Welcome back fellow Defenders Derek and John are back with Marvel Animation for The Eyes of Wakanda Episode 1 "Into The Lions Den". From executive producer Ryan Coogler this is the first of a four part series set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. All episodes are available now on Disney Plus. So watch the episode and let us know what you think.
Eyes of Wakanda Episode 1 "Into The Lions Den" Details
Executive Producer: Ryan Coogler
Series helmed by: Todd Harris
Episode Written by: Geoffrey Thorne
Episode Directed by: Todd Harris
Spoiler Filled Synopsis: In 1260 B.C. in the land of Wakanda, the leader of the Dora Milaje, Akeje needs help from a former Dora, Noni on a solo mission.
A former high level Wakandan leader, calling himself The Lion, has left the secretive society armed with dozens of powerful Wakandan items. If these items fall into the wrong hands they could pose a danger to the world.
Noni accepts the mission and locates The Lion in Crete where he is capturing and enslaving the people to add them to what he believes is a utopian society.
Noni battles and confronts The Lion but she is blinded in the fight. He refuses to return to Wakanda and sets an explosion which sends all the Wakandan artifacts to the bottom of the Aegean Sea.
Noni returns to Wakanda and is offered a place back in the Dora Milaje. When Noni refuses, Akeje offers her membership of The War Dogs. A secret society with the purpose of keeping Wakandan tech out of the hands of the rest of the world for as long as it takes.
Cast of Eyes of Wakanda Episode 1
- Noni - WINNIE HARLOW
- The Lion - CRESS WILLIAMS
- Akeya - PATRICIA BELCHER
- Lion Guard 1 - HENRI LUBATTI
Contact us and subscribe to the podcast
Thank you so much for listening to our Eyes of Wakanda Podcast. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast through our website TV Podcast Industries.
If you would like to send any of your thoughts in please send the m to feedback@tvpodcastindustries.com join us on facebook at Facebook.com/groups/tvpodcastindustries or you can now record your thoughts for the podcast directly from our website tvpodcastindustries.com by clicking the “Send Voicemail” button.
We'll be back next time with our podcast on Eyes of Wakanda Episode 2 "Legends and Lies" we hope you'll join us.
Keep watching, Keep Listing and Keep Defending
John, Chris and Derek
Defenders on TV Podcast Industries
Date recorded: 31/07/2025
Date published: 01/08/2025
All images and audio clips are copyright of Marvel and Disney Plus and are used for the purposes of review no infringement is intended.
00:00 --> 00:03 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the Defenders podcast on TV podcast industries.
00:04 --> 00:10 [SPEAKER_02]: We are back talking about animation in the MCU with the eyes of Wakanda episode one into the Lion's Den.
00:10 --> 00:15 [SPEAKER_01]: If freedom is what you offer, why are there so many chains?
00:16 --> 00:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Ah, the chain sacrificed today to build the world of tomorrow.
00:21 --> 00:26 [SPEAKER_00]: A world that descendants will work freely United under one banner.
00:28 --> 00:28 [SPEAKER_00]: It is impressive.
00:29 --> 00:30 [SPEAKER_00]: So you see.
00:31 --> 00:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Your delusion?
00:32 --> 00:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
00:34 --> 00:35 [SPEAKER_00]: That is what Kanda talking.
00:36 --> 00:37 [SPEAKER_00]: You are not one of them.
00:38 --> 00:40 [SPEAKER_00]: You are meant to roam free like me.
00:40 --> 00:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I am not like you.
00:42 --> 00:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you will not return with me willingly, I will bring you back in a coffee.
01:02 --> 01:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back fellow defenders and I guess more dogs to TV podcast industries where we're talking about the eyes of Wakanda episode one into the Lions Dan.
01:12 --> 01:13 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm one of your host Derek.
01:13 --> 01:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Hello there fellow defenders.
01:15 --> 01:23 [SPEAKER_03]: I am your other host John welcome back to the defenders podcast and So the eyes of Wakanda
01:23 --> 01:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, another week.
01:25 --> 01:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Are there reason not to be continuing a coverage of Sunman?
01:27 --> 01:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Correctly.
01:29 --> 01:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I really don't want us to continue on with a coverage of that.
01:31 --> 01:34 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm really excited to talk about the next three episodes of the Sunman.
01:34 --> 01:36 [SPEAKER_02]: We all know about the first three.
01:36 --> 01:39 [SPEAKER_02]: We've watched the other three written notes and everything ready to go.
01:39 --> 01:43 [SPEAKER_02]: The other six episodes of the series are already out on Netflix.
01:43 --> 01:46 [SPEAKER_02]: The five episodes of the series are already out on Netflix right now.
01:46 --> 01:47 [SPEAKER_02]: We can't get back to them.
01:47 --> 01:49 [SPEAKER_02]: But at least it's a good reason.
01:49 --> 01:52 [SPEAKER_02]: At least it's a cool animated show all released today.
01:53 --> 02:16 [SPEAKER_03]: We're just juggling a lot of different balls at the moment and we decided we could do the eyes of Wakanda relatively quickly and then come back to the Sandman as well Yes, exactly because we've got a quite a number of the episodes teed up Ready to go for after our coverage of the eyes of Wakanda
02:16 --> 02:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
02:17 --> 02:21 [SPEAKER_02]: If you want to hear that cover, just make sure you pop on over to our website at tvpodcastindustries.com.
02:21 --> 02:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Subscribe to the podcast there and you get access to all of the shows that we cover.
02:25 --> 02:31 [SPEAKER_02]: It's about seventy six shows like overall, of course, the last eleven years so as lots of lots of stuff to listen to.
02:32 --> 02:36 [SPEAKER_02]: But for the moment, we are going to focus on our coverage of eyes of Wakanda and we want to hear your thoughts.
02:37 --> 02:53 [SPEAKER_02]: and you can email us to feedback at tvpodcastindustries.com with your thoughts about any of the episodes of Eyes of Wakanda or the entire series, or you can pop out over to our Facebook group at facebook.com slash groups slash TV podcast industries where there's a spoiler post up for each of the four episodes that were released today on Disney+.
02:54 --> 02:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, indeed.
02:55 --> 03:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I think with that, let us jump straight into our spoiler-filled discussion of into the lines Dan, the first episode of the four
03:06 --> 03:09 [SPEAKER_03]: episode series Eyes of Wakanda.
03:10 --> 03:14 [SPEAKER_03]: Derek, who gave us what were when and why?
03:15 --> 03:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I suppose this guy's had a pretty big year this year.
03:17 --> 03:22 [SPEAKER_02]: This show is an executive produced by Ryan Kougler, of course, spinning out of his black Panther movies.
03:23 --> 03:26 [SPEAKER_02]: The eyes of Wakanda was a project that he's been working on for a few years, so he is executive producing this.
03:26 --> 03:31 [SPEAKER_02]: He's had such a big year as I said, he's had his own movie centers, which was absolutely brilliant.
03:32 --> 03:32 [SPEAKER_02]: really, really good.
03:32 --> 03:36 [SPEAKER_02]: He's also with the executive producer on Ironheart, which again, Sponise of the Sponite of Wakanda forever.
03:36 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_02]: So really, it's Ryan Kougler's year, isn't it?
03:37 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_03]: The certainly a lot of Kougler in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in,
03:46 --> 03:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely, absolutely, keep him on board producing stuff for Marvel as much as he can because he is going to fly into the stratosphere after the center.
03:56 --> 03:57 [SPEAKER_02]: So great to have my board here.
03:58 --> 04:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I think rest of the executives for this show are Brad Windabam, Kevin Feige, Louis D'Esposito, Gigi Kugler, Sev O'Hainian, Kalaya King, Todd Harris, Danavaskas, Everhars as well.
04:08 --> 04:13 [SPEAKER_02]: This show is helmed by Todd Harris, who's the executive producer and director for most of the episodes here as well.
04:13 --> 04:20 [SPEAKER_02]: He was a storyboard artist since two thousand and eight and started to work with the MCU with Thor Ragnarok and Black Panther itself back in twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen.
04:21 --> 04:33 [SPEAKER_02]: He's been working on every single MCU project ever since then so and you'll see throughout the series lots of other people that were involved in those MCU projects in the storyboarding for the movies are involved in this project here for Eyes of Wakanda as well.
04:33 --> 04:34 [SPEAKER_02]: It's quite cool.
04:35 --> 04:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Excellent.
04:37 --> 04:41 [SPEAKER_02]: This episode was directed by Todd Harris, as I mentioned, and written by Jeffrey Thorne.
04:42 --> 04:49 [SPEAKER_02]: He's one of the executive producers in the show as well, and he's been a writer for fifteen years, including the Marvel official Black Panther Podcasts since of the King.
04:49 --> 04:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
04:49 --> 04:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's somebody called.
04:52 --> 04:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's a scripted story podcast that it went from Wolverine that it went for a fantastic four and then one for a Black Panther as well.
04:58 --> 05:02 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, yeah, some really cool stories there from Marvel as well.
05:02 --> 05:07 [SPEAKER_02]: John, do you want to tell us what the gave us for the first episode of Eyes of Wakanda?
05:07 --> 05:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
05:08 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_03]: In Twelfth Sixty B.C.
05:10 --> 05:17 [SPEAKER_03]: in the land of Wakanda, the leader of the Darum Elijah, Akaiji, needs help from Naughty for a solo mission.
05:18 --> 05:26 [SPEAKER_03]: A former high level Wakanda leader, calling himself the Lion, has left the secretive society armed with dozens of powerful Wakanda items.
05:27 --> 05:31 [SPEAKER_03]: If these items fall into the wrong hands, they could pose a danger to the world.
05:32 --> 05:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Non-excepts the mission and locates the lion in Crete, where he is capturing and enslaving the people to add them to what he believes is a utopian society.
05:43 --> 05:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Nonny battles and confronts the line, but she is blinded in the fight.
05:47 --> 05:55 [SPEAKER_03]: He refuses to return to Wakanda and sets an explosion which sends all the Wakanda artifacts to the bottom of the GNC.
05:56 --> 06:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Nonny returns to Wakanda and is offered a place back in the Dora Milaje.
06:00 --> 06:06 [SPEAKER_03]: When Nonny refuses, a Kasia offers her membership of the War Dogs,
06:06 --> 06:14 [SPEAKER_03]: A secret society with the purpose of keeping Wakandan tech out of the hands of the rest of the world for as long as it takes.
06:23 --> 06:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
06:24 --> 06:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I think because of the posters that were right there and because of the initial ideas that were right there about the series a couple of years ago, I think lots of people thought this was going to be stories about the early life of the of the Black Panthers, some other Black Panthers from the past effectively, because the Black Panther mantle has passed through generations at throughout Wakanda and society.
06:44 --> 06:52 [SPEAKER_02]: And there was also the rumor that there was going to be a Dora Milaje live action series as well, which is going to feature characters that we've seen in those movies.
06:52 --> 06:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Here we have this animated series really focused on the war dogs.
06:55 --> 07:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Another faction that we did see in the movies, the biggest character that we probably recognized from that was Nickier, who was the partner of the first Black Panther movie.
07:06 --> 07:10 [SPEAKER_02]: And the mother of his child, as we learned, by the end of the second movie of Wakanda Forever.
07:10 --> 07:16 [SPEAKER_02]: So, what do you think of these guys, the focus of the stories, John, of the war dogs?
07:17 --> 07:25 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's really interesting, actually, because I think this ultimately, this first episode is the opening bookends.
07:25 --> 07:32 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the series is nicely bookends in my view, and the protagonist here is Nonny, who
07:34 --> 08:02 [SPEAKER_03]: seemingly seems to be almost like the mother of the war dogs and in some ways has set a philosophy out about being a war dog what it means to go out into the world away from Wakanda for long periods of time and so on and so I kind of like this alternative look at you know the secret agents effectively sent into the wider world which Wakanda
08:03 --> 08:05 [SPEAKER_03]: doesn't want to have contact with.
08:05 --> 08:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
08:06 --> 08:09 [SPEAKER_03]: And I like how this opening is where
08:11 --> 08:22 [SPEAKER_03]: a former war dog has essentially lived that experience of being in the outside world and wants that as the lion says, wants that freedom.
08:22 --> 08:27 [SPEAKER_03]: So this was kind of one of my favorite things about this episode really.
08:28 --> 08:35 [SPEAKER_03]: And it was just that sort of turn on Wakanda by just simply being, you know,
08:36 --> 08:48 [SPEAKER_03]: free of the confines of, in a sense, this reclusive society that is actively seeking to separate itself from the wider world.
08:48 --> 09:01 [SPEAKER_03]: And these were condons that have gone out and to kill, to steal, to lie, to maintain that secrecy of this reclusive state.
09:02 --> 09:14 [SPEAKER_03]: when out in the real world, as Nony says from her time, tracking down the lion, it's real experiences and that are lived here.
09:14 --> 09:20 [SPEAKER_03]: It's real moments and you see this reflected through some of the other episodes.
09:21 --> 09:30 [SPEAKER_03]: the experiences of being away from Reconter and in the real world that are set down here by Nonny.
09:31 --> 09:40 [SPEAKER_03]: But Nonny wants to be this world, she prefers this life which can be more lonely and you're working in solitude but
09:43 --> 09:45 [SPEAKER_03]: It is different to being a Dormolage.
09:45 --> 09:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
09:45 --> 09:53 [SPEAKER_02]: And in fact, the reason she was expelled from the Dormolage is because she can't work with other, there are very highly trained organizations.
09:53 --> 09:55 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's one of the cool things that it learned from this series.
09:55 --> 10:02 [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't really guess from what kind of forever or Black Panther is that the war dogs are similarly trained to Dormolage.
10:02 --> 10:15 [SPEAKER_02]: that the same level of fighting ability, but they are set in a spy as across the world to ensure the world doesn't penetrate Wakanda and doesn't use their artifacts against them or against other nations.
10:16 --> 10:18 [SPEAKER_02]: So I love that setup and I love how far back this goes.
10:18 --> 10:20 [SPEAKER_02]: This is twelve, six, twelve, sixty BC.
10:20 --> 10:21 [SPEAKER_02]: So you know, this is ancient times.
10:21 --> 10:23 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going back a really long time.
10:24 --> 10:26 [SPEAKER_02]: So I love that as the starting point.
10:27 --> 10:38 [SPEAKER_02]: And for me, my favorite thing about the episode is the antagonist himself, you know, the person that they've set up against this focal point of Nani and the lion and his idea of what he believes freedom is.
10:39 --> 10:48 [SPEAKER_02]: He may have been right at some point when he came up with this idea that the trappings of Wakanda don't allow the Wakanda people to see the rest of the world, therefore they are slaves.
10:49 --> 10:55 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's become twisted, his idea has turned into him now and slaving other people calling it freedom.
10:55 --> 11:01 [SPEAKER_02]: He's having them branded, he's telling them if they don't, or his peace people are telling them if they don't believe they will be convinced.
11:02 --> 11:07 [SPEAKER_02]: And what we learn over the course of the episode as Nani infiltrates this organization, we learn that
11:08 --> 11:18 [SPEAKER_02]: actually some people aren't convinced and they're throwing overboard into the ocean to drown and die and they don't become part of this utopic society.
11:18 --> 11:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
11:19 --> 11:30 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean it is that they're being forced to embrace this new life and the lion says it is the short term sacrifice of the few for longer term freedom somehow that this
11:31 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_03]: brutality.
11:33 --> 11:52 [SPEAKER_03]: I like the fact that non-ecals it benevolence that looks like bonded just that this brutality is justified on the basis that people will be free in the future, but at some point it won't be like this, but we've got to force them into seeing this freedom before
11:53 --> 11:55 [SPEAKER_03]: we are actually free.
11:56 --> 12:07 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's kind of an interesting take to see the opening here in Crete, twelve, sixty BC, where raiders from the sea coming to take slaves.
12:07 --> 12:10 [SPEAKER_03]: And that was a common place in that time.
12:10 --> 12:13 [SPEAKER_03]: But here we have, you know, nonny then.
12:14 --> 12:29 [SPEAKER_03]: going against that and during her mission in order to bring these artifacts that he stole and from Wakanda back and also him if he comes willingly.
12:30 --> 12:31 [SPEAKER_03]: But I like the fact that
12:32 --> 12:40 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, in a sense, he kills it or sacrifices himself, kills himself with the explosion on the basis that I'm not going back.
12:40 --> 12:42 [SPEAKER_03]: I will die free.
12:43 --> 12:47 [SPEAKER_03]: He is committed to his cause.
12:48 --> 12:49 [SPEAKER_03]: And indeed, it's almost
12:50 --> 12:55 [SPEAKER_03]: I think there's the idea that he would also become a threat to a condor.
12:56 --> 12:59 [SPEAKER_03]: It's the reason why the condons are sending nonny out.
12:59 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_03]: And one because she was never trained by him.
13:03 --> 13:08 [SPEAKER_03]: So she should have a few surprises up her sleeve in battle if it comes to that.
13:08 --> 13:17 [SPEAKER_03]: But also that they're afraid with him taking all this tech, all these artifacts that in fact, he will form this
13:17 --> 13:24 [SPEAKER_03]: or the sphere of power of influence, which actually you do kind of see that he's looking to do.
13:25 --> 13:30 [SPEAKER_03]: That would rival challenge Wakanda in the future.
13:30 --> 13:35 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, it was I really enjoyed this this episode.
13:35 --> 13:43 [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of sets the scene for the other episodes then that show recovery of these artifacts.
13:43 --> 13:46 [SPEAKER_03]: to one degree or another and nuances on that.
13:47 --> 13:51 [SPEAKER_03]: I love the animation style, but really nicely done.
13:51 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_03]: And I love the design actually of the lion's ships with the big lion figure head on the bow of the ship.
13:59 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
13:59 --> 14:03 [SPEAKER_03]: It was really, really, really cool looking.
14:03 --> 14:07 [SPEAKER_03]: And I like that kind of notion of this floating city almost.
14:07 --> 14:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
14:07 --> 14:11 [SPEAKER_03]: The ships that came from this circle, there's some really cool elements in this.
14:11 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely, and we know this stretches into the other episodes.
14:15 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about those as the other episodes go on as well.
14:17 --> 14:20 [SPEAKER_02]: But they're definitely felt like there was even more depths.
14:21 --> 14:28 [SPEAKER_02]: behind what was going on here, similar things to explore in the corners of what was going on in the society created by the lion.
14:28 --> 14:33 [SPEAKER_02]: One of the things I found really interesting were the kind of foreheads of his army.
14:34 --> 14:39 [SPEAKER_02]: We had a Simone warrior, we had a Japanese warrior, Viking warrior, an Arabic warrior.
14:39 --> 14:43 [SPEAKER_02]: So it almost feels like the lion was going round as a former
14:43 --> 14:53 [SPEAKER_02]: leader almost of Wakanda and picking up people who felt betrayed by their own organizations in their own countries and felt like that's what they wanted to be free of.
14:53 --> 15:01 [SPEAKER_02]: I felt like that could also form a great story of how the lion attracted these other warriors from other countries and other societies to him.
15:01 --> 15:04 [SPEAKER_02]: These are some of the greatest warriors from across the globe at the time.
15:05 --> 15:06 [SPEAKER_02]: So how did he attract them all to them?
15:07 --> 15:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Did he kidnapped them all from their own homes and then convinced them that they were free under him.
15:13 --> 15:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And also the point you mentioned about, you know, this is for the future society that will eventually be free as the way that it describes it.
15:19 --> 15:25 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, in a few generations time, these people who have been subjugated will eventually be free in my new society.
15:25 --> 15:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, that doesn't necessarily work very well.
15:29 --> 15:34 [SPEAKER_02]: And it just does look exactly like the type of boats that came into cities across Africa and across Europe.
15:35 --> 15:39 [SPEAKER_02]: captured the people of those countries and turned them to slavery.
15:39 --> 15:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't worry about the slavery right now.
15:41 --> 15:42 [SPEAKER_02]: In the future, you'll be free.
15:42 --> 15:46 [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people still experience a former slavery into this society.
15:46 --> 15:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Even in Northern Europe, the Vikings took huge numbers of slaves from their raided land.
15:53 --> 15:56 [SPEAKER_03]: So did the Romans did.
15:56 --> 16:04 [SPEAKER_03]: It's almost kind of common place to some degree at this time, not as such right.
16:06 --> 16:12 [SPEAKER_03]: And it was that threat and danger in the world at this time.
16:13 --> 16:16 [SPEAKER_03]: I really thought this was great.
16:16 --> 16:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Ultimately, we have not only returning to a conder, and as you say, sort of deciding really to serve as a war dog and not as a derimology.
16:27 --> 16:29 [SPEAKER_02]: And touch that I really liked about this when she returned.
16:29 --> 16:35 [SPEAKER_02]: She returns feeling like she's going to be disgraced because she didn't achieve her goals.
16:35 --> 16:38 [SPEAKER_02]: She didn't get the lion back and she didn't retrieve all of the artifacts.
16:38 --> 16:40 [SPEAKER_02]: These dozens of artifacts that are now in the world.
16:41 --> 16:45 [SPEAKER_02]: But she's told that she stopped the possibility of attack from the lion.
16:45 --> 16:48 [SPEAKER_02]: She nullified the threat almost by taking out the lion.
16:48 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_02]: So therefore, she has come back as a hero to the society of Wakanda.
16:53 --> 17:00 [SPEAKER_02]: But interestingly, again, speaking to that idea that this is set up stuff for the future, there's dozens of items out here.
17:00 --> 17:10 [SPEAKER_02]: So any time in the future of the Black Panther movies that we hear of, I will come to an art of art, or we hear of vibranium being out in the world somewhere.
17:10 --> 17:11 [SPEAKER_02]: It could have been from here.
17:11 --> 17:19 [SPEAKER_02]: There was still kind of that question in Wakanda forever about how the Talicon race led by no more, how they got their hand on some vibranium.
17:19 --> 17:22 [SPEAKER_02]: And this could have come back to the time when the lion was at there.
17:22 --> 17:29 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, all of this, all of his vibranium artifacts went to the bottom of the ocean and in this big explosion, you know.
17:29 --> 17:31 [SPEAKER_02]: So there's a little tie there.
17:31 --> 17:34 [SPEAKER_02]: This is how some vibranium got out of the land of Wakanda into the world.
17:35 --> 17:38 [SPEAKER_02]: So there are other instances, of course, which will talk about it as a series goes on as well.
17:39 --> 17:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
17:39 --> 17:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
17:40 --> 17:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Any other notes on the episode?
17:41 --> 17:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Anything else you want to talk about about the episode, John?
17:43 --> 17:59 [SPEAKER_03]: I think the only note from me is that, you know, the war dogs, as described by a casher, you know, all this secretive network of spies were used to be called the Hatut Zerazi in Wakandan.
17:59 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_03]: So I kind of like that little bit of history of them and
18:05 --> 18:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I thought this was a nice sort of opener really, it was really solid.
18:12 --> 18:17 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think in terms of the four episode series, it bookends it quite nicely, actually.
18:17 --> 18:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a good way to start it, definitely.
18:20 --> 18:25 [SPEAKER_02]: One of the things I absolutely loved in the episode, the fight between Nani and the Lion,
18:26 --> 18:32 [SPEAKER_02]: is really good, it's really interesting and you know, they're using every trick that have available in animation as well.
18:32 --> 18:34 [SPEAKER_02]: It particularly love the fight on the hanging silks.
18:34 --> 18:42 [SPEAKER_02]: When the two of them are battling back and forth, going down levels on this city, on the ocean, they think it's really cool.
18:43 --> 18:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I do question though, why?
18:45 --> 18:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Why the lion, the car say why he sets that bomb, and effectively destroys everything that he's worked towards.
18:52 --> 18:53 [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't feel like he's just blowing up.
18:54 --> 19:16 [SPEAKER_02]: his own himself like his entire ship goes to the bottom of the ocean so it's kind of like everybody joined my society in the future you will all be free and what I'm gonna kill myself now and you're all coming with me you know I guess that's the whole thing right he does feel that the he is the leader of the society being treated as a god so if he's going down the people that follow will go down with him as well I guess so yeah I mean you could also
19:18 --> 19:46 [SPEAKER_03]: arguably given he flares were commander that I'm not going back there because I don't know what will become of me and it's I'm taking this way out rather than being humiliated imprisoned and you know and so that's actually quite a dark element so yeah I think on on Wakanda and that you know maybe hasn't really been explored it is generally from the movies it's been this utopia
19:47 --> 19:55 [SPEAKER_03]: But actually, if you disagree with that utopia, like similarly with utopia being presented here by the lion.
20:00 --> 20:06 [SPEAKER_03]: you know, it's up for challenge or it's it's not as it's not for you.
20:07 --> 20:09 [SPEAKER_03]: So it becomes a problem.
20:09 --> 20:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, absolutely.
20:10 --> 20:13 [SPEAKER_02]: And I guess that's where the idea the Kilmong was right.
20:13 --> 20:21 [SPEAKER_02]: That idea that him as a character, the son of the one of the princes of Wakanda that he is right this that Wakanda
20:23 --> 20:26 [SPEAKER_02]: has to change its ways, it doesn't, it doesn't suit everybody.
20:26 --> 20:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm going back there and I'm trying to take it over and change what it's doing.
20:31 --> 20:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Because of how he was treated and how his father were treated, you know, that that is one of those stories that's in the first Black Panther movie.
20:37 --> 20:42 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's a utopia as long as you go along with their exactly their ways.
20:42 --> 20:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
20:42 --> 20:43 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, great start.
20:44 --> 20:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Excellent start to the series overall.
20:45 --> 20:47 [SPEAKER_02]: John, do you defend this first episode?
20:47 --> 20:51 [SPEAKER_03]: I do, I do defend this episode of Eyes of Wakanda.
20:51 --> 20:54 [SPEAKER_03]: I'd give it four doggy treats and five.
20:54 --> 20:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Very good.
20:55 --> 20:56 [SPEAKER_03]: We're both wolf.
20:56 --> 20:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
20:56 --> 20:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just saw this was really solid.
20:59 --> 21:01 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a nice introduction.
21:01 --> 21:03 [SPEAKER_03]: I love the animation style.
21:03 --> 21:05 [SPEAKER_03]: There's some really great touches in here.
21:06 --> 21:16 [SPEAKER_03]: And let you say they are the fight sequences both between the line and nonny, but also the great fight sequences across all the ships between nonny and the lines.
21:17 --> 21:36 [SPEAKER_03]: and women and so that was really good and it just sets up an intriguing little anthology series really of exploring the the war docks and the retrieval of these artifacts like a good doggy fetch and bring back
21:37 --> 21:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Actually, Exodus would touch I did like in the Isabel calendar the first episode of both Nani and the Lion both Lusenai.
21:45 --> 21:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Nani loses her eye for an eye.
21:47 --> 21:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you see here in the later scenes with a ripatch and he loses an eye by her stepping in through the mask.
21:55 --> 21:57 [SPEAKER_02]: which is the art effect that she does recover.
21:58 --> 22:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Great stuff, yeah, absolutely defend the episode as well.
22:00 --> 22:03 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm really looking forward to chatting about the rest of the episodes too.
22:04 --> 22:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, me too.
22:05 --> 22:07 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it for our coverage of the first episode of Eyes of Wakanda.
22:07 --> 22:12 [SPEAKER_02]: We were releasing two episodes a week to cover all four episodes of Eyes of Wakanda.
22:12 --> 22:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Next up then is Episode Two of course, which is Legends and Lies.
22:16 --> 22:18 [SPEAKER_02]: We hope you'll join us for that one.
22:19 --> 22:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, thank you so much fellow Defenders, and of course, War Doggy is if you're around for joining us on our coverage of Eyes of Wakanda, until episode two.
22:31 --> 22:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Keep watching, keep listening, and of course, keep defending.
22:34 --> 22:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Bye.
22:35 --> 22:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Bye.
22:56 --> 22:56 [UNKNOWN]: you