't wrong again sorry to see thursday

[00:51:21] win the day yet another unexpected outcome can't help but hope that the blast was enough to set off

[00:51:28] the level seven auto destruct counterbalancing this the wanes seem to have embraced the

[00:51:34] crockery of their quirky murderous ways and bury the hatchet i guess no pun intended there

[00:51:41] from koffie and vodka and koffie and vodka continues finally if that was a nuke warner brothers has

[00:51:48] their excuse should there not be a season four have you heard anything it's being a blast

[00:51:54] following this season with you guys and hope to do so again five new nuclear families

[00:52:00] folks ups and ten downing street landfills out of five peace and take care koffie and vodka

[00:52:08] great stuff copy of a guy glad you caught the the shawna the dead connection there as well

[00:52:13] but also batman no man's land which was used as the premise i think of season four of

[00:52:18] gotham if i remember rightly maybe season five actually the final season started off with their

[00:52:23] reference to no man's land that awesome arc in batman comics so maybe a little foreshadowing

[00:52:29] of that in the uk yeah definitely good stuff i don't i don't think we think we talked about

[00:52:34] this episode i don't think that it was a nuke it did seem like probably likely they dropped a bomb on

[00:52:40] on ten downing street but i love the idea that it might have rattled the the surrounding lands

[00:52:45] enough to set off the yeah that would be the bomb inside the level seven yeah that would be sweet

[00:52:51] justice for a z's to take out general thursday i guess at the same time as him taking a z's

[00:52:59] out yeah great stuff goffing vodka is great having had your thoughts throughout this season

[00:53:06] as well yeah on season four we haven't heard anything as we mentioned this show was commissioned for

[00:53:10] epics originally and then moved to hbomax held off for the launch in hbomax but it is possible

[00:53:18] that we will get a season four you know shows like titans have gotten more seasons which is

[00:53:23] which is a hbomax yes so now that it's moved over there um obviously i'm sure depending on the

[00:53:29] ratings dependent how many people have picked up penny worth over on the hbomax now that all

[00:53:34] the episodes are added over there so i'd love to see a bit more yeah absolutely definitely um i think

[00:53:41] it's a nice kind of interlude where it's been left effectively assuming it's not a nuclear

[00:53:46] destination which is as i say don't think it is um because it can really sort of move to gotham in some

[00:53:57] respects yeah or it has the potential to do that and that would just you know just kind of narrow

[00:54:03] that divergence of it um with with gotham i'm guessing yeah i'd love to see how they continue

[00:54:10] with you know what's happening with samantha will bruce come along at some point in the future

[00:54:14] you know i'd love to see how they continue that storyline with the wanes well that's it you could

[00:54:19] almost imagine bruno hella with sandra pregnant marita alphie that it is a boy sandra dies or

[00:54:29] something in childbirth and it's passed to the wanes oh they call it bruce and that's why

[00:54:36] it's so connected to bruce so that'll be really really different yeah i i don't know i there's just

[00:54:42] you know it's a possibility that could be anything yes could easily happen in the hell of us yes i like

[00:54:48] it i like it good stuff thanks again coffee okay we also got some final feedback on the finale of

[00:54:54] penny worth season three uh on facebook from jayme lorton who says what an epic finale really enjoyed

[00:55:00] the episode and the series don't want to spoiler for anyone else so i'll just keep mum about the

[00:55:04] content itself the one thing that really stood out to me was the real 70s vibe that the creators

[00:55:09] managed to capture sat dressing was top class some background objects really brought the 70s memories

[00:55:15] back in this particular episode it was the milk bottle top getting your finger and thumb covered

[00:55:19] in milk if you press too hard also the slr rifle the soldier has had when i was a kid i had a toy one

[00:55:26] i think made by airfix yes i do remember and jayme has supplied a photograph of it as well

[00:55:31] definitely remember there's been the shops dead absolutely and remember the milk aspect with

[00:55:38] the the foil tops whether the foil tops were still there because the birds had pecked through the

[00:55:44] tops and then of course trying to be the first one to get the cream off the top absolutely

[00:55:50] absolutely with four elder brothers um and and my parents obviously uh all vying for the the cream

[00:55:55] of the milk uh for your breakfast in the morning and then of course there's always one brother

[00:56:01] who shakes up the bottle so that uh the cream's all gone and nobody feels special well that's

[00:56:05] true and of course now all the milk in uh the containers is all homogenized anyway so exactly

[00:56:10] exactly don't get the cream on the milk good stuff jayme glad i brought back a bit of memories for you

[00:56:15] there as well i'm i'm glad they're able to do that with this show because they really do work very

[00:56:19] hard at getting it to look like a version of the 70s definitely not the 70s they have some

[00:56:24] stuff there that that couldn't possibly exist then but uh but i love that they they do keep

[00:56:29] the essence of it but i think that's it all the way through penny worth and likewise with with

[00:56:35] gotham the the production design and feel was always just really top notch you know i think

[00:56:42] if there was one word that i could say it's just it's always been quirky it's been this really

[00:56:47] interesting uh mix of of different genres and so on but giving an overall feel and i mean

[00:56:55] certainly there is really that vibe from the very first episode um you know with the ravens i mean

[00:57:02] we had people hanging cages off lamp posts we had beef eaters with guns you know real vibe of

[00:57:10] moving from those you know those early days in penny worth being you know kind of just after

[00:57:17] the war sort of you know mid 40s through to where you have that more and 70s vibe as you say jamie so

[00:57:27] yeah really good stuff thanks for the feedback jay was always really interesting back in season one

[00:57:32] where it was like you you were in the 60s definitely but they had these kind of tinges of it that

[00:57:37] it could have been bits taken from the 40s bits taken from the 1800s as well with well that's

[00:57:42] it even even the the wide shots of of london with the urblins certainly reminiscent of sort of

[00:57:50] wartime london but also the smokestacks there was almost a victorian aspect to that i guess

[00:57:58] and of course i'm having the ripper in there as well of course a little references back there

[00:58:03] and of course we had the famous blimp which we saw this season once i think and

[00:58:07] and that famously continues on into gotham as well so some connections anyway as well

[00:58:12] good stuff thanks jamie and thanks everybody for all of your feedback throughout this season

[00:58:16] been great hearing from everybody their thoughts please keep sending them into us we love reading

[00:58:20] them yes absolutely thanks so much jamie and to all the other fellow governors for sending in

[00:58:27] your feedback through this season absolutely back to us in the past to close out the finale of

[00:58:33] pennyworth hopefully some great thoughts there from our wonderful fellow governors on episode 10

[00:58:38] that's it for our coverage of season three of pennyworth as i mentioned before we do want to

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[00:59:20] it there is willow which is coming out in disney plus we've seen the first three episodes of

[00:59:24] the show it's really really fun actually we've seen a little more than the first three

[00:59:28] episodes haven't we a few more episodes than that really really fun well worth watching

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[01:00:46] if you only joined us for this episode of our pennyworth podcast be great sharing our thoughts on

[01:00:51] pennyworth and hearing your thoughts about it as well so hopefully we'll see you back in the

[01:00:55] future on one of our whatever shows or on pennyworth season four yeah exactly thanks so much for

[01:01:01] joining us speak to you again next time yeah thanks so much fellow governors and fellow

[01:01:05] gothamites for joining us as we discuss the world of alfred pennyworth the origin of

[01:01:14] batman's butler gosh still a mouthful but in the meantime and for when we're next back in the

[01:01:21] world of pennyworth keep watching keep listening and stay away from the tea bye bye

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